Thread: league table without macros

You can at least rest assured that my no-macro version will input the scores
in the same way <G>

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> > I am not sure what layout you mean. Take a look at my VBA version,
> > http://www.xldynamic.com/source/xld.LeagueTable.html, and see if the
> > results
> > format is what you mean.
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> That's the exactly the perfect layout, Bob !! In fact it turns out I
> have been using this spreadsheet of yours and didn't even know it. I
> really like it - its just that I can't use it on the work pcs because
> they won't allow macros to run
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> Thanks again for the helpful responses - look forward to more news on
> the subject...
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BTW, I haven't received any email address for you yet.

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> > I am not sure what layout you mean. Take a look at my VBA version,
> > http://www.xldynamic.com/source/xld.LeagueTable.html, and see if the
> > results
> > format is what you mean.
>
> That's the exactly the perfect layout, Bob !! In fact it turns out I
> have been using this spreadsheet of yours and didn't even know it. I
> really like it - its just that I can't use it on the work pcs because
> they won't allow macros to run
>
> Thanks again for the helpful responses - look forward to more news on
> the subject...
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Thanks for pointing this out but I did pm my email details on 2 July and have re-forwarded them again just now (hope I'm doing it right?)

You can at least rest assured that my no-macro version will input the scores in the same way <G>

Great stuff ! Can't wait...

I still haven't got it, but I have just posted a first-cut at

http://www.xldynamic.com/example code/xld.league_table_sans_vba.xls

Give it a try and let me know how it goes. When we are happy, I will add it
to the main page, a VBA and a non-VBA version.

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> > You can at least rest assured that my no-macro version will input the
> > scores in the same way <G>
>
> Great stuff ! Can't wait...
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Originally Posted by gdh82

And could I ask, daddylonglegs - how do I look at the hidden table in your spreadsheet ? I'd like to try and understand it better but can't find it ???

Hi gdh,

it's not actually hidden (although it can be) - its just a few columns over to the right on the table worksheet, just scroll across until you find it...

I still haven't got it, but I have just posted a first-cut at

http://www.xldynamic.com/example code/xld.league_table_sans_vba.xls

Fantastic - its works a dream on the pcs at work (that is soo good to see!) I've got a couple of thoughts of possible tweaks, if I may. The main one is to ask if its possible to includea separate worksheet containing the teamlist (akin to daddylonglegs' table) so the user can easily add/delete/rename teams? Many thanks again. Garry

I'll take a look at that. It's a good idea to manage the teams, better than
my suggestion.

What are the others?

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> > I still haven't got it, but I have just posted a first-cut at
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> > http://www.xldynamic.com/example code/xld.league_table_sans_vba.xls
>
> Fantastic - its works a dream on the pcs at work (that is soo good to
> see!) I've got a couple of thoughts of possible tweaks, if I may.
> The main one is to ask if its possible to includea separate worksheet
> containing the teamlist (akin to daddylonglegs' table) so the user can
> easily add/delete/rename teams? Many thanks again. Garry
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Originally Posted by gdh82

Sorry about that (v. embarassing!)

As for the hidden table, I'm impressed by how consise it is (so much less convoluted than the world cup spreadsheets I've seen). There's a number of functions that I haven't used before so I'll need to look them up to help me understand it (!) but for now could I ask what the adg score represents ? Thanks again.

Hi gdh, I'm sure Bob can produce something rather superior to mine but to answer your question....

"Adg score" should really be "adj score" meaning "adjusted score". Basically the number of points is adjusted by a very small amount based on goal difference or goals scored which ensures that when there is a tie on points the team with the best goal difference has a slightly higher "adj score" and is therefore ranked higher.

Similarly if both points and goal difference are equal then the team with the most goals scored will have a slightly higher "adj score" ensuring, again, that the correct team is ranked higher.

I use a points, goal difference, goals scored, row algorithm to ensure
unique ranking in mine.

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> > Sorry about that (v. embarassing!)
> >
> > As for the hidden table, I'm impressed by how consise it is (so much
> > less convoluted than the world cup spreadsheets I've seen). There's a
> > number of functions that I haven't used before so I'll need to look
> > them up to help me understand it (!) but for now could I ask what the
> > adg score represents ? Thanks again.
>
> Hi gdh, I'm sure Bob can produce something rather superior to mine but
> to answer your question....
>
> "Adg score" should really be "adj score" meaning "adjusted score".
> Basically the number of points is adjusted by a very small amount based
> on goal difference or goals scored which ensures that when there is a
> tie on points the team with the best goal difference has a slightly
> higher "adj score" and is therefore ranked higher.
>
> Similarly if both points and goal difference are equal then the team
> with the most goals scored will have a slightly higher "adj score"
> ensuring, again, that the correct team is ranked higher.
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"Adg score" should really be "adj score" meaning "adjusted score". Basically the number of points is adjusted by a very small amount based on goal difference or goals scored which ensures that when there is a tie on points the team with the best goal difference has a slightly higher "adj score" and is therefore ranked higher.

Thanks for explaining that, daddylonglegs. IMO that's a really original way around the problem - I would never have thought of approaching it like that in a million years! My eyes are being opened...

Originally Posted by Bob Phillips

I'll take a look at that. It's a good idea to manage the teams, better than my suggestion.

What are the others?

My only other suggestions concern the layout of the table so I guess this is only my particular preferences and others may disagree.

For my purposes I've been using your league table for about 6-10 players which reduces the size of the fixture grid considerably so I'd like to have the table on the same page as the fixtures. Ideally this need only be the 'overall & pts' columns of the table. This is simply a practical issue when printing off a hardcopy for the office noticeboard.

I also think the table would look better if it could have alternating shaded backgrounds for each of rows - just to guide the eye.

The table worksheet has the default orientation as portrait rather than landscape, by the way.

Finally I did tend to find that with the macro version of the spreadsheet I'd get run-time errors occasionally after added/deleting teams and once the errors had started I generally would have to resort to an earlier version of the spreadsheet. I guess, though, this won't be an issue with the non-macro version?

Hope I'm not sounding too picky - just take this as constructive feedback - as I'm already very impressed with your excellent spreadsheet and am grateful of your willingness to help. Garry

Garry,

What I could do is to put the table and the results on the same page, in
separate windows, and the user could then close the second window if they
didn't want it, or it is a small table. The teams table would be separate
though still.

The line shading should be easy with CF, and I will set to landscape.

As for the VBA version, you don't know the sequence of events that caused by
any chance, I would like to fix it.

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> > I'll take a look at that. It's a good idea to manage the teams, better
> > than my suggestion.
> >
> > What are the others?
> >
>
> My only other suggestions concern the layout of the table so I guess
> this is only my particular preferences and others may disagree.
>
> For my purposes I've been using your league table for about 6-10
> players which reduces the size of the fixture grid considerably so I'd
> like to have the table on the same page as the fixtures. Ideally this
> need only be the 'overall & pts' columns of the table. This is simply
> a practical issue when printing off a hardcopy for the office
> noticeboard.
>
> I also think the table would look better if it could have alternating
> shaded backgrounds for each of rows - just to guide the eye.
>
> The table worksheet has the default orientation as portrait rather than
> landscape, by the way.
>
> Finally I did tend to find that with the macro version of the
> spreadsheet I'd get run-time errors occasionally after added/deleting
> teams and once the errors had started I generally would have to resort
> to an earlier version of the spreadsheet. I guess, though, this won't
> be an issue with the non-macro version?
>
> Hope I'm not sounding too picky - just take this as constructive
> feedback - as I'm already very impressed with your excellent
> spreadsheet and am grateful of your willingness to help. Garry
>
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Originally Posted by Bob Phillips

What I could do is to put the table and the results on the same page, in
separate windows, and the user could then close the second window if they
didn't want it, or it is a small table. The teams table would be separate
though still.

As for the VBA version, you don't know the sequence of events that caused by
any chance, I would like to fix it.

Thanks again or the further post, Bob. Sounds good to me- would it possible to print the two separate windows as one page of hardcopy ?

As a very basic workaround on the VBA version I'd simply added a few '=' operators to the right of the fixture grid that linked to the relevant cells in the table worksheet. This then gave me the table on the same worksheet as the fixture grid.

I'm afraid I don't know the exact sequence but I think it was a combination of adding the table to the fixture worksheet and adding/deleting teams that caused the run-time errors. Perhaps I was putting the table in a place where the fixtures overlapped ? Sorry I can't be more sure than that.

Cheers
Garry

Hi Bob,

I know its only been a week since the last post and its really brilliant that you're looking into this at all, but I just wanted to follow this up and ask how the spreadsheet was going?

Hope I didn't sound too pedantic about the layout issues as really they are secondary. The only key thing (I think) that needs to be added to the non-macro version is a tab that can used to add/delete teams.

Look forward to your next post on the subject.
Thanks again
Garry