Feedback : New design for the Board

[NBVC]

for anyone interesred current estimated site worth
www.excelforum.com $871,544.00
www.ozgrid.com $650,749.00
www.mrexcel.com $614.906.00
www.andypope.info $77,735.00
www.contextures.com $96,252.00
www.dailydoseofexcel.com $81.703.00
excelusergroup.org $53,627.00
www.exceltip.com $799,661.00
www.thecodecage.com $156,813.00
www.excel-it.com $19,571.00

Where do you get that data?

[martindwilson]

in my day job i make money estimating domains and seeing if they are worth buying/investing in.
i made my first million in 2006 and now am looking to retire. i have some dedicated staff who do nothing but analyse revenue streams ,hits per site ect then we get some ads in there asap and sit back and watch the money come in.
then i woke up
nope i just googled a website worth calculator
but having just run ccleaner i cant remember or find which one!
but i just did another one and the values are different e.g. in
http://www.how-much-is-my-website-worth.info/
excelforum is
$444,119

[royUK]

I think the values differ completely depending on the web site used

[NBVC]

Makes you wonder where/how they get the numbers and who is most accurate...

[darkyam]

I think they just use Excel. =Randbetween(1,100000000)

[Vaibhav]

Vai, just to reiterate Teylyn's earlier points - the below is an essential fix:

-- Excel Version per Profile must be shown in the Post Header
(I would have bolded Profile but on my browser ...)

Done

Deprecating one of the profoundly useful pieces of info. hardly seems logical.

-- Forum Statistics

What purpose does this serve other than to take up a significant portion of the screen width ?

Dev Team is Working on this section..

Is it not possible to place # button, which adds code tages, in quick reply field?

Dev team is working on this function...

[shg]

Could we get the font size in code boxes back where it was, please?

[martindwilson]

harsh words D_Rennie.
things are changing

[martindwilson]

@ Vaibhav
nice one mate
things are getting better

[D_Rennie]

i did mean to was good to see the changes being made in a good way

[teylyn]

Could we get the font size in code boxes back where it was, please?

and also back to a monospace font like Courier New or Lucida Console.
Code in proportional font is hard to read.

[shg]

Amen to that; the font was so small I hadn't noticed it was proportional.

[teylyn]

well, it wasn't proportional yesterday. At least not always and not in all browsers and not even in all code boxes in one thread when using IE7.

[Vaibhav]

After the Board design and Dev related posts here are my answers to the other issues which have come up :

All, I guess VAi means me as he has wiped my signature. To Vai the comments wern't sarcastic they were designed to prompt you in to action, if thats a threat go ahead and ban me, it actually shows the level with which you are currently treating your members, you forget where this board came from and how it grew....yes painful as it sounds it was growing without you, if you truly want this board to be the biggest then listen, evaluate, feedback and act promptly.

Simon, The rule is a general rule and it applies to Every one who is a member of the forum. May be that it is just a co-incidence that you got hit because i saw your "old" sig which was against the new rule and it had to be taken off.

Also i have a lot of respect for you because of the way you have helped the this board to grow, why will i want to ban you ? May be you have taken it personal but honestly it was not meant to be personal at all.

Vai,


"Some people" are very well respected by the longer serving members of this Forum & Simon (for one) has never* aggressively promoted his forum over ExcelForum as can be seen in the wording of his previous signature ("in the unlikely event..."). I disagree with a dictorial approach to this new rule but I can understand its legimitacy to prevent spam. So, if this new rule (number 13) is to be enforced I hope it is done consistently across all members AND that the change is clearly communicated to all existing users. I say, "clearly communicated" because it took me too long to find the Rules. Many users will not go looking for Rules & the below 3 clicks definitely involved looking.
click 1) FAQ link
click 2) Where are the Rules link
click 3) Rules are here link

If my memory serves me correctly, I could always get to the Rules directly from the header on every page before the recent format changes. Can this please be changed back to have the Rules link re-displayed in the headers?

*"never" may be too strong a word, but I haven't seen him do so, and I've been a member since 2006, a guest before that & have read a lot more posts than I have made.

I respect your aim to make the Forum the biggest in the world but suggest you read the below link which discusses some users opinions on the "downfall" of another excel forum:http://www.excelforum.com/the-water-...18-ozgrid.html

Yours sincerely
Rob

Rob, Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate every bit of it. I respect every member of the board but if we have to apply rules which are for the benefit of the board some members might get offended but i am sure its going to be good for the long run.
And i will get the rules button added to the top menu bar of the board.

To me this just seems extremely petty. You seem to recognise that it's the members that will make this forum a good one but if you alienate your senior/experienced members by starting to implement stupid rules it will soon go downhill.

Do you expect people to stop referencing threads in other forums in their answers in case someone might stumble across a competitor and think it might have something to offer?

The main reason I joined here is because it was a bit bored of just hanging around what is without a doubt the best Excel forum going (Can you guess which one?). I don't have as much to offer as Simon but am already starting to feel the politics here are putting me off stopping around much longer.

I hope things improve.

Dom

PS Implementing major changes, asking for feedback and then disappearing off the radar for days isn't the best idea IMHO

Domsi, With due respect can i ask why does this rule look stupid ? Will you allow banner of your competitor inside your shop ?
Secondly i did not say no to cross referencing, and the rule only applies to the signatures which are generic.

Also I already apologized for the absence but work was still on behind the scenes. I own an IM company with 75 people and offices in 3 countries, and believe me life can get so busy at times that you really cant help it but still at 7 am in the night or rather morning after being up whole night i am replying to the feedback so i guess you should give me the benefit of doubt please for the last time

hi all

Vai,
I apologise if you consider my (& other posts) as rants and wish you all the best for working on the changes. We do care too & that's why we are still here & speaking up.
GOOD LUCK :-)



Here's some further clarification of why I disagree:
I'm here (or at other sites) to help people. To help people get solutions to their specific problems AND more importantly to help people learn so they in turn become helpers (extrapolate my signature). With that in mind, I'll continue to provide links as I see fit, until informed otherwise through clear communication.


No need to say anything, I'm trying to remain as objective as possible but had to voice my feelings. I will now go back to work having broken my personal rule of never posting during work time (unless asking for a solution) for the first time ever!



Yours sincerely
Rob

First of all Rob, no apologies please, its a free world and every one is free to give their opinions.
Any links as long as they are not to a competitor forum/community should be fine, will continue the discussion in the mods forum on this.

where's that exactly,i cant see it
and as for rule#13
competitor? when did this become a competition? and if it is ,competing for what?

Will discus it at length @ mods forum.

Re: "downfall"

See attached picture of the Alexa statistics. Excelforum is the blue line. The "fallen" forum is the red line. So much for "dead". But in order to keep these kinds of statistics with hardly any active members, the forum must have been pretty darn busy in its heyday.

Busier than Excelforum.

So, Vai, with your goal in mind, it would be interesting to see what your strategy is.

Teylyn, nice to see the alexa graph comparison between the two sites but i think you missed this http://yfrog.com/0fpicture3kgp
Look at the speed by which excelforum is growing... almost going to be an Exponential graph
Now make a guess who is gonna be at the top if things are done right ?

Out of curiosity, how do you define 'BIGGEST'? Number of users, number of posts, other?

Also, surely the aim should be to be the best, rather than biggest?

Biggest in terms of number of active users and number of total users visiting the board.

Biggest or Best ? I ll prefer both, Infact its going to be difficult to be biggest if we are not the best .

'BIGGEST' - requires most screen space to see useful information :P

This is very debatable, look at the homepage of yahoo.com, but again on excelforum we will make sure that the final decision is of the members of the forum.

Vai,

Read back some of the posts in the Moderator Forums when Simon was our Administrator... You will see that he was a man of action and of his word. We never had to remind him constantly of changes requested or promises made. When we asked for something he always made it a point of obliging right away. That is what kept us fueled to want to make this the site what it is today. He is the one that "created" the great site that it is now. When I first came on board here.. it was not as fast paced as it had become once Simon took over administrating, it was also not as organised... a bunch of us became moderators under his watch and he has made us "love" this site. I am sure if you look back at the stats you will see where the line shoots upwards at a faster rate... you should see it was while under his administration. Ever since he left that role, we have been asking for improvements and nothing had been done to our satisfaction (especially reorganization of the forum index). Many of us felt frustrated and were tempted to leave. I know may stay here is solely for the love of Excel and the friendship I have accumulated here with other users. The other successful boards don't have the same feeling of respect and friendship as this one does (at least not that I sense).... but surely, you would understand that we are all here for one goal and that is to make it a site not to be ignored.

NBVC, I know how motivatedly simon helped in growth of this board along with you and all the other members of the board and i don't want to take any credit away from all the hard work he and every one else has put into this board.
Excel forum belongs to ALL the people who are a member of the forum, all those who come here on a daily basis and enjoy saying here. I am just trying to make every ones journey easy and take work towards my Vision.

[NBVC]

Vai,
Thank you for the feedback... I hope you do understand that these changes have been a long-time coming and you could understand the frustration in all of us, when promises are made and are then abandoned without reason.... I hope that this time we can be made proud to be members of this board.


Are you able to address what is going to be happening with the Forum Index and any restructuring?