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    Feedback : New design for the Board

    Okay Friends,
    After months of delay, We finally have the new design live for ExcelForum

    I will like to have every ones feedback about the design and anything you think will make it look better can still be incorporated.

    Thanks
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    Last edited by Vaibhav; 02-23-2010 at 04:21 AM.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    quoting zbor from this post http://www.excelforum.com/exceltip-c...me-banner.html

    How to remove Welcome to our forums...

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    I know new members should have tips but what about us (a little older )

    - This ain't my first visit
    - I've check FAQ
    - I am registered
    - and it takes half of my monitor
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    I would also suggest a darker font or background for Forum Rules:

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    "Relax. What is mind? No matter. What is matter? Never mind!"

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Vai!

    Some first impressions off the top of my head:

    - it's great that there are no advertisements. Hopefully it can stay this way

    - I definitely like the Edit/Quote/Multiquote buttons at the bottom of a post. They look fresh and clean.

    - I agree with zbor that the title section with the "Welcome to the forum" takes way too much space but does not add value for anyone but a first time visitor

    - the old style icons now look quite dated. Especially the balance scales icon in the title bar of the post is hard to see and recognise for what it is, and the icons for the editor look positively DOS 3.0. PM me if you need suggestions for alternatives.

    - links in signatures now appear grey, and are no longer recognizable as links unless manually formatted. Maybe there could be some clever CSS workaround?

    - links in posts (see my previous post where I link to zbor's thread) are only recognisable as links when you hover over them, then they change to green. A permanent color or underline would be more obvious.

    - I like the forum statistics on the left and hope that the information displayed there will soon be accurate.

    - the button for closed threads is not as obvious as the previous version was. Maybe something more powerful might be in order.

    - the regulars here have become used to the grey background of the old version, and now the bright white background seems to be too stark a contrast. But I think that we'll get used to that fairly quickly and that the b/w contrast is actually better than the grey background of old. Don't we all like Google for the clean white background?!

    I'm sure more things will surface as we all get used to the new look and feel and I'm glad to hear that you are happy to implement changes.
    Last edited by teylyn; 01-12-2010 at 07:10 AM.
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    I would also like to add one (less important) thing...

    Instead of old style icon to write new! for new threads:

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    Will it be fine if this is only shown to the unregistered users ?

    Quote Originally Posted by zbor View Post
    I would also suggest a darker font or background for Forum Rules:

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    Done !!

    Design team is working on new Icons as well...

    Please keep the feedback coming ...

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaibhav View Post
    Will it be fine if this is only shown to the unregistered users ?
    How about less than 10 posts? IF that's option avilable...
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    - Also I had problem finding Edit options for username until contamined pointed me at Quick links...

    I think should be available someowhere when you click on your own name too
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    just noticed that if the navigation bar is forced onto two lines because of smaller screen size or resizing the window, the last few items roll over into a new line but lose the blue background ....
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    You need to check the css in both IE and Firefox. Wrapping, formatting and resizing is different.

    Also what size screen are you aiming at. I have a 22" monitor @1680 and I have to have the browser at least 2/3rds screen width.

    Do you really need to login places on the main screen?

    Unable to read "Welcome Guests" when you use yellow text on white/faint gray background.
    Same for white text that wraps onto pale background.
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Why when registered and signed in does the register option appear in the blue menu bar at the top?

    Why the mixture of drop down menus?
    Compare 'Excel Tips' to 'Community'

    "Latest Posts" and "Forum Statistics" should be moved from left hand side to right or bottom. Currently a great chunk of screen space is wasted for little useful information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    Vai!

    Some first impressions off the top of my head:

    - it's great that there are no advertisements. Hopefully it can stay this way

    I Wish it could remain ad free but sadly we will have to put some ads to keep things moving fine but as i said before we will try and make sure that user experience is not hampered.

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    - I definitely like the Edit/Quote/Multiquote buttons at the bottom of a post. They look fresh and clean.

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    - I agree with zbor that the title section with the "Welcome to the forum" takes way too much space but does not add value for anyone but a first time visitor

    Already being worked upon, for the time being we are removing it for the registered users and then later on will try and have it only for the users who have 10 or less posts or unregistered users.

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    - the old style icons now look quite dated. Especially the balance scales icon in the title bar of the post is hard to see and recognise for what it is, and the icons for the editor look positively DOS 3.0. PM me if you need suggestions for alternatives.

    We are getting new icons done but might take a couple of days for them to completely go live..

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    - links in signatures now appear grey, and are no longer recognizable as links unless manually formatted. Maybe there could be some clever CSS workaround?

    Will surely have a workaround for this implemented asap. Will blue be okay ?

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    - links in posts (see my previous post where I link to zbor's thread) are only recognisable as links when you hover over them, then they change to green. A permanent color or underline would be more obvious.
    [QUOTE=teylyn;2231086]

    Will get this corrected as well

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    - I like the forum statistics on the left and hope that the information displayed there will soon be accurate.

    Corrected

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    - the button for closed threads is not as obvious as the previous version was. Maybe something more powerful might be in order.

    Can you please point me to this button ?

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    - the regulars here have become used to the grey background of the old version, and now the bright white background seems to be too stark a contrast. But I think that we'll get used to that fairly quickly and that the b/w contrast is actually better than the grey background of old. Don't we all like Google for the clean white background?!

    Yes i do agree with your words here but we are still open to all suggestions.

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    I'm sure more things will surface as we all get used to the new look and feel and I'm glad to hear that you are happy to implement changes.
    Quote Originally Posted by zbor View Post
    I would also like to add one (less important) thing...

    Instead of old style icon to write new! for new threads:

    Attachment 62318
    Already being worked upon ..
    Quote Originally Posted by zbor View Post
    How about less than 10 posts? IF that's option avilable...

    Should not be difficult but for now we are just removing them for registered users and working on other changes simultaneously

    Quote Originally Posted by zbor View Post
    - Also I had problem finding Edit options for username until contamined pointed me at Quick links...

    I think should be available someowhere when you click on your own name too
    Can you please point me to it ?

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    just noticed that if the navigation bar is forced onto two lines because of smaller screen size or resizing the window, the last few items roll over into a new line but lose the blue background ....
    Can you please take a screen shot for this ? What is the resolution of your screen ?

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Andy,
    Why the mixture of drop down menus?
    Compare 'Excel Tips' to 'Community'
    I think this is due to "Excel Tips" being a custom menu and "Community" being a standard configurable Vbulletin item. Would be great if the same behaviour and look could be applied to both, i.e.

    - hover: either pop up all expandable menus or don't pop up any
    - coloring - be consistend with drop down menu colors
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

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    - the button for closed threads is not as obvious as the previous version was. Maybe something more powerful might be in order.

    Can you please point me to this button ?
    see here for example. At the top of the thread, where other posts say "New Post", this one says "Closed", but it does not "stick out" enough

    http://www.excelforum.com/excel-prog...tachments.html

    Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    just noticed that if the navigation bar is forced onto two lines because of smaller screen size or resizing the window, the last few items roll over into a new line but lose the blue background ....
    Can you please take a screen shot for this ? What is the resolution of your screen ?
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    My screen resolution does not matter. What matters is that if the nav bar does not fit into the screen width (either because of lower screen rez or sized window) the navbar breaks up into two lines and the second line is not rendered consistently with the first. See attachment.
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    I agree with teylyn on consistence.

    About pop-up I don't know is it just me.. but I always had problems with it (new and old forum).

    It's just don't open and always I have that bar upthere wich I can't get rid off.
    Whenever open messages or inserting link.
    And I use other vBulletin forum where I don't have this problem.

    Just a reminder how it was

    http://www.newhostgatorcoupon.com/im...etin-forum.png

    I like it with 2 bacground colors (divided by columns, as at link) than just one (as it now)... But it's just my opinion.. Not an issue...
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