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    Excel Tables

    Been meaning to pose this for a while. What's the general view of Tables?

    I know they offer advantages, like when adding data to the bottom of a table the new data is automatically incorporated in the table, and adding a formula replicates itself elsewhere in the column, but I don't find formula outside the table which refer to stuff inside it particularly easy to read, and when writing macros it just seems unnecessarily painful.

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    Re: Excel Tables

    I quite like them, especially in VBA. They do have their quirks, but it's useful to be able to refer to specific columns by name and quickly grab chunks of the table. I don't really do a lot in the way of data entry so that side of it is irrelevant to me, but I like them as a source for pivot tables and of course they are integral to using power BI.
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    Re: Excel Tables

    The dynamic properties are great.

    The structured referencing formula syntax sucks!
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    Re: Excel Tables

    Nice and easy to deal with, but seem to really hammer performance when dealing with large volumes of data.
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    Re: Excel Tables

    The structured referencing formula syntax sucks!
    Agree with that, the main reason I refrain from using tables
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    Re: Excel Tables

    I quite like them and would generally use them where I can in preference to manually setting up a Dynamic Named Range or two.

    That said, If you have long names for column headers, the length of the formula can be obscene ... especially if you need absolute references when dragging the formula across. And using them in Data Validation and Charts is unnecessarily difficult.

    And, probably most significantly, if you protect the sheet, the Table magically loses the capability to automatically extend itself and incorporate new rows.

    Great idea, not thought through and badly implemented. Shame

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    Re: Excel Tables

    I usually change everything into worksheet arrays, I haven't actually dealt with tables
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    Re: Excel Tables

    I also find the structured a pain to deal with and often convert them back to a regular table when answering questions. I know they have their place and can be useful, but like everything...there is a time and a place. Bottom like, I dont like them
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    Re: Excel Tables

    Another draw back in using the Table References in formula is that it is not working with the closed workbooks like the range references


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    Re: Excel Tables

    You can turn the structured referencing off, you know.

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    Re: Excel Tables

    no I didnt??

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    You can turn the structured referencing off, you know.

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    Re: Excel Tables

    Are you referring to the Excel Option for formulas "Use Table Names In Formulas"? I manually overwrite the table nomenclature when "it gets in the way".

    You can turn the structured referencing off, you know.
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    Re: Excel Tables

    ndm, I have often done that too - manually typed in ranges that make more sense to me

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    Re: Excel Tables

    Quote Originally Posted by FDibbins View Post
    ndm, I have often done that too - manually typed in ranges that make more sense to me
    That is especially good when column headers are long and you want absolute references....man, they can sure get long using Table Nomenclature

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    Re: Excel Tables

    yup, you got that right, sometinmes to te point of almost being jibberish lol

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    Re: Excel Tables

    I've had pretty good luck just ignoring them and programming as usual!

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    Re: Excel Tables

    I like them and encourage people at work to use them and the structured referencing as much as possible. Makes it easier to see where they are going wrong with their formula.
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    Re: Excel Tables

    Just for anecdotal value:

    Recently in Redmond, Washington, during the Global MVP Summit. A room packed with Excel MVPs. Everybody is asked to introduce themselves by stating their name and their favourite Excel feature. Over half of the Excel MVPs say it's tables.

    Zack Baresse and Kevin Jones have written a book about it. Some stuff can be seen on the companion web site www.exceltables.com

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