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    Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Hi beautiful people,
    As you can see following link, a pivot table capacity for value fields is 256.
    https://support.office.com/en-za/art...7-269d656771c3

    I want to make a pivot table for 1 year (365 days) but I dont because of 256 limitation.

    If I am not able to make a pivot table for 1 year (365 days) then Pivot Table is rubbish...

    Any idea about that?

    Note1:
    As far as I understand Power Pivot Add-In has also 256 limitations...
    So Power Pivot Add-In is also rubbish...
    https://support.office.com/en-ca/art...7-40896795d045

    Note2:
    I am wondering if I can use vba with Power Pivot Add-In?
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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Why not give Power Pivot a try?

    https://support.office.com/en-ca/art...7-40896795d045

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    You can, it sounds like your source data isn't set up correctly. Post a sample workbook

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle123 View Post
    You can, it sounds like your source data isn't set up correctly. Post a sample workbook
    Hi Kyle,
    I am posting a sample workbook.
    Thanks in advance.
    Attached Files Attached Files

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Your data isn't suitable for a pivot table. You've created what's typically referred to as a cross tab report.

    For data to be pivotable, it needs to be in the same layout as a database table, so you don't add columns to data, you add rows. Your table only needs 6 Columns and needs to be laid out as follows:
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    You then only need 6 Value fields, rather than one for everyday.

    I've attached a workbook with your data as an example
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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Hi Kyle,
    Thanks for your advice.
    But it is not possible to change our data as you explained.
    So, do you have another opinion or power pivot idea?
    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    No, you can't use Pivot Tables/Power Pivot because your data is laid out poorly.

    Maybe you could use SumIfs to get what you're after?

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle123 View Post
    Maybe you could use SumIfs to get what you're after?
    Sorry, my English is not perfect. What do you mean with this?

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Quote Originally Posted by HerryMarkowitz View Post
    Hi Kyle,
    Thanks for your advice.
    But it is not possible to change our data as you explained.
    So, do you have another opinion or power pivot idea?
    Thanks in advance.
    Where are you getting your data from? Are you manually capturing it or is it from some back office system.
    Many systems allow output in different layouts. Have you checked to see you can't get a row by row daily record of your four basic fileds rather than a column by column daily record.
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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Buttrey View Post
    Where are you getting your data from? Are you manually capturing it or is it from some back office system.
    Many systems allow output in different layouts. Have you checked to see you can't get a row by row daily record of your four basic fileds rather than a column by column daily record.
    We dont get that data from database...
    It is manually capturing data...

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Quote Originally Posted by HerryMarkowitz View Post
    We dont get that data from database...
    It is manually capturing data...
    In that case the answer is simple and in your own hands.
    So capture it as Kyle suggested earlier. Don't make life difficult for yourself with a non standard layout.

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    What Richard said ^^ though to be honest - I can't actually see what value you're getting from the pivot table. Is it the grouping? If so, have a look at the Row grouping in Excel

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle123 View Post
    What Richard said ^^ though to be honest - I can't actually see what value you're getting from the pivot table. Is it the grouping? If so, have a look at the Row grouping in Excel
    Yes, it is grouping actually but I need good viewed presentation with pivot table coloured properties

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Then have a look at row grouping and format your data as a table. That's about the best you're going to get with your choice of layout

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle123 View Post
    Then have a look at row grouping and format your data as a table. That's about the best you're going to get with your choice of layout
    But thats need also to get subtotal every group...
    So, needs sorting etc.
    This is not easy job

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Then you should have chosen a better layout for your data

    If you have a search for "cross tab" to line items or Pivot data you'll find a lot of code that will format your data on a separate sheet properly (cross tab is the general term for the type of layout you have)

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle123 View Post
    Then you should have chosen a better layout for your data

    If you have a search for "cross tab" to line items or Pivot data you'll find a lot of code that will format your data on a separate sheet properly (cross tab is the general term for the type of layout you have)
    Hi Kyle,
    I found some code in the internet but all of them very complicated for me.
    So, I need a simple way...
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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Hi Kyle,
    I found very good video regarding this issue.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=157&v=pUXJLzqlEPk
    As you can see in that video, you can convert cross table to flatten list using pivot table wizard.(There is no need vba code)

    But I need your support here because my cross table includes 4 rows headings not 1 as in the video explained.
    Please check following picture.
    http://i.cubeupload.com/Qm3npC.png

    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Do what they've done - just with one column, then insert 3 blank columns and use VLookup to populate them - you can then pivot the result

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle123 View Post
    Do what they've done - just with one column, then insert 3 blank columns and use VLookup to populate them - you can then pivot the result
    Vlookup doesnt work because vlookup brings first found value...

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    So move the columns around...

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle123 View Post
    So move the columns around...
    If I cut three colums and paste to near to last column then that three colums will be middle data not row headings?

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Come on, use a bit of grey matter, they'll be at the end, just don't include them in your consolidation range. VLookup them in after you have properly formatted data

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Yes, you are right Yep, solved...
    Although I prefer without using vlookup...to make simple...

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Well it's tough, you're going to have to

    And VLookup is simple!

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle123 View Post
    And VLookup is simple!
    You know what flatten table rows count is 44000.
    That means I must wait a long time to complete vlookup action.
    And I must do this for 3 columns.
    So, I dont agree with you that vlookup is the good way

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    There isn't a better way - you do it once and then copy and paste values - you've spent longer looking for an alternative!

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle123 View Post
    There isn't a better way - you do it once and then copy and paste values - you've spent longer looking for an alternative!
    As alternative way I found a code from here...
    http://nhsexcel.com/excel-pivot-tabl...tab-flat-list/
    But I think when I integrated that code to my file it also take a long time to complete because of for next loop...

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    That's a terrible way in comparison - use vlookup, much faster ;P

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Of course we can use fast vlookup for this
    https://fastexcel.wordpress.com/2012...han-1-vlookup/

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    Try this....

    Begin creating the Pivot and drop the dates in rows and names in Col... hoping this worked fine.
    then insert a pivot chart on it by going to Analyze/ Pivot Chart
    then select chart/ goto Design/ Select Data/ Switch row/column
    this will give you the pivot format you were looking for with grouped dates
    now you can delete the chart and have your pivot.

    let me know if it worked??

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    Re: Pivot Table is rubbish because of 256 limitation?

    navniit, perhaps you missed that this thread is almost 5 years old?
    (dont worry, I have done the same thing myself, before)
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