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XY Chart Improvements For Scientific Data

  1. #1
    Phil Preen
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    XY Chart Improvements For Scientific Data

    Excel seems to have been primarily designed for accountants but it is also
    useful for handling scientific results. Unfortunately the graphing side is
    missing a number of important features. It would be useful to know, whether
    any of these features are going to be included in the next release of Office.
    Is there a feature list available yet?

    1) Point and Click Scaling
    It is a real pain having to go and type numbers in to change the scale
    limits. Often you just want to zoom in on an area. There are several ways
    this could be done, either a simple point and click to zoom in; or allow user
    to define a rectangular area by dragging out a rectangle with the mouse; or
    by placing two cursors on an axis to redefine the end points.
    Also when you change the scale on the x-axis, it would be extremely useful
    to have an option to autoscale the y-axes, ignoring the data where the x
    value is outside the new limits.

    2) 3rd and 4th axes
    Often you have more than two quantities that you want to display on one XY
    chart against the same x-axis. Why does Excel limit the number of y axes to
    2? There is enough room for 4 axes by using both sides of each axis line for
    the axes labels. Alternatively there is no reason why further y axes couldn't
    be added at any arbitrary point on the x-axis, they don't have to be at the
    ends.
    It would also be nice if the axis colour could optionally be linked to the
    series colour (obviously this would only work if the colour for every series
    on the axis was the same).

    3) Scaling of Date/Time Axis
    When you have an axis displaying data formatted as a date or time, and you
    choose to alter the scale limits, the values are displayed as a decimal
    number rather than in the correct format. You can actually type in a
    date/time value, but it is not obvious that you can do this. (same applies to
    scientific format data).
    Note also that the auto-scaling for the minimum value in logarithmic mode
    doesn't work (it always sets it to 1, this is probably just a bug or lazy
    programming).

    4) Units conversion
    I know you can do this with formulae and calculating new columns, but it
    would be very nice to have a built in system for specifying what units values
    were stored in. It would then be possible to have an option on a chart to
    change the units, e.g. from miles per hour to meters per second or days to
    minutes, etc...

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  2. #2
    Ed Ferrero
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    Re: XY Chart Improvements For Scientific Data

    Hi Phil,

    A number of people have written workarounds for your issues. See below.

    > Excel seems to have been primarily designed for accountants but it is also
    > useful for handling scientific results. Unfortunately the graphing side is
    > missing a number of important features. It would be useful to know,
    > whether
    > any of these features are going to be included in the next release of
    > Office.
    > Is there a feature list available yet?
    >
    > 1) Point and Click Scaling
    > It is a real pain having to go and type numbers in to change the scale
    > limits. Often you just want to zoom in on an area. There are several ways
    > this could be done, either a simple point and click to zoom in; or allow
    > user
    > to define a rectangular area by dragging out a rectangle with the mouse;
    > or
    > by placing two cursors on an axis to redefine the end points.
    > Also when you change the scale on the x-axis, it would be extremely useful
    > to have an option to autoscale the y-axes, ignoring the data where the x
    > value is outside the new limits.


    Check out Zoom Charts at http://edferrero.m6.net/charting.aspx

    > 2) 3rd and 4th axes
    > Often you have more than two quantities that you want to display on one XY
    > chart against the same x-axis. Why does Excel limit the number of y axes
    > to
    > 2? There is enough room for 4 axes by using both sides of each axis line
    > for
    > the axes labels. Alternatively there is no reason why further y axes
    > couldn't
    > be added at any arbitrary point on the x-axis, they don't have to be at
    > the
    > ends.
    > It would also be nice if the axis colour could optionally be linked to the
    > series colour (obviously this would only work if the colour for every
    > series
    > on the axis was the same).


    See Jon Peltier's Tertiary Y-Axis at
    http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/TertiaryAxis.html


    Ed Ferrero
    http://edferrero.m6.net/



  3. #3
    Phil Preen
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    Re: XY Chart Improvements For Scientific Data

    >
    > A number of people have written workarounds for your issues. See below.


    Which just goes to prove that these things are needed. I was dissapointed
    when these long overdue features weren't included in Office 2003. Can anyone
    from Microsoft comment on whether these issues will be addressed in Office
    2005?

    > Check out Zoom Charts at http://edferrero.m6.net/charting.aspx
    > See Jon Peltier's Tertiary Y-Axis at
    > http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/TertiaryAxis.html
    >

    Thanks for the links, I shall check them out.

    Phil.

  4. #4
    Jon Peltier
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    Re: XY Chart Improvements For Scientific Data

    If Microsoft introduced such features, it would put developers like Ed and me out of
    work. The nice thing about Excel is that they made it flexible enough that you could
    work around it.

    - Jon
    -------
    Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
    Peltier Technical Services
    Tutorials and Custom Solutions
    http://PeltierTech.com/
    _______

    Phil Preen wrote:
    >>A number of people have written workarounds for your issues. See below.

    >
    >
    > Which just goes to prove that these things are needed. I was dissapointed
    > when these long overdue features weren't included in Office 2003. Can anyone
    > from Microsoft comment on whether these issues will be addressed in Office
    > 2005?
    >
    >
    >>Check out Zoom Charts at http://edferrero.m6.net/charting.aspx
    >>See Jon Peltier's Tertiary Y-Axis at
    >>http://peltiertech.com/Excel/Charts/TertiaryAxis.html
    >>

    >
    > Thanks for the links, I shall check them out.
    >
    > Phil.



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