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    Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    I have created a drop down list and now for some reason another drop down arrow appears in the same spot (see picture below). When I click on it (without clicking on the cell) I get a dropdown with only a blank option. Then when I click on the cell itself the arrow for the drop down list that I actually created, appears and I can choose from my drop down list (but the other drop down arrow can still be seen in the background).

    How can I get rid of this unwanted drop down arrow?

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    That's really weird. I don't suppose, you can clear the rest of the spreadsheet (except the dropdown list) and upload it? (Go Advanced>Manage Attachments)
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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    Try selecting one of the drop down lists and then selecting the "drawing Tools" Ribbon at the top.
    From there select "Selection Pane" which will open a window showing you all the items that were created.
    This might show why there is an additional drop down list.

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    I just uploaded it. I have the problem on two sheets actually:
    - Report (I1)
    - Sensitivities overview (D6)

    Would be really great if you could have a look at it!

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    Ah yes when I go to the selection pane I can see there are actually two drop-downs. I guess I must have somehow accidentally created an additional one.
    On the selection pane I can choose not to view the drop down that I donīt want, but do you know if it is also possible to delet it all together? As I donīt need the other drop down at all.

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    I can't figure it out. I posted for other Excel experts to take a look. I did a search for objects (thinking maybe you overlaid a combobox or something) but nothing there.

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    It does look like it's a 'Drawing'

    What exactly it is or how it got there I have no idea.
    But you can get rid of it..

    On the 'Page Layout' Tab, click to select 'Selection Pane'
    There's a list of objects on the sheet.
    The phantom drop down is 'Drop Down 2', you can just unselect it.

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    Thanks for your advice!
    If I unselect it, it does indeed become invisible, but Iīm wondering whether there is a way to delet it completely?

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    I can only imagine just rebuilding the sheet.

    Create a new sheet
    Copy the contents of the original, paste into the new one.
    Delete the original
    Rename the new one.

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    I am having a look.

    I removed the validation list then selected both i1 and J1 deleting them with a shift left this appeared to get rid of it.
    I'll explore some other ideas


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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    I wonder why when I did F5 > Special > Select Objects, it doesn't select it.

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    Quote Originally Posted by ChemistB View Post
    I wonder why when I did F5 > Special > Select Objects, it doesn't select it.
    I wondered the same thing. It does the same in VBA: selects the True validation item but not the ghost. It might be a bug!
    The validation item seems to be stuck in a cell between I1 and J1.
    Unless ... goes to do more thinking

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    Quote Originally Posted by tony h View Post
    I wondered the same thing. It does the same in VBA: selects the True validation item but not the ghost. It might be a bug!
    The validation item seems to be stuck in a cell between I1 and J1.
    Unless ... goes to do more thinking
    Interesting observation:
    - inserting cells(shift right) in column J moves the ghost right.
    - inserting cells(shift DOWN) does not move the ghost BUT inserting a new row 1 moves the whole lot down.

    But it is only when selecting all the cells between the I1 and the ghost and deleting all in one go does the ghost disappear.

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    davidop because when you delete cell I1 you will mess up all the formulae.
    FIRST:do a FIND $I$1 and REPLACE with another cell eg $K$1 then the formulae will remain intact
    SECOND: select cells I1andJ1 and DELETE shift left
    THIRD: put the validation back in the cell.

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    Very curious indeed.

    It IS recognised as an object in the VBA space - I was able to delete it via VBA.

    The associated names for those two "shapes" are "Drop Down 2" and "Drop Down 3". Just in case you have other objects in there that you want to preserve, the code below should delete just those two drop down objects.

    Just to those who are interested, "Drop Down 2" is the one that we are all seeing. "Drop Down 3" is not visible, and.. also ghost-ish in that when I try and make it visible, it is visible until I select a different cell - and it changes location every time I make it visible (via VBA).

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    Thanks a lot everyone for your contributions!
    In the end I deleted it via VBA - that seemed to do the trick

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    I've had the same issue recently whilst creating a sheet between my home PC (Excel 2016) and my work PC (Excel 2010). Not sure if it's a compatibility issue or a bug with 2016, but pretty much everytime I send it home to do some amendments, a couple of my validation cells add this phantom drop down. Your VBA code has worked for me in the past, but the problem reoccurs, and as I will be sending my sheet to other users (fully locked down so they won't be able to use the same solution), I would like to prevent this altogether. Any thoughts?

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    Hi Chris,

    I've just had a similar thing happen. I built a model for a client (I was using Excel 2010) and they've just upgraded to Excel 2016. They've just called me to tell me about a dropdown not working and having looked into it, it appears to be the issue described above.

    I agree that deleting via VBA might work in the short term but is not a long term 'deployment' solution for clients. I've not thought of a better solution yet through.

    I know a couple of guys in the Excel team at Redmond so will ping it across to them and let you know if I hear anything back.

    Cheers,

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    I've identified what the user is doing to trigger this bug. It occurs when there are multiple data validation list cells selected when the workbook is saved. For example: two sheets and cells with drop down lists are selected on both sheets. The combobox will not appear on the first sheet. It will appear in the selected cells in the subsequent sheets of the workbook (whether that is one sheet or several). And yes, it is a combobox, but it has no name so you cannot delete it programmatically or select it as an object.

    Preventive measures: My preferred solution is to use a workbook closing (and before save event) procedure to programmatically select cells that do not contain data validation lists. This is a sustainable solution. No corrective procedures are needed.

    Corrective measures: To eliminate the combobox after it appears, you can select the cell, copy it, select a new worksheet, paste the copied cell anywhere in the new sheet, then activate the original sheet, and press delete. The vba code is as follows:

    Sub removeArrow()
    Application.ScreenUpdating = False
    ActiveWorkbook.Unprotect
    Dim wsForm As Worksheet
    Set wsForm = ActiveWorkbook.ActiveSheet
    wsForm.Unprotect
    ActiveWorkbook.Worksheets.Add
    Dim wsTemp As Worksheet
    Set wsTemp = ActiveWorkbook.ActiveSheet
    wsForm.Select
    Selection.Copy
    wsTemp.Select
    ActiveSheet.Paste
    wsForm.Select
    Application.CutCopyMode = False
    SendKeys "{DELETE}"
    Application.DisplayAlerts = False
    wsTemp.Delete
    Application.DisplayAlerts = True
    ActiveWorkbook.Protect Structure:=True, Windows:=False
    Application.ScreenUpdating = True
    End Sub

    This bug doesn't exist in Office 2010. I'm using Office 2016. I can't say if it affects any other versions.
    Last edited by TK 421; 02-08-2017 at 06:52 PM.

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    From what I've read, this is a glitch in Excel 2016. I believe that Microsoft is aware of it, but they still have issued a fix for it. I accidentally have found that if you right click the cell with the phantom drop down arrow then click on another cell and click again on the cell with the phantom arrow, the drop down list will appear as it should. I have no idea why this works but you have to do it each time you want to access an offending cell.
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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    yes! I just found this problem in one of my builds, too! Thank you for all the suggestions for how to eliminate them. It's two cells and a mystery as to why... !

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    Thank you for this code!!!!! Perfect!!!!

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    Re: Unwanted drop down arrow appears

    You are very welcome.

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