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    Derive Gross Pay plus Payroll Taxes from a Gross Amount

    I'm trying to write an Excel formula that will take a gross starting number (GSN) and then will compute gross salary, FICA, and Medicare that will add up to equal that amount.

    FICA is 6.2% of gross salary, but only on the first $118,500 of salary
    Medicare is 1.45% of gross salary, with no top limit.

    This would be easy if there wasn't that $118,500 threshold for FICA

    For example,

    Gross Starting Number = 107,650

    would give you:
    Gross salary = 100,000
    FICA = 6,200
    Medicare = 1,450

    I can only tell you these numbers by starting with the gross salary, computing the payroll taxes, and then adding them all up to arrive at the Gross Starting Number, but I need a formula that will give me the same numbers starting with the GSN. Can anyone see a way to do this? Thanks for any help.

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    Re: Derive Gross Pay plus Payroll Taxes from a Gross Amount

    =(E2-IF(E2>$A$5,$A$5,))/(1+IF(E2>$A$5,,$B$2)+$D$2)
    e2 gsn
    a5 118500*(1+6.2%+1.45%)
    b2 6.2%
    d2 1.45%
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    Re: Derive Gross Pay plus Payroll Taxes from a Gross Amount

    Maybe this...assuming $107,650 is in B1, try....
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    NOTE***** In the attachment, the formula for cell B2 is incorrect, use the corrected formula for B2 above.
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    Re: Derive Gross Pay plus Payroll Taxes from a Gross Amount

    Even better for B2
    Since the tax values will be the same for $118500 or more, we can use the actual figures in the formula instead of having the formula calculate it all the time.
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    Re: Derive Gross Pay plus Payroll Taxes from a Gross Amount

    Thanks for the effort, but this isn't working form me. Where GSN = 107,650

    Gross salary = 99,415
    FICA = 6,164
    Medicare = 1,442
    Total = 107,020

    There is an difference of 630 from GSN.

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    Re: Derive Gross Pay plus Payroll Taxes from a Gross Amount

    It seems that with the formula I provided we are taxing the GSN to get the Gross, then taxing the gross as well, which is where the discrepancy is coming from. How are we to determine the Gross from the GSN?

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    Re: Derive Gross Pay plus Payroll Taxes from a Gross Amount

    See attached:

    Calculated GS:

    in G2

    =IF($G2<=118000*(1+$A2+$B2),$G2/(1+$A2+$B2),($G2-118000*$A2)/(1+$B2))

    A2= FICA %

    B2 = Medicare %

    G2=Calculated GSN

    Interim calculations

    in E2

    =MIN(D5,118000)*A5

    in F2

    =D2*B2

    in G2

    =SUM(D2:F2)
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    Re: Derive Gross Pay plus Payroll Taxes from a Gross Amount

    Exactly. That was my question.

    Someone on another Excel forum suggested using the Goal Seek function, which I had never heard of. It works for this, but it's not a formula. If you want to make it work automatically in a spreadsheet, you have to delve into VBA programming.

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    Re: Derive Gross Pay plus Payroll Taxes from a Gross Amount

    John Topley, this isn't what I'm looking for. You're starting with the Gross Salary to compute GSN. I need to start with the GSN to calculate the Gross Salary. Thanks for the effort.

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    Re: Derive Gross Pay plus Payroll Taxes from a Gross Amount

    You clearly did not understand the formula in column I which does calculate the GS based on the GSN in column G.

    The other calculations are simply there as a check.

    You only need the formula in column I.

    You can overwrite the data in G with any GSN.

    Compare I with D As a "checksum".
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    Re: Derive Gross Pay plus Payroll Taxes from a Gross Amount

    Okay. That's not clear from what you've posted. You had a formula in the GSN column, which doesn't make it seem likes it's where data should be entered.

    I've changed the spreadsheet to make it do what I think you meant for it to do and entered various GSN values in column G. I also changed column D so it will pull it's value form column I

    Doing that, the columns add up correctly, as shown in column K, but the FICA isn't maxing out at $118k. It keeps going up to $127,026.98. I've attached the spreadsheet with my changes on the first tabl

    Thanks for your help.
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    Re: Derive Gross Pay plus Payroll Taxes from a Gross Amount

    FICA isn't maxing out at $118k
    unless I misunderstood the FICA reaches a maximum at $118000 salary which equates to $7136. Any figure > $118000 has FICA of 7136 (column E).

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    Re: Derive Gross Pay plus Payroll Taxes from a Gross Amount

    Ah, you're right. I was looking at the wrong column. Thanks!

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