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    How to display tie winners?

    Hi,
    Need some help. I can't find a way to display tie players names. I only need the first 3 winners. For example, if there are 3 Rank #1, then, Winners 1 will have 3 winners to share all the amounts (600$+400$+300$) and there will be no Winners 2 and 3. If there are 2 Rank #1, then there will be no Winner 3. The two Rank #1 will share price of Winners 1 & 2 (600$+400$). And if there is one Rank#1 and one Rank#2, and there are more than one Rank#3, then all the Rank#3 will share the money (300$) of Winner 3.

    I've tried =RANK(G6,$G$6:$G$11,1)+COUNTIF($G$6:G6,G6)-1, i can't display and tell the ties so they share the prizes and not different prizes, and i also tried Rand()+H21, the Rand() will give random winners's name each time, not I want.

    I show here a short list, names of the real list are much more than 6 persons.

    If there a way or a simpler way ?

    thanks
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    Re: How to display tie winners?

    In H21:H25, you have (an unlikely??) scenario - 5 tied results. On what basis do you want three winners to be selected?

    The first 3, in order of appearance? Something else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn Kennedy View Post
    In H21:H25, you have (an unlikely??) scenario - 5 tied results. On what basis do you want three winners to be selected?

    The first 3, in order of appearance? Something else?
    The chance that there are 5 ties will be very low but not impossible. The reason is: if there are 3 ties for first winner, then 1,2,3 prizes go to be shared among the three (if there are 5, the 5 share the 3 amounts equally). If there are ties, no need to be in order, but need to display me ties players’ name. (If not I will have to verify within the hundred of names to count the ties players)

    In the example I use the countif, the one who come tie to #1will be displayed as #2. That will lead him to get the prize of 400$, instead of sharing 600$+400$ with first #1

    I know there’s MAX function that would help, but I can’t figure out how to combine the function.

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    Re: How to display tie winners?

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    Re: How to display tie winners?

    There was rather a lot going on in your sheet.... and (unless I am mistaken!!) this is a bit more complicated than you think.

    You need to decide how many people can share the prize. Ideally it will be 3, but can be more (many more), depending on ties. If 2 tie for 1st place and 1 for 3rd, the two share $1000 and the 3rd gets $300.

    I may have overcomplicated this, but the attached sheet (built from scratch, not your sheet) might do what you want. It covers all the scenarios. I am not sure if it is possible (or desirable) to do this in one neat formula. My suggestion is that the intermediate steps (rows 9-16) could be hidden, or on another sheet.

    Firstly, though. see if this sheet covers all of you possible scenarios.
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    Re: How to display tie winners?

    Thanks Glenn,
    do you know an easier way to display tie players' names?

    For example

    A B
    X 1
    Y 1
    Z 1
    L 4
    M 4

    I want to display the three first winners' name in a row (say row A10 to E10)
    A10 would display the name of X
    B11 would display the name of Y
    C12 would display the name of Z

    thanks
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    Re: How to display tie winners?

    Thats not a row. That's a diagonal. Is that really what you meant???

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    Re: How to display tie winners?

    like this example
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    Re: How to display tie winners?

    You said: "do you know an easier way to display tie players' names?"

    Well, obviously - NO - otherwise I would have done so!! I wouldn't have given you an hour of my life to do it that way if I had seen a way to do it in a minute.

    I am certainly NOT going to give you more of my time to look at providing an alternative layout until you actually look at it and tell me if it is providing the expected results. You can not have looked at it in any detail (if at all) as there was a mistake in the formula (now corrected) which led it to give the wrong result!

    Additionally, in your original data you have 3 columns available per place. How would you fit 5 ties for 1st place into that space (a scenario which you said could happen and which I modelled into my answer)?
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    Re: How to display tie winners?

    thank you Glenn
    I did read your first book1 file, it was showing the same tie names. I've tried to learn and mimic your instructions, but am not at that level yet, so don't know how to use it to adapt to my sheet.
    this new book1 works well, it does display "next" ties players names.
    I will reorganize my sheet in a way to adopt your solution. It will only take more spaces or will need to create another sheets
    because i'll have 6 games total, and each game will have around 140 players

    i was trying with if fucntion (see formula in F34) and then if there is way to just display the next ties players in a cell next to another. If there are more than three #1, then no need to display No#2 or No#3, just display the No#1 ties players names. etc
    I assume that will be complicated formula...

    many thanks and regards
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    Re: How to display tie winners?

    i finally found on YouTube some explanation on your solution (row, aggregate, small) and start to understand and learn how to use your formula.

    https://youtu.be/rKDI-kdBsjY

    thanks
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