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    Finding the average across multiple sheets

    I'm trying to find the average for a person with scores in column 4 on 3 separate sheets. The following function returns #VALUE.. What am I doing wrong? Because the person may be in a different row on each sheet, I'm thinking I need to use the VLOOKUP function.... Help!!! Also, as an aside, the person may have a zero on one sheet that would affect the average score...

    =AVERAGE(VLOOKUP(A4,Week03:Week01!A$4:G$30,4,0))

  2. #2
    Biff
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    Re: Finding the average across multiple sheets

    Hi!

    > the person may have a zero on one sheet that would affect the
    > average score...


    Does that mean you want to exclude any zeros from the average?

    Biff

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    > I'm trying to find the average for a person with scores in column 4 on 3
    > separate sheets. The following function returns #VALUE.. What am I doing
    > wrong? Because the person may be in a different row on each sheet, I'm
    > thinking I need to use the VLOOKUP function.... Help!!! Also, as an
    > aside, the person may have a zero on one sheet that would affect the
    > average score...
    >
    > =AVERAGE(VLOOKUP(A4,Week03:Week01!A$4:G$30,4,0))
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    Finding the average score across multiple sheets

    Hi Biff,
    Yes. If they have a zero, then this should not count in their average score.

    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Biff
    Hi!

    > the person may have a zero on one sheet that would affect the
    > average score...


    Does that mean you want to exclude any zeros from the average?

    Biff

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    > I'm trying to find the average for a person with scores in column 4 on 3
    > separate sheets. The following function returns #VALUE.. What am I doing
    > wrong? Because the person may be in a different row on each sheet, I'm
    > thinking I need to use the VLOOKUP function.... Help!!! Also, as an
    > aside, the person may have a zero on one sheet that would affect the
    > average score...
    >
    > =AVERAGE(VLOOKUP(A4,Week03:Week01!A$4:G$30,4,0))
    >
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  4. #4
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    Re: Finding the average across multiple sheets

    Hi!

    After reading your post again I see that the name and score can be anywhere
    within the range on each of the sheets. I don't think this is possible to do
    (at least, I don't know how to do it!).

    If the data was in the same cell on each sheet this would be simple but a
    multi-conditional (name and score greater than zero)average across sheets is
    not possible! Excel just doesn't handle 3D referencing easily. If anyone CAN
    do this I be interested to see how! (using a single formula!)

    Biff

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    > Hi Biff,
    > Yes. If they have a zero, then this should not count in their average
    > score.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > Biff Wrote:
    >> Hi!
    >>
    >> > the person may have a zero on one sheet that would affect the
    >> > average score...

    >>
    >> Does that mean you want to exclude any zeros from the average?
    >>
    >> Biff
    >>
    >> "quailhunter"
    >> <[email protected]>
    >> wrote in message
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    >> >
    >> > I'm trying to find the average for a person with scores in column 4

    >> on 3
    >> > separate sheets. The following function returns #VALUE.. What am I

    >> doing
    >> > wrong? Because the person may be in a different row on each sheet,

    >> I'm
    >> > thinking I need to use the VLOOKUP function.... Help!!! Also, as an
    >> > aside, the person may have a zero on one sheet that would affect the
    >> > average score...
    >> >
    >> > =AVERAGE(VLOOKUP(A4,Week03:Week01!A$4:G$30,4,0))
    >> >
    >> >
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  5. #5
    Harlan Grove
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    Re: Finding the average across multiple sheets

    quailhunter wrote...
    >I'm trying to find the average for a person with scores in column 4 on 3
    >separate sheets. The following function returns #VALUE.. What am I doing
    >wrong? Because the person may be in a different row on each sheet, I'm
    >thinking I need to use the VLOOKUP function.... Help!!! Also, as an
    >aside, the person may have a zero on one sheet that would affect the
    >average score...
    >
    >=AVERAGE(VLOOKUP(A4,Week03:Week01!A$4:G$30,4,0))


    If you're using VLOOKUP, there'd be at most only one match for A4 in
    any of the worksheets' A4:A30 ranges? If so, you'd need a list of the
    worksheet names in some range (I'll refer to it as WSL), then you could
    try

    =SUMPRODUCT(SUMIF(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),A4,INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30")))
    /SUMPRODUCT(--(SUMIF(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),A4,INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"))>0))


  6. #6
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    Re: Finding the average across multiple sheets

    That doesn't work for me.

    SUMPRODUCT(--(SUMIF(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),A4,INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"))>0))

    Returns the incorrect count

    Biff

    "Harlan Grove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > quailhunter wrote...
    >>I'm trying to find the average for a person with scores in column 4 on 3
    >>separate sheets. The following function returns #VALUE.. What am I doing
    >>wrong? Because the person may be in a different row on each sheet, I'm
    >>thinking I need to use the VLOOKUP function.... Help!!! Also, as an
    >>aside, the person may have a zero on one sheet that would affect the
    >>average score...
    >>
    >>=AVERAGE(VLOOKUP(A4,Week03:Week01!A$4:G$30,4,0))

    >
    > If you're using VLOOKUP, there'd be at most only one match for A4 in
    > any of the worksheets' A4:A30 ranges? If so, you'd need a list of the
    > worksheet names in some range (I'll refer to it as WSL), then you could
    > try
    >
    > =SUMPRODUCT(SUMIF(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),A4,INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30")))
    > /SUMPRODUCT(--(SUMIF(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),A4,INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"))>0))
    >




  7. #7
    Aladin Akyurek
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    Re: Finding the average across multiple sheets

    D

    Biff wrote:
    > That doesn't work for me.
    >
    > SUMPRODUCT(--(SUMIF(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),A4,INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"))>0))
    >
    > Returns the incorrect count
    >

    [...]

    Do you have negative numbers in the ranges of interest?

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    Finding the average score across multiple sheets

    No negatives, either a value or zero.

  9. #9
    Harlan Grove
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    Re: Finding the average across multiple sheets

    Aladin Akyurek wrote...
    >Biff wrote:
    >>That doesn't work for me.
    >>
    >>SUMPRODUCT(--(SUMIF(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),A4,INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"))>0))
    >>
    >>Returns the incorrect count

    ....
    >Do you have negative numbers in the ranges of interest?


    Interesting point. As I've written before, if there can be valid
    positive and negative values, there can also be valid zero values. If
    there can be valid zero values, you can't ignore all zeros in averages.

    That said, if all the values were positive *and* there were only one
    entry matching A1 in each other worksheets' A3:A30 range, then this
    should work (at least it works in my tests).


  10. #10
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    Re: Finding the average across multiple sheets

    >Do you have negative numbers in the ranges of interest?

    No negatives.

    The second Sumproduct is only counting a single instance where the value is
    >0 per sheet:


    Sheet2

    Sue....... 34
    Joe........ 34
    Bob....... 93
    Jim........ 26
    Joe....... 100
    Tom...... 82

    Sheet3

    Tom....... 7
    Sue........ 9
    Liz........ 88
    Joe........ 0
    Joe....... 93
    Bob...... 66

    =SUMPRODUCT(--(SUMIF(INDIRECT("'"&wsl&"'!A4:A30"),A4,INDIRECT("'"&wsl&"'!D4:D30"))>0))

    Returns 2

    Biff

    "Aladin Akyurek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > D
    >
    > Biff wrote:
    >> That doesn't work for me.
    >>
    >> SUMPRODUCT(--(SUMIF(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),A4,INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"))>0))
    >>
    >> Returns the incorrect count
    >>

    > [...]
    >
    > Do you have negative numbers in the ranges of interest?




  11. #11
    Biff
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    Re: Finding the average across multiple sheets

    >That said, if all the values were positive *and* there were only one
    >entry matching A1 in each other worksheets' A3:A30 range, then this
    >should work (at least it works in my tests).


    Yes, it works under those conditions, where there is only a single instance
    (or none) per sheet. I was working on a solution in which there were
    multiple instances per sheet. How could that be done? Nothing I've tried
    works. The difficult part is the count.

    Biff

    "Harlan Grove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Aladin Akyurek wrote...
    >>Biff wrote:
    >>>That doesn't work for me.
    >>>
    >>>SUMPRODUCT(--(SUMIF(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),A4,INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"))>0))
    >>>
    >>>Returns the incorrect count

    > ...
    >>Do you have negative numbers in the ranges of interest?

    >
    > Interesting point. As I've written before, if there can be valid
    > positive and negative values, there can also be valid zero values. If
    > there can be valid zero values, you can't ignore all zeros in averages.
    >
    > That said, if all the values were positive *and* there were only one
    > entry matching A1 in each other worksheets' A3:A30 range, then this
    > should work (at least it works in my tests).
    >




  12. #12
    Harlan Grove
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    Re: Finding the average across multiple sheets

    Biff wrote...
    >>That said, if all the values were positive *and* there were only one
    >>entry matching A1 in each other worksheets' A3:A30 range, then this
    >>should work (at least it works in my tests).

    >
    >Yes, it works under those conditions, where there is only a single instance
    >(or none) per sheet. I was working on a solution in which there were
    >multiple instances per sheet. How could that be done? Nothing I've tried
    >works. The difficult part is the count.

    ....

    There are times it's a PITA that Excel really isn't a 3D spreadsheet.

    The simplest solution would be using Laurent Longre's MOREFUNC.XLL
    add-in, specifically, using that add-in's THREED function.

    =SUMPRODUCT(--(THREED(A:Z!$A$4:$A$30)=A4),THREED(A:Z!$D$4:$D$30))
    /SUMPRODUCT((THREED(A:Z!$A$4:$A$30)=A4)*(THREED(A:Z!$D$4:$D$30)>0))

    Using only built-in functions, it gets very ugly, but it's possible. If
    WSL, the named list of worksheets to process, were a horizontal array,

    =SUMPRODUCT(
    --(T(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))=A4),
    N(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))
    )/SUMPRODUCT(
    (T(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))=A4)*
    (N(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))>0)
    )


  13. #13
    Biff
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    Re: Finding the average across multiple sheets

    >Using only built-in functions, it gets very ugly

    It's not all that ugly and it works! Very nice!

    I was headed in the right direction but was still a long ways off.

    Wonder how the OP made out?

    Biff

    "Harlan Grove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Biff wrote...
    >>>That said, if all the values were positive *and* there were only one
    >>>entry matching A1 in each other worksheets' A3:A30 range, then this
    >>>should work (at least it works in my tests).

    >>
    >>Yes, it works under those conditions, where there is only a single
    >>instance
    >>(or none) per sheet. I was working on a solution in which there were
    >>multiple instances per sheet. How could that be done? Nothing I've tried
    >>works. The difficult part is the count.

    > ...
    >
    > There are times it's a PITA that Excel really isn't a 3D spreadsheet.
    >
    > The simplest solution would be using Laurent Longre's MOREFUNC.XLL
    > add-in, specifically, using that add-in's THREED function.
    >
    > =SUMPRODUCT(--(THREED(A:Z!$A$4:$A$30)=A4),THREED(A:Z!$D$4:$D$30))
    > /SUMPRODUCT((THREED(A:Z!$A$4:$A$30)=A4)*(THREED(A:Z!$D$4:$D$30)>0))
    >
    > Using only built-in functions, it gets very ugly, but it's possible. If
    > WSL, the named list of worksheets to process, were a horizontal array,
    >
    > =SUMPRODUCT(
    > --(T(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))=A4),
    > N(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))
    > )/SUMPRODUCT(
    > (T(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))=A4)*
    > (N(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))>0)
    > )
    >




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    Guys... I feel like you're both pouring your guts out on this one, but I'm definitely doing something wrong. When I entered Biff's function, I get #NAME? returned...

    Here's my setup:
    Sheet1 ---> (This is where I'd like to store the average of sheet2 & sheet3 for each person on Sheet1...)
    Bob
    Jim
    Joe
    Joex
    Liz
    Sue
    Tom

    Sheet2...
    Bob 93
    Jim 26
    Joe 34
    Joe 100
    Sue 34
    Tom 82

    Sheet3...
    Bob 66
    Joe 0
    Joex 93
    Liz 88
    Sue 9
    Tom 7

    So in Sheet1, in B4, I inserted Biff's function and get #NAME returned....


    Quote Originally Posted by Biff
    >Using only built-in functions, it gets very ugly

    It's not all that ugly and it works! Very nice!

    I was headed in the right direction but was still a long ways off.

    Wonder how the OP made out?

    Biff

    "Harlan Grove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Biff wrote...
    >>>That said, if all the values were positive *and* there were only one
    >>>entry matching A1 in each other worksheets' A3:A30 range, then this
    >>>should work (at least it works in my tests).

    >>
    >>Yes, it works under those conditions, where there is only a single
    >>instance
    >>(or none) per sheet. I was working on a solution in which there were
    >>multiple instances per sheet. How could that be done? Nothing I've tried
    >>works. The difficult part is the count.

    > ...
    >
    > There are times it's a PITA that Excel really isn't a 3D spreadsheet.
    >
    > The simplest solution would be using Laurent Longre's MOREFUNC.XLL
    > add-in, specifically, using that add-in's THREED function.
    >
    > =SUMPRODUCT(--(THREED(A:Z!$A$4:$A$30)=A4),THREED(A:Z!$D$4:$D$30))
    > /SUMPRODUCT((THREED(A:Z!$A$4:$A$30)=A4)*(THREED(A:Z!$D$4:$D$30)>0))
    >
    > Using only built-in functions, it gets very ugly, but it's possible. If
    > WSL, the named list of worksheets to process, were a horizontal array,
    >
    > =SUMPRODUCT(
    > --(T(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))=A4),
    > N(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))
    > )/SUMPRODUCT(
    > (T(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))=A4)*
    > (N(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))>0)
    > )
    >

  15. #15
    Biff
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    Re: Finding the average across multiple sheets

    Hi!

    For what it's worth.......

    Some of the "biggest hitters" there are have replied to this thread. If they
    can't do it, it can't be done!

    At least one of the formulas offered here should work so I'm guessing that
    you're missing some minor detail.

    If you want to send me a copy of your file I'll take a look. Just let me
    know how to contact you.

    Biff

    "quailhunter" <[email protected]>
    wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > Guys... I feel like you're both pouring your guts out on this one, but
    > I'm definitely doing something wrong. When I entered Biff's function, I
    > get #NAME? returned...
    >
    > Here's my setup:
    > Sheet1 ---> (This is where I'd like to store the average of sheet2 &
    > sheet3 for each person on Sheet1...)
    > Bob
    > Jim
    > Joe
    > Joex
    > Liz
    > Sue
    > Tom
    >
    > Sheet2...
    > Bob 93
    > Jim 26
    > Joe 34
    > Joe 100
    > Sue 34
    > Tom 82
    >
    > Sheet3...
    > Bob 66
    > Joe 0
    > Joex 93
    > Liz 88
    > Sue 9
    > Tom 7
    >
    > So in Sheet1, in B4, I inserted Biff's function and get #NAME
    > returned....
    >
    >
    > Biff Wrote:
    >> >Using only built-in functions, it gets very ugly

    >>
    >> It's not all that ugly and it works! Very nice!
    >>
    >> I was headed in the right direction but was still a long ways off.
    >>
    >> Wonder how the OP made out?
    >>
    >> Biff
    >>
    >> "Harlan Grove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >> > Biff wrote...
    >> >>>That said, if all the values were positive *and* there were only

    >> one
    >> >>>entry matching A1 in each other worksheets' A3:A30 range, then this
    >> >>>should work (at least it works in my tests).
    >> >>
    >> >>Yes, it works under those conditions, where there is only a single
    >> >>instance
    >> >>(or none) per sheet. I was working on a solution in which there were
    >> >>multiple instances per sheet. How could that be done? Nothing I've

    >> tried
    >> >>works. The difficult part is the count.
    >> > ...
    >> >
    >> > There are times it's a PITA that Excel really isn't a 3D

    >> spreadsheet.
    >> >
    >> > The simplest solution would be using Laurent Longre's MOREFUNC.XLL
    >> > add-in, specifically, using that add-in's THREED function.
    >> >
    >> > =SUMPRODUCT(--(THREED(A:Z!$A$4:$A$30)=A4),THREED(A:Z!$D$4:$D$30))
    >> > /SUMPRODUCT((THREED(A:Z!$A$4:$A$30)=A4)*(THREED(A:Z!$D$4:$D$30)>0))
    >> >
    >> > Using only built-in functions, it gets very ugly, but it's possible.

    >> If
    >> > WSL, the named list of worksheets to process, were a horizontal

    >> array,
    >> >
    >> > =SUMPRODUCT(
    >> >

    >> --(T(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))=A4),
    >> >

    >> N(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))
    >> > )/SUMPRODUCT(
    >> >

    >> (T(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))=A4)*
    >> >

    >> (N(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))>0)
    >> > )
    >> >

    >
    >
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  16. #16
    Harlan Grove
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    Re: Finding the average across multiple sheets

    "quailhunter" <[email protected]>
    wrote...
    ....
    >Here's my setup:
    >Sheet1 ---> (This is where I'd like to store the average of sheet2 &
    >sheet3 for each person on Sheet1...)
    >Bob
    >Jim
    >Joe
    >Joex
    >Liz
    >Sue
    >Tom
    >
    >Sheet2...
    >Bob 93
    >Jim 26
    >Joe 34
    >Joe 100
    >Sue 34
    >Tom 82
    >
    >Sheet3...
    >Bob 66
    >Joe 0
    >Joex 93
    >Liz 88
    >Sue 9
    >Tom 7
    >
    >So in Sheet1, in B4, I inserted Biff's function and get #NAME
    >returned....

    ....

    What's the *EXACT* formula you're trying?

    If you're using something like

    =SUMPRODUCT(
    --(T(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))=A4)
    ,
    N(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))
    )/SUMPRODUCT(
    (T(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))=A4)*
    (N(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30"),ROW(INDIRECT("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))>0)
    )

    did you create a list of worksheet names and define the name WSL referring
    to that list? If not, that'd explain the #NAME? error. If I define WSL
    referring to

    ={"Sheet2","Sheet3"}

    and put your sample names in col A and sample numbers in col D beginning in
    row 4, then with Bob in cell A4 in Sheet1 and the other names below it, I
    enter the *array* formula above in cell B4 in Sheet1, then fill it down into
    B5:B10, I get the following results in A4:B10.

    Bob 79.5
    Jim 26
    Joe 67
    Joex 93
    Liz 88
    Sue 21.5
    Tom 44.5



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    Hi Harlan Grove,

    When you get a chance. Can You explain step by step how this formula works?


    SUMPRODUCT((T(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!A4:A30"),ROW(INDIREC T("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))=A4)*(N(OFFSET(INDIRECT("'"&WSL&"'!D4:D30),ROWINDIREC T("4:30"))-4,0,1,1))>0)

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