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  1. #1
    samenvoegen van sheets
    Guest

    consolidation of tables in excel with text and figures

    Hello,

    I have to consolidate about 20 sheets from 20 differents workbooks (always
    the first one of a workbook).
    The amount of columns are not always the same, so i have used the
    "consolidation" option. The problem is that with the consolidation tool the
    text does not appear on the consolidate sheet.

    what did i do wrong? Or is there an other way to do so?

    thanks in advance
    Florence


  2. #2
    Ron Coderre
    Guest

    RE: consolidation of tables in excel with text and figures

    When you use Data Consolidation in Excel, it only uses the top row and left
    column as references to buld the consolidation. Consequently, if you have
    text in Col_A and Col_B and values in the other columns, you'll lose whatever
    is in Col_B.

    There are other alternatives, but we (ok...I ) would need to know what the
    rules are. You say "columns are not always the same". Since that means you
    couldn't just copy/paste the ranges, how are you hoping to consolidate? Do
    you want all possible column headings and the appropriate data to align under
    each heading? Would there be any summarization of like items?

    ***********
    Regards,
    Ron

    XL2002, WinXP-Pro


    "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:

    > Hello,
    >
    > I have to consolidate about 20 sheets from 20 differents workbooks (always
    > the first one of a workbook).
    > The amount of columns are not always the same, so i have used the
    > "consolidation" option. The problem is that with the consolidation tool the
    > text does not appear on the consolidate sheet.
    >
    > what did i do wrong? Or is there an other way to do so?
    >
    > thanks in advance
    > Florence
    >


  3. #3
    samenvoegen van sheets
    Guest

    RE: consolidation of tables in excel with text and figures

    Hi Ron,

    thks for your answer.
    i'll take a example to make it easier to explain.
    sheet 1:
    liner ab ac ad
    4 usd 234 456
    5 eur 234 456
    6 eur 234 456

    sheet 2
    Liner ab bc bd
    1 741 789 258
    2 741 789 258
    3 741 789 258

    consolidate sheet should be:
    Liner ab ac ad bc bd
    4 usd 234 456
    5 eur 234 456
    6 eur 234 456
    1 741 789 258
    2 741 789 258
    3 741 789 258

    As you said, i would like to have all possible column headings and the
    appropriate data to align under each heading.
    as you can see from the example none of the rows are the same, so one cell
    can never contain more than one figure.
    With the consolidation tool it is easy to do but my text doesn't appear as
    you said in your answer..
    The problem is that i would like to consolidate about 20 differents sheets
    (approximatly A1:BZ35) and i would like to you an easy formule/tool because
    it's something i would have to do continually in my job.

    It could be so nice if you could help be.
    thks,
    Flo


    "Ron Coderre" wrote:

    > When you use Data Consolidation in Excel, it only uses the top row and left
    > column as references to buld the consolidation. Consequently, if you have
    > text in Col_A and Col_B and values in the other columns, you'll lose whatever
    > is in Col_B.
    >
    > There are other alternatives, but we (ok...I ) would need to know what the
    > rules are. You say "columns are not always the same". Since that means you
    > couldn't just copy/paste the ranges, how are you hoping to consolidate? Do
    > you want all possible column headings and the appropriate data to align under
    > each heading? Would there be any summarization of like items?
    >
    > ***********
    > Regards,
    > Ron
    >
    > XL2002, WinXP-Pro
    >
    >
    > "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:
    >
    > > Hello,
    > >
    > > I have to consolidate about 20 sheets from 20 differents workbooks (always
    > > the first one of a workbook).
    > > The amount of columns are not always the same, so i have used the
    > > "consolidation" option. The problem is that with the consolidation tool the
    > > text does not appear on the consolidate sheet.
    > >
    > > what did i do wrong? Or is there an other way to do so?
    > >
    > > thanks in advance
    > > Florence
    > >


  4. #4
    Ron Coderre
    Guest

    RE: consolidation of tables in excel with text and figures

    The way your data is structured does not lend itself to being easily
    consolidated in Excel. Not that it couldn't be done but in this instance,
    Excel is just the wrong tool.

    Personally, I'd use MS Access to perform the consolidation.
    All you'd need to do is set up a table structure that contains all unique
    column headings, then import(append) each of the 20 data ranges to that
    table. Each Excel column of data would find its match in the MS Access table
    and automatically load there. To make the load process even easier you could
    quickly set up a macro sheet (not vba...a macro sheeet) to perform each load.
    In the MSA model I threw together using your sample data, the model
    consolidated everything just the way you want it in less than a blink.

    Even if you have very little experience with MS Access, that process would
    barely even touch its capabilities (not even queries). You'd only be using
    it as a staging ground.

    Is that something you'd consider?

    Regards,
    Ron

    ***********
    Regards,
    Ron

    XL2002, WinXP-Pro


    "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:

    > Hi Ron,
    >
    > thks for your answer.
    > i'll take a example to make it easier to explain.
    > sheet 1:
    > liner ab ac ad
    > 4 usd 234 456
    > 5 eur 234 456
    > 6 eur 234 456
    >
    > sheet 2
    > Liner ab bc bd
    > 1 741 789 258
    > 2 741 789 258
    > 3 741 789 258
    >
    > consolidate sheet should be:
    > Liner ab ac ad bc bd
    > 4 usd 234 456
    > 5 eur 234 456
    > 6 eur 234 456
    > 1 741 789 258
    > 2 741 789 258
    > 3 741 789 258
    >
    > As you said, i would like to have all possible column headings and the
    > appropriate data to align under each heading.
    > as you can see from the example none of the rows are the same, so one cell
    > can never contain more than one figure.
    > With the consolidation tool it is easy to do but my text doesn't appear as
    > you said in your answer..
    > The problem is that i would like to consolidate about 20 differents sheets
    > (approximatly A1:BZ35) and i would like to you an easy formule/tool because
    > it's something i would have to do continually in my job.
    >
    > It could be so nice if you could help be.
    > thks,
    > Flo
    >
    >
    > "Ron Coderre" wrote:
    >
    > > When you use Data Consolidation in Excel, it only uses the top row and left
    > > column as references to buld the consolidation. Consequently, if you have
    > > text in Col_A and Col_B and values in the other columns, you'll lose whatever
    > > is in Col_B.
    > >
    > > There are other alternatives, but we (ok...I ) would need to know what the
    > > rules are. You say "columns are not always the same". Since that means you
    > > couldn't just copy/paste the ranges, how are you hoping to consolidate? Do
    > > you want all possible column headings and the appropriate data to align under
    > > each heading? Would there be any summarization of like items?
    > >
    > > ***********
    > > Regards,
    > > Ron
    > >
    > > XL2002, WinXP-Pro
    > >
    > >
    > > "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:
    > >
    > > > Hello,
    > > >
    > > > I have to consolidate about 20 sheets from 20 differents workbooks (always
    > > > the first one of a workbook).
    > > > The amount of columns are not always the same, so i have used the
    > > > "consolidation" option. The problem is that with the consolidation tool the
    > > > text does not appear on the consolidate sheet.
    > > >
    > > > what did i do wrong? Or is there an other way to do so?
    > > >
    > > > thanks in advance
    > > > Florence
    > > >


  5. #5
    samenvoegen van sheets
    Guest

    RE: consolidation of tables in excel with text and figures

    Yes if it's possible to retrieve the consolidate table from access to excel
    again... why not.
    The problem is dat I've never open a doc in access, but if you say I don't
    need a lot of experience in access I'm ready to do so...
    Can you guide me?

    "Ron Coderre" wrote:

    > The way your data is structured does not lend itself to being easily
    > consolidated in Excel. Not that it couldn't be done but in this instance,
    > Excel is just the wrong tool.
    >
    > Personally, I'd use MS Access to perform the consolidation.
    > All you'd need to do is set up a table structure that contains all unique
    > column headings, then import(append) each of the 20 data ranges to that
    > table. Each Excel column of data would find its match in the MS Access table
    > and automatically load there. To make the load process even easier you could
    > quickly set up a macro sheet (not vba...a macro sheeet) to perform each load.
    > In the MSA model I threw together using your sample data, the model
    > consolidated everything just the way you want it in less than a blink.
    >
    > Even if you have very little experience with MS Access, that process would
    > barely even touch its capabilities (not even queries). You'd only be using
    > it as a staging ground.
    >
    > Is that something you'd consider?
    >
    > Regards,
    > Ron
    >
    > ***********
    > Regards,
    > Ron
    >
    > XL2002, WinXP-Pro
    >
    >
    > "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:
    >
    > > Hi Ron,
    > >
    > > thks for your answer.
    > > i'll take a example to make it easier to explain.
    > > sheet 1:
    > > liner ab ac ad
    > > 4 usd 234 456
    > > 5 eur 234 456
    > > 6 eur 234 456
    > >
    > > sheet 2
    > > Liner ab bc bd
    > > 1 741 789 258
    > > 2 741 789 258
    > > 3 741 789 258
    > >
    > > consolidate sheet should be:
    > > Liner ab ac ad bc bd
    > > 4 usd 234 456
    > > 5 eur 234 456
    > > 6 eur 234 456
    > > 1 741 789 258
    > > 2 741 789 258
    > > 3 741 789 258
    > >
    > > As you said, i would like to have all possible column headings and the
    > > appropriate data to align under each heading.
    > > as you can see from the example none of the rows are the same, so one cell
    > > can never contain more than one figure.
    > > With the consolidation tool it is easy to do but my text doesn't appear as
    > > you said in your answer..
    > > The problem is that i would like to consolidate about 20 differents sheets
    > > (approximatly A1:BZ35) and i would like to you an easy formule/tool because
    > > it's something i would have to do continually in my job.
    > >
    > > It could be so nice if you could help be.
    > > thks,
    > > Flo
    > >
    > >
    > > "Ron Coderre" wrote:
    > >
    > > > When you use Data Consolidation in Excel, it only uses the top row and left
    > > > column as references to buld the consolidation. Consequently, if you have
    > > > text in Col_A and Col_B and values in the other columns, you'll lose whatever
    > > > is in Col_B.
    > > >
    > > > There are other alternatives, but we (ok...I ) would need to know what the
    > > > rules are. You say "columns are not always the same". Since that means you
    > > > couldn't just copy/paste the ranges, how are you hoping to consolidate? Do
    > > > you want all possible column headings and the appropriate data to align under
    > > > each heading? Would there be any summarization of like items?
    > > >
    > > > ***********
    > > > Regards,
    > > > Ron
    > > >
    > > > XL2002, WinXP-Pro
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Hello,
    > > > >
    > > > > I have to consolidate about 20 sheets from 20 differents workbooks (always
    > > > > the first one of a workbook).
    > > > > The amount of columns are not always the same, so i have used the
    > > > > "consolidation" option. The problem is that with the consolidation tool the
    > > > > text does not appear on the consolidate sheet.
    > > > >
    > > > > what did i do wrong? Or is there an other way to do so?
    > > > >
    > > > > thanks in advance
    > > > > Florence
    > > > >


  6. #6
    Ron Coderre
    Guest

    RE: consolidation of tables in excel with text and figures

    OK....Here you go

    Note: There's a bit of prep work to set things up, but you only have to do
    this once.

    Using your example data

    First, create a range for each set of data
    Here's how:
    Select the data range
    Insert>Name>Define
    Names in Workbook: (enter a unique name here like: rngDataSht1)
    Refers to: (your already selected range)
    Click the [OK] button
    repeat for each sheet of data, changing the name each time:
    rngDataSht2, rngDataSht3, etc

    Save the file

    In MS Access (MSA), select the Tables tab
    Click the [New] button and use design mode
    Enter these fields (as text fields):
    Liner
    AB
    AC
    AD
    BC
    BD

    Save the table structure
    Name:tblConsolData
    (Do not set a primary key)

    Now, select the Macros tab
    Click the [New] button
    In the Action column select TransferSpreadsheet from the dropdown list.
    At the bottom of the window fill out the table as follows:
    Transfer type: Import
    Spreadsheet type: (use the default for Excel)
    Table Name: tblConsolData
    File Name: (Enter the complete path to the file, including the file name)
    Has Field Names: Yes
    Range: rngDataSht1 (or whatever name you used)

    Next, select the black triangle at the top of the window to select that row
    Edit|Copy
    Select the next row down
    Edit|Paste (to set commands to pull in the next data range)
    Switch to the bottom of the window and set the next range name to be pulled
    (Repeat for as many ranges as you need.)

    Save and close the macro sheet as: ConsolXLData

    To run the consolidation
    Double-click the ConsolXLData macro sheet

    To view the consolidated data, double click on the tblConsolData table
    (If you don't see your data...STOP and we'll figure out what needs to be
    adjusted)
    Save and close the Access database (I'll assume it's called MyData.mdb)

    Using Excel:
    Select a blank sheet
    Data|Import External Data|Import Data
    Browse to the MSA mdb file using the Look In dropdown at the top of the
    window.
    When you find the file, double-click it to see the list of tables
    Double-click the tblConsolData table
    Select where in the Excel file you want to imported data to start
    Click the [OK] button....That should bring in your consolidated data

    Any other time you want to refresh the data:
    Right-click on one of the column headings in the Excel data range
    Select Refresh Data

    Is that something you can work with?

    ***********
    Regards,
    Ron

    XL2002, WinXP-Pro


    "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:

    > Yes if it's possible to retrieve the consolidate table from access to excel
    > again... why not.
    > The problem is dat I've never open a doc in access, but if you say I don't
    > need a lot of experience in access I'm ready to do so...
    > Can you guide me?
    >
    > "Ron Coderre" wrote:
    >
    > > The way your data is structured does not lend itself to being easily
    > > consolidated in Excel. Not that it couldn't be done but in this instance,
    > > Excel is just the wrong tool.
    > >
    > > Personally, I'd use MS Access to perform the consolidation.
    > > All you'd need to do is set up a table structure that contains all unique
    > > column headings, then import(append) each of the 20 data ranges to that
    > > table. Each Excel column of data would find its match in the MS Access table
    > > and automatically load there. To make the load process even easier you could
    > > quickly set up a macro sheet (not vba...a macro sheeet) to perform each load.
    > > In the MSA model I threw together using your sample data, the model
    > > consolidated everything just the way you want it in less than a blink.
    > >
    > > Even if you have very little experience with MS Access, that process would
    > > barely even touch its capabilities (not even queries). You'd only be using
    > > it as a staging ground.
    > >
    > > Is that something you'd consider?
    > >
    > > Regards,
    > > Ron
    > >
    > > ***********
    > > Regards,
    > > Ron
    > >
    > > XL2002, WinXP-Pro
    > >
    > >
    > > "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:
    > >
    > > > Hi Ron,
    > > >
    > > > thks for your answer.
    > > > i'll take a example to make it easier to explain.
    > > > sheet 1:
    > > > liner ab ac ad
    > > > 4 usd 234 456
    > > > 5 eur 234 456
    > > > 6 eur 234 456
    > > >
    > > > sheet 2
    > > > Liner ab bc bd
    > > > 1 741 789 258
    > > > 2 741 789 258
    > > > 3 741 789 258
    > > >
    > > > consolidate sheet should be:
    > > > Liner ab ac ad bc bd
    > > > 4 usd 234 456
    > > > 5 eur 234 456
    > > > 6 eur 234 456
    > > > 1 741 789 258
    > > > 2 741 789 258
    > > > 3 741 789 258
    > > >
    > > > As you said, i would like to have all possible column headings and the
    > > > appropriate data to align under each heading.
    > > > as you can see from the example none of the rows are the same, so one cell
    > > > can never contain more than one figure.
    > > > With the consolidation tool it is easy to do but my text doesn't appear as
    > > > you said in your answer..
    > > > The problem is that i would like to consolidate about 20 differents sheets
    > > > (approximatly A1:BZ35) and i would like to you an easy formule/tool because
    > > > it's something i would have to do continually in my job.
    > > >
    > > > It could be so nice if you could help be.
    > > > thks,
    > > > Flo
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Ron Coderre" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > When you use Data Consolidation in Excel, it only uses the top row and left
    > > > > column as references to buld the consolidation. Consequently, if you have
    > > > > text in Col_A and Col_B and values in the other columns, you'll lose whatever
    > > > > is in Col_B.
    > > > >
    > > > > There are other alternatives, but we (ok...I ) would need to know what the
    > > > > rules are. You say "columns are not always the same". Since that means you
    > > > > couldn't just copy/paste the ranges, how are you hoping to consolidate? Do
    > > > > you want all possible column headings and the appropriate data to align under
    > > > > each heading? Would there be any summarization of like items?
    > > > >
    > > > > ***********
    > > > > Regards,
    > > > > Ron
    > > > >
    > > > > XL2002, WinXP-Pro
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > > Hello,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > I have to consolidate about 20 sheets from 20 differents workbooks (always
    > > > > > the first one of a workbook).
    > > > > > The amount of columns are not always the same, so i have used the
    > > > > > "consolidation" option. The problem is that with the consolidation tool the
    > > > > > text does not appear on the consolidate sheet.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > what did i do wrong? Or is there an other way to do so?
    > > > > >
    > > > > > thanks in advance
    > > > > > Florence
    > > > > >


  7. #7
    samenvoegen van sheets
    Guest

    RE: consolidation of tables in excel with text and figures

    Hi Ron,
    thks a lot for your clear help !!
    However, I have a problem when running the macro.
    it says "External table is not in the expected format".

    So i was wondering what i did wrong ... (to be honest i don't know)
    but i was wondering if the macro is retriving the data from all my workbook
    or do i need to put allmy sheet in one excelworkbook?

    Also i was no sure about the file name: to you meant something like that:
    "C:\MSLM test\Mars sheets for consolidation 1"
    the "Mars Sheets for consolidation1" beeing the folder where all the excel
    workbooks are.

    thks a lot
    brgds,
    florence

    "Ron Coderre" wrote:

    > OK....Here you go
    >
    > Note: There's a bit of prep work to set things up, but you only have to do
    > this once.
    >
    > Using your example data
    >
    > First, create a range for each set of data
    > Here's how:
    > Select the data range
    > Insert>Name>Define
    > Names in Workbook: (enter a unique name here like: rngDataSht1)
    > Refers to: (your already selected range)
    > Click the [OK] button
    > repeat for each sheet of data, changing the name each time:
    > rngDataSht2, rngDataSht3, etc
    >
    > Save the file
    >
    > In MS Access (MSA), select the Tables tab
    > Click the [New] button and use design mode
    > Enter these fields (as text fields):
    > Liner
    > AB
    > AC
    > AD
    > BC
    > BD
    >
    > Save the table structure
    > Name:tblConsolData
    > (Do not set a primary key)
    >
    > Now, select the Macros tab
    > Click the [New] button
    > In the Action column select TransferSpreadsheet from the dropdown list.
    > At the bottom of the window fill out the table as follows:
    > Transfer type: Import
    > Spreadsheet type: (use the default for Excel)
    > Table Name: tblConsolData
    > File Name: (Enter the complete path to the file, including the file name)
    > Has Field Names: Yes
    > Range: rngDataSht1 (or whatever name you used)
    >
    > Next, select the black triangle at the top of the window to select that row
    > Edit|Copy
    > Select the next row down
    > Edit|Paste (to set commands to pull in the next data range)
    > Switch to the bottom of the window and set the next range name to be pulled
    > (Repeat for as many ranges as you need.)
    >
    > Save and close the macro sheet as: ConsolXLData
    >
    > To run the consolidation
    > Double-click the ConsolXLData macro sheet
    >
    > To view the consolidated data, double click on the tblConsolData table
    > (If you don't see your data...STOP and we'll figure out what needs to be
    > adjusted)
    > Save and close the Access database (I'll assume it's called MyData.mdb)
    >
    > Using Excel:
    > Select a blank sheet
    > Data|Import External Data|Import Data
    > Browse to the MSA mdb file using the Look In dropdown at the top of the
    > window.
    > When you find the file, double-click it to see the list of tables
    > Double-click the tblConsolData table
    > Select where in the Excel file you want to imported data to start
    > Click the [OK] button....That should bring in your consolidated data
    >
    > Any other time you want to refresh the data:
    > Right-click on one of the column headings in the Excel data range
    > Select Refresh Data
    >
    > Is that something you can work with?
    >
    > ***********
    > Regards,
    > Ron
    >
    > XL2002, WinXP-Pro
    >
    >
    > "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:
    >
    > > Yes if it's possible to retrieve the consolidate table from access to excel
    > > again... why not.
    > > The problem is dat I've never open a doc in access, but if you say I don't
    > > need a lot of experience in access I'm ready to do so...
    > > Can you guide me?
    > >
    > > "Ron Coderre" wrote:
    > >
    > > > The way your data is structured does not lend itself to being easily
    > > > consolidated in Excel. Not that it couldn't be done but in this instance,
    > > > Excel is just the wrong tool.
    > > >
    > > > Personally, I'd use MS Access to perform the consolidation.
    > > > All you'd need to do is set up a table structure that contains all unique
    > > > column headings, then import(append) each of the 20 data ranges to that
    > > > table. Each Excel column of data would find its match in the MS Access table
    > > > and automatically load there. To make the load process even easier you could
    > > > quickly set up a macro sheet (not vba...a macro sheeet) to perform each load.
    > > > In the MSA model I threw together using your sample data, the model
    > > > consolidated everything just the way you want it in less than a blink.
    > > >
    > > > Even if you have very little experience with MS Access, that process would
    > > > barely even touch its capabilities (not even queries). You'd only be using
    > > > it as a staging ground.
    > > >
    > > > Is that something you'd consider?
    > > >
    > > > Regards,
    > > > Ron
    > > >
    > > > ***********
    > > > Regards,
    > > > Ron
    > > >
    > > > XL2002, WinXP-Pro
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Hi Ron,
    > > > >
    > > > > thks for your answer.
    > > > > i'll take a example to make it easier to explain.
    > > > > sheet 1:
    > > > > liner ab ac ad
    > > > > 4 usd 234 456
    > > > > 5 eur 234 456
    > > > > 6 eur 234 456
    > > > >
    > > > > sheet 2
    > > > > Liner ab bc bd
    > > > > 1 741 789 258
    > > > > 2 741 789 258
    > > > > 3 741 789 258
    > > > >
    > > > > consolidate sheet should be:
    > > > > Liner ab ac ad bc bd
    > > > > 4 usd 234 456
    > > > > 5 eur 234 456
    > > > > 6 eur 234 456
    > > > > 1 741 789 258
    > > > > 2 741 789 258
    > > > > 3 741 789 258
    > > > >
    > > > > As you said, i would like to have all possible column headings and the
    > > > > appropriate data to align under each heading.
    > > > > as you can see from the example none of the rows are the same, so one cell
    > > > > can never contain more than one figure.
    > > > > With the consolidation tool it is easy to do but my text doesn't appear as
    > > > > you said in your answer..
    > > > > The problem is that i would like to consolidate about 20 differents sheets
    > > > > (approximatly A1:BZ35) and i would like to you an easy formule/tool because
    > > > > it's something i would have to do continually in my job.
    > > > >
    > > > > It could be so nice if you could help be.
    > > > > thks,
    > > > > Flo
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Ron Coderre" wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > > When you use Data Consolidation in Excel, it only uses the top row and left
    > > > > > column as references to buld the consolidation. Consequently, if you have
    > > > > > text in Col_A and Col_B and values in the other columns, you'll lose whatever
    > > > > > is in Col_B.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > There are other alternatives, but we (ok...I ) would need to know what the
    > > > > > rules are. You say "columns are not always the same". Since that means you
    > > > > > couldn't just copy/paste the ranges, how are you hoping to consolidate? Do
    > > > > > you want all possible column headings and the appropriate data to align under
    > > > > > each heading? Would there be any summarization of like items?
    > > > > >
    > > > > > ***********
    > > > > > Regards,
    > > > > > Ron
    > > > > >
    > > > > > XL2002, WinXP-Pro
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > Hello,
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > I have to consolidate about 20 sheets from 20 differents workbooks (always
    > > > > > > the first one of a workbook).
    > > > > > > The amount of columns are not always the same, so i have used the
    > > > > > > "consolidation" option. The problem is that with the consolidation tool the
    > > > > > > text does not appear on the consolidate sheet.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > what did i do wrong? Or is there an other way to do so?
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > thanks in advance
    > > > > > > Florence
    > > > > > >


  8. #8
    samenvoegen van sheets
    Guest

    RE: consolidation of tables in excel with text and figures

    Ok thks for your help i'll try to verify all this and then i'll try again.
    I'll keep you informed

    "Ron Coderre" wrote:

    > OK...let's see what I can do to help.
    >
    > >>External table is not in the expected format<<

    > Since access works with tables, your data must be in a table format. That
    > means avoid blank column headings, spaces in column headings (MyCol....not:
    > My Col), etc. Also, since it appeared that data columns might contain either
    > numbers or text, I had you define each column as text.
    >
    > One way to help find the problem is to manually try to import the data into
    > the MSA table:
    > Start by opening your consolidation table
    > Edit|Select All Records
    > Press the [Delete] key to clear any data that might already be in the table
    >
    > File|Get External Data|Import
    > Files of type: Excel files
    > Select your file
    > Click the [Import] button
    > Select: Show Named Ranges
    > Select a range name to import....Click [Next]
    > Check: First rows contains Column Headings....Click [Next]
    > Check: In an existing table...select your consolidation table....Click [Next]
    > Click the [Finish] button
    >
    > If you run into any problems you can't figure out, note the error and post it.
    > Repeat for each range
    >
    > >>i was not sure about the file name<<

    > On the macro sheet, you enter the complete path of the file, including the
    > name:
    > example: "C:\myFolder\MyDataFile.xls"
    >
    > Since the sheets are in different workbooks, there will be a different file
    > path and name for each line of the macro.
    >
    > Post your progress.
    >
    > Once you get comfortable with this method you'll see that it's extremely
    > powerful. I've used it to consolidate literally hundreds of Excel tables in
    > hardly any time at all.
    >
    > ***********
    > Best Regards,
    > Ron
    >
    > XL2002, WinXP-Pro
    >
    >
    > "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:
    >
    > > Hi Ron,
    > > thks a lot for your clear help !!
    > > However, I have a problem when running the macro.
    > > it says "External table is not in the expected format".
    > >
    > > So i was wondering what i did wrong ... (to be honest i don't know)
    > > but i was wondering if the macro is retriving the data from all my workbook
    > > or do i need to put allmy sheet in one excelworkbook?
    > >
    > > Also i was no sure about the file name: to you meant something like that:
    > > "C:\MSLM test\Mars sheets for consolidation 1"
    > > the "Mars Sheets for consolidation1" beeing the folder where all the excel
    > > workbooks are.
    > >
    > > thks a lot
    > > brgds,
    > > florence
    > >
    > > "Ron Coderre" wrote:
    > >
    > > > OK....Here you go
    > > >
    > > > Note: There's a bit of prep work to set things up, but you only have to do
    > > > this once.
    > > >
    > > > Using your example data
    > > >
    > > > First, create a range for each set of data
    > > > Here's how:
    > > > Select the data range
    > > > Insert>Name>Define
    > > > Names in Workbook: (enter a unique name here like: rngDataSht1)
    > > > Refers to: (your already selected range)
    > > > Click the [OK] button
    > > > repeat for each sheet of data, changing the name each time:
    > > > rngDataSht2, rngDataSht3, etc
    > > >
    > > > Save the file
    > > >
    > > > In MS Access (MSA), select the Tables tab
    > > > Click the [New] button and use design mode
    > > > Enter these fields (as text fields):
    > > > Liner
    > > > AB
    > > > AC
    > > > AD
    > > > BC
    > > > BD
    > > >
    > > > Save the table structure
    > > > Name:tblConsolData
    > > > (Do not set a primary key)
    > > >
    > > > Now, select the Macros tab
    > > > Click the [New] button
    > > > In the Action column select TransferSpreadsheet from the dropdown list.
    > > > At the bottom of the window fill out the table as follows:
    > > > Transfer type: Import
    > > > Spreadsheet type: (use the default for Excel)
    > > > Table Name: tblConsolData
    > > > File Name: (Enter the complete path to the file, including the file name)
    > > > Has Field Names: Yes
    > > > Range: rngDataSht1 (or whatever name you used)
    > > >
    > > > Next, select the black triangle at the top of the window to select that row
    > > > Edit|Copy
    > > > Select the next row down
    > > > Edit|Paste (to set commands to pull in the next data range)
    > > > Switch to the bottom of the window and set the next range name to be pulled
    > > > (Repeat for as many ranges as you need.)
    > > >
    > > > Save and close the macro sheet as: ConsolXLData
    > > >
    > > > To run the consolidation
    > > > Double-click the ConsolXLData macro sheet
    > > >
    > > > To view the consolidated data, double click on the tblConsolData table
    > > > (If you don't see your data...STOP and we'll figure out what needs to be
    > > > adjusted)
    > > > Save and close the Access database (I'll assume it's called MyData.mdb)
    > > >
    > > > Using Excel:
    > > > Select a blank sheet
    > > > Data|Import External Data|Import Data
    > > > Browse to the MSA mdb file using the Look In dropdown at the top of the
    > > > window.
    > > > When you find the file, double-click it to see the list of tables
    > > > Double-click the tblConsolData table
    > > > Select where in the Excel file you want to imported data to start
    > > > Click the [OK] button....That should bring in your consolidated data
    > > >
    > > > Any other time you want to refresh the data:
    > > > Right-click on one of the column headings in the Excel data range
    > > > Select Refresh Data
    > > >
    > > > Is that something you can work with?
    > > >
    > > > ***********
    > > > Regards,
    > > > Ron
    > > >
    > > > XL2002, WinXP-Pro
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Yes if it's possible to retrieve the consolidate table from access to excel
    > > > > again... why not.
    > > > > The problem is dat I've never open a doc in access, but if you say I don't
    > > > > need a lot of experience in access I'm ready to do so...
    > > > > Can you guide me?
    > > > >
    > > > > "Ron Coderre" wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > > The way your data is structured does not lend itself to being easily
    > > > > > consolidated in Excel. Not that it couldn't be done but in this instance,
    > > > > > Excel is just the wrong tool.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Personally, I'd use MS Access to perform the consolidation.
    > > > > > All you'd need to do is set up a table structure that contains all unique
    > > > > > column headings, then import(append) each of the 20 data ranges to that
    > > > > > table. Each Excel column of data would find its match in the MS Access table
    > > > > > and automatically load there. To make the load process even easier you could
    > > > > > quickly set up a macro sheet (not vba...a macro sheeet) to perform each load.
    > > > > > In the MSA model I threw together using your sample data, the model
    > > > > > consolidated everything just the way you want it in less than a blink.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Even if you have very little experience with MS Access, that process would
    > > > > > barely even touch its capabilities (not even queries). You'd only be using
    > > > > > it as a staging ground.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Is that something you'd consider?
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Regards,
    > > > > > Ron
    > > > > >
    > > > > > ***********
    > > > > > Regards,
    > > > > > Ron
    > > > > >
    > > > > > XL2002, WinXP-Pro
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > Hi Ron,
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > thks for your answer.
    > > > > > > i'll take a example to make it easier to explain.
    > > > > > > sheet 1:
    > > > > > > liner ab ac ad
    > > > > > > 4 usd 234 456
    > > > > > > 5 eur 234 456
    > > > > > > 6 eur 234 456
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > sheet 2
    > > > > > > Liner ab bc bd
    > > > > > > 1 741 789 258
    > > > > > > 2 741 789 258
    > > > > > > 3 741 789 258
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > consolidate sheet should be:
    > > > > > > Liner ab ac ad bc bd
    > > > > > > 4 usd 234 456
    > > > > > > 5 eur 234 456
    > > > > > > 6 eur 234 456
    > > > > > > 1 741 789 258
    > > > > > > 2 741 789 258
    > > > > > > 3 741 789 258
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > As you said, i would like to have all possible column headings and the
    > > > > > > appropriate data to align under each heading.
    > > > > > > as you can see from the example none of the rows are the same, so one cell
    > > > > > > can never contain more than one figure.
    > > > > > > With the consolidation tool it is easy to do but my text doesn't appear as
    > > > > > > you said in your answer..
    > > > > > > The problem is that i would like to consolidate about 20 differents sheets
    > > > > > > (approximatly A1:BZ35) and i would like to you an easy formule/tool because
    > > > > > > it's something i would have to do continually in my job.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > It could be so nice if you could help be.
    > > > > > > thks,
    > > > > > > Flo
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > "Ron Coderre" wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > When you use Data Consolidation in Excel, it only uses the top row and left
    > > > > > > > column as references to buld the consolidation. Consequently, if you have
    > > > > > > > text in Col_A and Col_B and values in the other columns, you'll lose whatever
    > > > > > > > is in Col_B.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > There are other alternatives, but we (ok...I ) would need to know what the
    > > > > > > > rules are. You say "columns are not always the same". Since that means you
    > > > > > > > couldn't just copy/paste the ranges, how are you hoping to consolidate? Do
    > > > > > > > you want all possible column headings and the appropriate data to align under
    > > > > > > > each heading? Would there be any summarization of like items?
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > ***********
    > > > > > > > Regards,
    > > > > > > > Ron
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > XL2002, WinXP-Pro
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Hello,
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > I have to consolidate about 20 sheets from 20 differents workbooks (always
    > > > > > > > > the first one of a workbook).
    > > > > > > > > The amount of columns are not always the same, so i have used the
    > > > > > > > > "consolidation" option. The problem is that with the consolidation tool the
    > > > > > > > > text does not appear on the consolidate sheet.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > what did i do wrong? Or is there an other way to do so?
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > thanks in advance
    > > > > > > > > Florence
    > > > > > > > >


  9. #9
    Ron Coderre
    Guest

    RE: consolidation of tables in excel with text and figures

    OK...let's see what I can do to help.

    >>External table is not in the expected format<<

    Since access works with tables, your data must be in a table format. That
    means avoid blank column headings, spaces in column headings (MyCol....not:
    My Col), etc. Also, since it appeared that data columns might contain either
    numbers or text, I had you define each column as text.

    One way to help find the problem is to manually try to import the data into
    the MSA table:
    Start by opening your consolidation table
    Edit|Select All Records
    Press the [Delete] key to clear any data that might already be in the table

    File|Get External Data|Import
    Files of type: Excel files
    Select your file
    Click the [Import] button
    Select: Show Named Ranges
    Select a range name to import....Click [Next]
    Check: First rows contains Column Headings....Click [Next]
    Check: In an existing table...select your consolidation table....Click [Next]
    Click the [Finish] button

    If you run into any problems you can't figure out, note the error and post it.
    Repeat for each range

    >>i was not sure about the file name<<

    On the macro sheet, you enter the complete path of the file, including the
    name:
    example: "C:\myFolder\MyDataFile.xls"

    Since the sheets are in different workbooks, there will be a different file
    path and name for each line of the macro.

    Post your progress.

    Once you get comfortable with this method you'll see that it's extremely
    powerful. I've used it to consolidate literally hundreds of Excel tables in
    hardly any time at all.

    ***********
    Best Regards,
    Ron

    XL2002, WinXP-Pro


    "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:

    > Hi Ron,
    > thks a lot for your clear help !!
    > However, I have a problem when running the macro.
    > it says "External table is not in the expected format".
    >
    > So i was wondering what i did wrong ... (to be honest i don't know)
    > but i was wondering if the macro is retriving the data from all my workbook
    > or do i need to put allmy sheet in one excelworkbook?
    >
    > Also i was no sure about the file name: to you meant something like that:
    > "C:\MSLM test\Mars sheets for consolidation 1"
    > the "Mars Sheets for consolidation1" beeing the folder where all the excel
    > workbooks are.
    >
    > thks a lot
    > brgds,
    > florence
    >
    > "Ron Coderre" wrote:
    >
    > > OK....Here you go
    > >
    > > Note: There's a bit of prep work to set things up, but you only have to do
    > > this once.
    > >
    > > Using your example data
    > >
    > > First, create a range for each set of data
    > > Here's how:
    > > Select the data range
    > > Insert>Name>Define
    > > Names in Workbook: (enter a unique name here like: rngDataSht1)
    > > Refers to: (your already selected range)
    > > Click the [OK] button
    > > repeat for each sheet of data, changing the name each time:
    > > rngDataSht2, rngDataSht3, etc
    > >
    > > Save the file
    > >
    > > In MS Access (MSA), select the Tables tab
    > > Click the [New] button and use design mode
    > > Enter these fields (as text fields):
    > > Liner
    > > AB
    > > AC
    > > AD
    > > BC
    > > BD
    > >
    > > Save the table structure
    > > Name:tblConsolData
    > > (Do not set a primary key)
    > >
    > > Now, select the Macros tab
    > > Click the [New] button
    > > In the Action column select TransferSpreadsheet from the dropdown list.
    > > At the bottom of the window fill out the table as follows:
    > > Transfer type: Import
    > > Spreadsheet type: (use the default for Excel)
    > > Table Name: tblConsolData
    > > File Name: (Enter the complete path to the file, including the file name)
    > > Has Field Names: Yes
    > > Range: rngDataSht1 (or whatever name you used)
    > >
    > > Next, select the black triangle at the top of the window to select that row
    > > Edit|Copy
    > > Select the next row down
    > > Edit|Paste (to set commands to pull in the next data range)
    > > Switch to the bottom of the window and set the next range name to be pulled
    > > (Repeat for as many ranges as you need.)
    > >
    > > Save and close the macro sheet as: ConsolXLData
    > >
    > > To run the consolidation
    > > Double-click the ConsolXLData macro sheet
    > >
    > > To view the consolidated data, double click on the tblConsolData table
    > > (If you don't see your data...STOP and we'll figure out what needs to be
    > > adjusted)
    > > Save and close the Access database (I'll assume it's called MyData.mdb)
    > >
    > > Using Excel:
    > > Select a blank sheet
    > > Data|Import External Data|Import Data
    > > Browse to the MSA mdb file using the Look In dropdown at the top of the
    > > window.
    > > When you find the file, double-click it to see the list of tables
    > > Double-click the tblConsolData table
    > > Select where in the Excel file you want to imported data to start
    > > Click the [OK] button....That should bring in your consolidated data
    > >
    > > Any other time you want to refresh the data:
    > > Right-click on one of the column headings in the Excel data range
    > > Select Refresh Data
    > >
    > > Is that something you can work with?
    > >
    > > ***********
    > > Regards,
    > > Ron
    > >
    > > XL2002, WinXP-Pro
    > >
    > >
    > > "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:
    > >
    > > > Yes if it's possible to retrieve the consolidate table from access to excel
    > > > again... why not.
    > > > The problem is dat I've never open a doc in access, but if you say I don't
    > > > need a lot of experience in access I'm ready to do so...
    > > > Can you guide me?
    > > >
    > > > "Ron Coderre" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > The way your data is structured does not lend itself to being easily
    > > > > consolidated in Excel. Not that it couldn't be done but in this instance,
    > > > > Excel is just the wrong tool.
    > > > >
    > > > > Personally, I'd use MS Access to perform the consolidation.
    > > > > All you'd need to do is set up a table structure that contains all unique
    > > > > column headings, then import(append) each of the 20 data ranges to that
    > > > > table. Each Excel column of data would find its match in the MS Access table
    > > > > and automatically load there. To make the load process even easier you could
    > > > > quickly set up a macro sheet (not vba...a macro sheeet) to perform each load.
    > > > > In the MSA model I threw together using your sample data, the model
    > > > > consolidated everything just the way you want it in less than a blink.
    > > > >
    > > > > Even if you have very little experience with MS Access, that process would
    > > > > barely even touch its capabilities (not even queries). You'd only be using
    > > > > it as a staging ground.
    > > > >
    > > > > Is that something you'd consider?
    > > > >
    > > > > Regards,
    > > > > Ron
    > > > >
    > > > > ***********
    > > > > Regards,
    > > > > Ron
    > > > >
    > > > > XL2002, WinXP-Pro
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > > Hi Ron,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > thks for your answer.
    > > > > > i'll take a example to make it easier to explain.
    > > > > > sheet 1:
    > > > > > liner ab ac ad
    > > > > > 4 usd 234 456
    > > > > > 5 eur 234 456
    > > > > > 6 eur 234 456
    > > > > >
    > > > > > sheet 2
    > > > > > Liner ab bc bd
    > > > > > 1 741 789 258
    > > > > > 2 741 789 258
    > > > > > 3 741 789 258
    > > > > >
    > > > > > consolidate sheet should be:
    > > > > > Liner ab ac ad bc bd
    > > > > > 4 usd 234 456
    > > > > > 5 eur 234 456
    > > > > > 6 eur 234 456
    > > > > > 1 741 789 258
    > > > > > 2 741 789 258
    > > > > > 3 741 789 258
    > > > > >
    > > > > > As you said, i would like to have all possible column headings and the
    > > > > > appropriate data to align under each heading.
    > > > > > as you can see from the example none of the rows are the same, so one cell
    > > > > > can never contain more than one figure.
    > > > > > With the consolidation tool it is easy to do but my text doesn't appear as
    > > > > > you said in your answer..
    > > > > > The problem is that i would like to consolidate about 20 differents sheets
    > > > > > (approximatly A1:BZ35) and i would like to you an easy formule/tool because
    > > > > > it's something i would have to do continually in my job.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > It could be so nice if you could help be.
    > > > > > thks,
    > > > > > Flo
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "Ron Coderre" wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > When you use Data Consolidation in Excel, it only uses the top row and left
    > > > > > > column as references to buld the consolidation. Consequently, if you have
    > > > > > > text in Col_A and Col_B and values in the other columns, you'll lose whatever
    > > > > > > is in Col_B.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > There are other alternatives, but we (ok...I ) would need to know what the
    > > > > > > rules are. You say "columns are not always the same". Since that means you
    > > > > > > couldn't just copy/paste the ranges, how are you hoping to consolidate? Do
    > > > > > > you want all possible column headings and the appropriate data to align under
    > > > > > > each heading? Would there be any summarization of like items?
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > ***********
    > > > > > > Regards,
    > > > > > > Ron
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > XL2002, WinXP-Pro
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > "samenvoegen van sheets" wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Hello,
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > I have to consolidate about 20 sheets from 20 differents workbooks (always
    > > > > > > > the first one of a workbook).
    > > > > > > > The amount of columns are not always the same, so i have used the
    > > > > > > > "consolidation" option. The problem is that with the consolidation tool the
    > > > > > > > text does not appear on the consolidate sheet.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > what did i do wrong? Or is there an other way to do so?
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > thanks in advance
    > > > > > > > Florence
    > > > > > > >


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