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    Help with breaking ties

    Okay....here's my problem.

    Tag_Assignment.xlsx

    Here we have a list of players. At the start of play each player turns in a tag with a number on it and it gets recorded. After the round is over and the scores are recorded, they get re-assigned a new tag based on how they finished. (lowest score gets the lowest tag). I've made a small spreadsheet (attached) to show I'm currently trying to do it. I've used the rank function to rank the scores, as well as the tags, and then use index/match to pair the lowest score to the lowest tag and output the result. (Score Rank and Tag Rank columns would eventually be hidden as there's no need to see them once worksheet is functioning correctly.)

    The problem are ties. Ties are supposed to be broken by the lowest starting tag that the player had at the start of play. I've manually put what the corrected results should be on the right under the heading "Ties corrected".

    Any ideas on how to accomplish this? Also, I can't use macros or array formulas since I need to be able export this to Numbers for use on an iPad/iPhone.

    Thanks in advance!
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    Re: Help with breaking ties

    BTW, here's what it looks like if you don't want to download the spreadsheet.

    tag_assignment_image.jpg

    edit, nevermind. I can't get the image to appear, and I can't seem to delete the post.
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    Re: Help with breaking ties

    Hi, welcome to the forum

    Not really sure what answers you are expecting here, but this formula may help...
    Rank without missing numbers...=RANK($H5,$H$5:$H$25,1)+COUNTIF($H$5:H5,H5)-1
    where column H contains the data to be ranked
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    Re: Help with breaking ties

    That won't work. Using the countif will just rank the tie scores in the order that they appear on the sheet, not by the players starting tag number.
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    Re: Help with breaking ties

    so add then together?

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    Re: Help with breaking ties

    ^^ What do you mean? Can you elaborate?

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    Re: Help with breaking ties

    ok can you update your sample workbook with how you want the answer to look like?

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    Re: Help with breaking ties

    Sure. Here's how it should come out. However I just replaced the formula in the effected cells with the correct number.
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    Re: Help with breaking ties

    Anyone else have any ideas?

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    Re: Help with breaking ties

    Where are the numbers you have in "Ties corrected" supposed to go? What column should those numbers be in?

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    Re: Help with breaking ties

    That looks pretty much like the 1st table you uploaded? What would your end result look like?

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    Re: Help with breaking ties

    The 1st table was almost right. It's only the ties scores that have incorrect results in the Tag Out column. The image below shows the 3 results that are wrong (indicated by red arrows). The ties corrected column is only there to note what the correct values should have been for the tie scores (circled in red).
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    Re: Help with breaking ties

    Well, apparently the file won't upload correctly....I've tried it three times.

    Anyway, the only Tag Out values that are wrong are:
    Tom (65) - Should have received 15 not 8.
    Mike (72) - Should have received 18 not 16.
    Jimmy (65) - should have received be 10 not 8.

    Alex (65) and Luke (72) are correct. They got the lowest tag out of their respective ties, because they had the lowest starting tag going in.

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    Re: Help with breaking ties

    Quote Originally Posted by hoyasaxa215 View Post
    Where are the numbers you have in "Ties corrected" supposed to go? What column should those numbers be in?
    Tag Out Column. And I put the 10 and 8 in the ties corrected column up a row by accident. The 10 tag should be Jimmy's and the 8 should be Alex's.

    Maybe it would have been clearer if I just made the sheet showing what I wanted. 3 columns...(Tag In | Score | Tag Out). Period.

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