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    Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    I've got a fun one today!

    I have a macro-enabled workbook with a dropdown menu that pulls in staff names from another sheet. This sheet has many protected cells, but the cells where one would type in content to search for a staff member or click the dropdown menu are unlocked (I've checked.)

    When a user tries to type in a name or click the dropdown menu to search for a staff person, they run into one of these problems: either they are unable to type a name (they click the box for searching a name and can't type anything) or they click the dropdown arrow and instead of seeing a full list of staff names, they see one small empty box.

    The reason this is happening is because when a user clicks on what should be cells B3 or C3, neither cell is actually selected. When the user uses an the arrows on their keyboard to get to the correct cell, they are then able to click into it and type in content, access the dropdown menu... But they can't just click onto the cells directly.

    What can I do to fix this and enable people to directly edit these cells?

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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    Happy to provide pictures!

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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    This really depends on whats causing the issue.

    Are the drop downs data validation or are they controls?

    Are the drops downs filled via a formula or a macro?

    Are the people opening the file with Macro's enabled?

    Are they getting (downloading) the file from a network share, site like SharePoint or dropbox, or a website? If so, right click on the downloaded file, goto properties and look at the general tab. If there is an unlock button click it. This may resolve the problem.

    Does it work properly for some people and not others? If so do they have different versions of Office/Windows?

    Has anyone tried opening in safe mode? Do the people with the problems have any addins activated (COM or Excel)? If so try disabling them and see if it works. Its not uncommon for addins to interfere with normal operations.

    If these people create a new blank file with a similar drop down does it work properly? Test a simple file with the same basic functionality to determine if its the file or a software/OS issue.

    Any information or samples you can provide would certainly help us help you.
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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    Thanks! Here are answers:

    The dropdowns were created via data validation (List, with in-cell dropdowns, set up to ignore blanks).
    They do not populate via macro- they simply have the source of a specific range on another sheet in the workbook for the names. The dropdown itself is working just fine and populating properly- the problem is that people can't click into the cell with the dropdown without using the arrows on their keyboard to navigate to the correct cell.

    People are opening the file with macros enabled- again, the macros are working, all the content is pulling- people just can't use their cursor to click on the necessary cells.

    We're downloading files directly via email.

    No one can directly click on the cells, even with different versions of office.

    We have several different versions of the same spreadsheet and the others work, just not this one.

    I can't replicate the problem elsewhere, and the spreadsheet that I'm using has some proprietary info that I can't share.
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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    Cell Problem.PNG

    For more of a visual, if my cursor clicks C4, and then I try to click the dropdown icon, nothing will populate. But if I use my arrows to navigate to B3 or C3, suddenly the dropdown works and I can type in new names.

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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    Jamie, welcome

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    Also, To best describe or illustrate your problem you would be better off attaching a dummy workbook. The workbook should contain the same structure and some dummy data of the same type as the type you have in your real workbook - so, if a cell contains numbers & letters in this format abc-123 then that should be reflected in the dummy workbook.

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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    Hi, FDibbins!

    Thanks for the note, and for editing my post.

    The problem is that I can't replicate the issue in another workbook- and the workbook I have is pretty complicated, so clearing it of identifying information without breaking it is going to be almost impossible (I know this makes helping me really difficult).

    I was hoping this problem was more common, so that a description of the issue would suffice. Any potential ideas?

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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    Are you sure that this IS a dropdown (Data validation, and not a combo box or active-x control?
    If you click the cell, then click Data/Data Validation, what happens?

    (any chance of just copying that sheet to another file, then sharing that?)

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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    Further to what Ford has said, you can delete non-essential data and change names to Mickey Mouse, etc.
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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    If it comes from email, its possible the file is locked, did you try my directions to see if there was an unblock button? Right click the file | Properties | General tab. See the screenshot below

    unblock.jpg

    Have you ensured no addins are activated? Since its a data validation drop down and not backed by macros it should function in safe mode. If it does an addin is the likely cause. You would then in normal startup disable all addins and enable them one at a time until the issue resurfaces, pin pointing the specific add-in to blame

    From the sounds of it, it does seem that its an issue specific to this file as you have said you cannot replicate the issue (that doesnt mean it cant be a combination of something in the file not agreeing with some external factor like an addin). Make a copy of the file (to test) and try to simplify it as much as possible. Remove protections, halt macros that may run automatically (event driven) and see if any change gets it to work. Specifically, I would try unmerging the cell too, as from the image you posted it appears to be in a merged cell. I avoid merged cells like the plague...actually I'd rather have the plague than use a merged cell in my own files, they are nothing but problems for a visual effect that can be accomplished numerous other ways.

    You could try (on a copy!) open & repair as well, in case the issue is a matter of corruption in the file.

    Lets see where that gets us

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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    I created a cleared out version of the workbook- deleted all irrelevant sheets.

    The password for unprotecting is "shiny".

    The "Staff Performance" tab pulls from "StaffInfo", and is the page with the faulty dropdown.
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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    For me its the protection causing an issue it seems on the face of it.

    I opened the file and can click the drop down but its empty. Unprotect the sheet and the drop down works. Ill take a deeper look at it and see what else we can find

    EDIT: Maybe a little premature, see this gif:

    xl.gif

    I can click the cell of the drop down and only get the list when that cell is selected, otherwise the cell is empty
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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    Ah the real issue...

    I think there is some corruption in the workbook, likely caused by how the drop downs are being created. As you can see 7 exist. I think one is preventing selecting the cell when protection is turned on (note how the mouse pointer changes when you mouse over the drop down/cell with protection on). That generally happens with objects on sheet.

    What leads me to corruption being at play here, is you cannot select nor delete these 7 drop downs listed on the sheet. Further, #7 keeps hiding itself and if you click show, the drop down arrow displays in whatever cell you currently have selected. Also I am unable to delete any of these 7 by using clear data validation.

    Are these drops downs created by the macro?

    You said you have past versions of the file, does the selection pane show these extra objects?

    asdfasdf.PNG

    Ill see if I can dig up any more.

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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    Also, what method did you use to get the drop downs arrow to display even when the cell isnt selected? That could be a cause of the issues.

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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    How do I enable viewing of the selection pane?

    Also, I don't think the dropdowns are created by a macro- it looks like a simple list-type source validation based on a range.

    Edit:
    I didn't create this workbook from scratch- I've modified it a lot, but this page is one that I haven't messed with. I don't know why the dropdown arrow shows. In versions where the dropdown works properly, though, you're right- the dropdown arrow goes away.
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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    Its Home | Find & Select | Selection Pane.

    The file has some strange behavior. I think you are right about the VBA, from what I saw none of it creates the drop downs. I do however think whoever made them used some trickery to show the drop down arrow all the time or its just a symptom of corruption. I couldnt find any obvious signs of the typical methods to keep it showing all the time.

    Id say try an open and repair on a copy of the file if you have not already, see if it can fix the file.

    EDIT: look what happens when you zoom in on the sheet, this is with no change other than unlocking the sheet. You can distinctly see 2x drop down arrows and the one that functions is obviously different than the other.

    asdfasdf.PNG
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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    Thank you for all of your help!

    You hit the nail on the head- working versions of this workbook don't have any dropdowns labeled on the selection pane.

    I tried open and repair, but the problems persisted- it seems like clearing the selection pane might be the fix here. I just need to know how to do that...

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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    Calling this solved! I hid all other objects, then created the data validation again, and it worked. Thanks, everyone!

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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    Glad to hear you have a work around. I however would like to point out that you have simply hidden the symptoms, not cured the disease. I wasnt able to find a clear fix myself. The underlying xml that comprise the file show only a single drop down as expected, which is a very odd thing and sign of corruption. Continuing to use the file as is could lead to the file becoming more corrupt, less stable or even unable to be opened in the future. If you are unable to fix the file directly I would highly recommend moving to a new file/rebuilding a new file. It could end up saving you alot of time and headaches down the road.

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    Re: Excel Dropdown Blank [User Can't Click Cells with Dropdown]

    I needed a band aid, but I will rebuild based on an earlier version in my off time, to actually fix the problem.

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