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Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

  1. #1
    Martie1949
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    Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
    office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
    update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?


  2. #2
    JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    You never open a file on a floppy nor should you ever save a file back to a
    floppy.

    Insert the floppy, save the file to the hard disk, open the file (on the
    hard disk), make your changes, save the file (on the hard disk), close the
    file, copy the file back to the floppy, move on to the next office.

    Alternate solution - get a network and stay in your own office. ;-)
    --

    JoAnn Paules
    MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



    "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
    > office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
    > update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
    >




  3. #3
    CLR
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however, Floppy
    Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
    failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off using
    one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a floppy
    disk and are considerably more reliable.

    Vaya con Dios,
    Chuck, CABGx3


    "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
    > office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
    > update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
    >




  4. #4
    JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.

    --

    JoAnn Paules
    MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



    "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
    > Floppy
    > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
    > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
    > using
    > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
    > floppy
    > disk and are considerably more reliable.
    >
    > Vaya con Dios,
    > Chuck, CABGx3
    >
    >
    > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
    >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
    >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
    >>

    >
    >




  5. #5
    Don Guillett
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    ditto

    --
    Don Guillett
    SalesAid Software
    [email protected]
    "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
    >
    > --
    >
    > JoAnn Paules
    > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    >
    >
    >
    > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
    > > Floppy
    > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
    > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
    > > using
    > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
    > > floppy
    > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
    > >
    > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > >
    > >
    > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
    > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
    > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
    > >>

    > >
    > >

    >
    >




  6. #6
    CLR
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off of
    various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
    problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I suppose anything
    is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
    mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a solid state
    Jump Drive.

    A complex technical explanation will suffice.........

    Vaya con Dios,
    Chuck, CABGx3




    "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
    >
    > --
    >
    > JoAnn Paules
    > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    >
    >
    >
    > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
    > > Floppy
    > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
    > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
    > > using
    > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
    > > floppy
    > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
    > >
    > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > >
    > >
    > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
    > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
    > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
    > >>

    > >
    > >

    >
    >




  7. #7
    CLR
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    Don.........
    Please see my response to JoAnn

    Vaya con Dios,
    Chuck, CABGx3


    "Don Guillett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:#[email protected]...
    > ditto
    >
    > --
    > Don Guillett
    > SalesAid Software
    > [email protected]
    > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > JoAnn Paules
    > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
    > > > Floppy
    > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
    > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
    > > > using
    > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
    > > > floppy
    > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
    > > >
    > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > >

    news:[email protected]...
    > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office

    to
    > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will

    the
    > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
    > > >>
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >




  8. #8
    Dave Peterson
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're editing the file.

    And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots more real estate
    available on a harddrive.

    When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a new file. If
    that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to something like
    "backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad
    things can happen.

    And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the thumb drive is
    that you have a backup.

    (I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or even laptops.)



    CLR wrote:
    >
    > Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off of
    > various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
    > problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I suppose anything
    > is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
    > mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a solid state
    > Jump Drive.
    >
    > A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
    >
    > Vaya con Dios,
    > Chuck, CABGx3
    >
    > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > JoAnn Paules
    > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
    > > > Floppy
    > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
    > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
    > > > using
    > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
    > > > floppy
    > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
    > > >
    > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
    > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
    > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
    > > >>
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >


    --

    Dave Peterson

  9. #9
    Dave Peterson
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    When excel saves a file, it saves it as a new name first. If that works ok, it
    either deletes the original or
    renames it to something like "backup of book1.xlk".

    And then renames that temporary file to the original file name.

    If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad things can happen.

    Dave Peterson wrote:
    >
    > It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're editing the file.
    >
    > And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots more real estate
    > available on a harddrive.
    >
    > When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a new file. If
    > that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to something like
    > "backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad
    > things can happen.
    >
    > And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the thumb drive is
    > that you have a backup.
    >
    > (I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or even laptops.)
    >
    > CLR wrote:
    > >
    > > Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off of
    > > various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
    > > problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I suppose anything
    > > is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
    > > mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a solid state
    > > Jump Drive.
    > >
    > > A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
    > >
    > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > >
    > > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > JoAnn Paules
    > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
    > > > > Floppy
    > > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
    > > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
    > > > > using
    > > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
    > > > > floppy
    > > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
    > > > >
    > > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
    > > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
    > > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
    > > > >>
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    >
    > --
    >
    > Dave Peterson


    --

    Dave Peterson

  10. #10
    Dave Peterson
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    When excel saves a file, it saves it as a new name first. If that works ok, it
    either deletes the original or
    renames it to something like "backup of book1.xlk".

    And then renames that temporary file to the original file name.

    If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad things can happen.

    Dave Peterson wrote:
    >
    > It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're editing the file.
    >
    > And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots more real estate
    > available on a harddrive.
    >
    > When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a new file. If
    > that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to something like
    > "backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad
    > things can happen.
    >
    > And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the thumb drive is
    > that you have a backup.
    >
    > (I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or even laptops.)
    >
    > CLR wrote:
    > >
    > > Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off of
    > > various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
    > > problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I suppose anything
    > > is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
    > > mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a solid state
    > > Jump Drive.
    > >
    > > A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
    > >
    > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > >
    > > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > JoAnn Paules
    > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
    > > > > Floppy
    > > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
    > > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
    > > > > using
    > > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
    > > > > floppy
    > > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
    > > > >
    > > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
    > > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
    > > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
    > > > >>
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    >
    > --
    >
    > Dave Peterson


    --

    Dave Peterson

  11. #11
    Dave Peterson
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're editing the file.

    And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots more real estate
    available on a harddrive.

    When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a new file. If
    that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to something like
    "backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad
    things can happen.

    And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the thumb drive is
    that you have a backup.

    (I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or even laptops.)



    CLR wrote:
    >
    > Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off of
    > various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
    > problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I suppose anything
    > is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
    > mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a solid state
    > Jump Drive.
    >
    > A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
    >
    > Vaya con Dios,
    > Chuck, CABGx3
    >
    > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > JoAnn Paules
    > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
    > > > Floppy
    > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
    > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
    > > > using
    > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
    > > > floppy
    > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
    > > >
    > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
    > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
    > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
    > > >>
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >


    --

    Dave Peterson

  12. #12
    CLR
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    Don.........
    Please see my response to JoAnn

    Vaya con Dios,
    Chuck, CABGx3


    "Don Guillett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:#[email protected]...
    > ditto
    >
    > --
    > Don Guillett
    > SalesAid Software
    > [email protected]
    > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > JoAnn Paules
    > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
    > > > Floppy
    > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
    > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
    > > > using
    > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
    > > > floppy
    > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
    > > >
    > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > >

    news:[email protected]...
    > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office

    to
    > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will

    the
    > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
    > > >>
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >




  13. #13
    CLR
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off of
    various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
    problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I suppose anything
    is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
    mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a solid state
    Jump Drive.

    A complex technical explanation will suffice.........

    Vaya con Dios,
    Chuck, CABGx3




    "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
    >
    > --
    >
    > JoAnn Paules
    > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    >
    >
    >
    > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
    > > Floppy
    > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
    > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
    > > using
    > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
    > > floppy
    > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
    > >
    > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > >
    > >
    > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
    > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
    > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
    > >>

    > >
    > >

    >
    >




  14. #14
    CLR
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    Uh-huh, uh-huh, and if a hard drive runs out of space, even more "bader"
    things will happen, and that's a "for-sure".........but as with anything
    else, the JumpDrive must be used within the parameters that exist for it.
    NO memory device operates reliably when pushed past it's limit, Hard Drives
    included. The JumpDrive is a very effective way of moving files around from
    office to office, especially when the offices are not even with the same
    company and are not hooked together with a network.......or the network has
    so many "MIS monitoring features" on it the computers will hardly run
    anyway. Like I said, I have been doing it with 4 different JumpDrives for
    a couple of years and no problems........that's not personal opinion, that's
    actual FACT.....and the best part is, NOone has access to those files but
    ME. As for losing a JumpDrive, or the keys to your car, .......well, thats
    not really a legitimate reason for not using JumpDrives or cars either one.
    The OP wanted to know about moving files from computer to computer with a
    physical device that he could take with him. I've told him of my actual
    experience in doing so, and what I think is the best way to do that.

    Vaya con Dios,
    Chuck, CABGx3




    "Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > When excel saves a file, it saves it as a new name first. If that works

    ok, it
    > either deletes the original or
    > renames it to something like "backup of book1.xlk".
    >
    > And then renames that temporary file to the original file name.
    >
    > If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad things can happen.
    >
    > Dave Peterson wrote:
    > >
    > > It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're editing the

    file.
    > >
    > > And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots more real

    estate
    > > available on a harddrive.
    > >
    > > When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a new

    file. If
    > > that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to something

    like
    > > "backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb drive,

    then bad
    > > things can happen.
    > >
    > > And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the thumb

    drive is
    > > that you have a backup.
    > >
    > > (I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or even

    laptops.)
    > >
    > > CLR wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off of
    > > > various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
    > > > problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I suppose

    anything
    > > > is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
    > > > mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a solid

    state
    > > > Jump Drive.
    > > >
    > > > A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
    > > >
    > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > >
    > > > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing

    it.
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > >
    > > > > JoAnn Paules
    > > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is

    possible.........however,
    > > > > > Floppy
    > > > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently

    subject to
    > > > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better

    off
    > > > > > using
    > > > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data

    than a
    > > > > > floppy
    > > > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > >

    news:[email protected]...
    > > > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from

    office to
    > > > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or

    will the
    > > > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >

    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > Dave Peterson

    >
    > --
    >
    > Dave Peterson




  15. #15
    Dave Peterson
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    I agree with almost everything you wrote.

    Except for the pushed to the limit portion.

    If have a drive with 5 meg available and open a 4 meg file, I may assume that
    when I save it (with no changes even), it'll fit. But that's not the way excel
    works. This can cause more heartache than it's worth.

    I know the most important file I had at work was saved to my home drive on a
    network share, copied to a common network share (twice--once for use and once
    for common backup).

    I'd save a copy on my harddrive and put a copy on two thumb drives (so I could
    create a copy on my harddrive at home, too).

    I'm not sure I'd want to keep one copy of anything important--including on a
    jump drive.

    It was a pain making backups and I don't recall any failure of any type, but I
    slept better!

    ps. lots of people only had trouble once when they save to floppies, too. But
    once is more than enough.

    Dave "belt and suspenders" Peterson

    CLR wrote:
    >
    > Uh-huh, uh-huh, and if a hard drive runs out of space, even more "bader"
    > things will happen, and that's a "for-sure".........but as with anything
    > else, the JumpDrive must be used within the parameters that exist for it.
    > NO memory device operates reliably when pushed past it's limit, Hard Drives
    > included. The JumpDrive is a very effective way of moving files around from
    > office to office, especially when the offices are not even with the same
    > company and are not hooked together with a network.......or the network has
    > so many "MIS monitoring features" on it the computers will hardly run
    > anyway. Like I said, I have been doing it with 4 different JumpDrives for
    > a couple of years and no problems........that's not personal opinion, that's
    > actual FACT.....and the best part is, NOone has access to those files but
    > ME. As for losing a JumpDrive, or the keys to your car, .......well, thats
    > not really a legitimate reason for not using JumpDrives or cars either one.
    > The OP wanted to know about moving files from computer to computer with a
    > physical device that he could take with him. I've told him of my actual
    > experience in doing so, and what I think is the best way to do that.
    >
    > Vaya con Dios,
    > Chuck, CABGx3
    >
    > "Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > When excel saves a file, it saves it as a new name first. If that works

    > ok, it
    > > either deletes the original or
    > > renames it to something like "backup of book1.xlk".
    > >
    > > And then renames that temporary file to the original file name.
    > >
    > > If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad things can happen.
    > >
    > > Dave Peterson wrote:
    > > >
    > > > It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're editing the

    > file.
    > > >
    > > > And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots more real

    > estate
    > > > available on a harddrive.
    > > >
    > > > When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a new

    > file. If
    > > > that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to something

    > like
    > > > "backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb drive,

    > then bad
    > > > things can happen.
    > > >
    > > > And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the thumb

    > drive is
    > > > that you have a backup.
    > > >
    > > > (I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or even

    > laptops.)
    > > >
    > > > CLR wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off of
    > > > > various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
    > > > > problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I suppose

    > anything
    > > > > is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
    > > > > mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a solid

    > state
    > > > > Jump Drive.
    > > > >
    > > > > A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
    > > > >
    > > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > > >
    > > > > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing

    > it.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --
    > > > > >
    > > > > > JoAnn Paules
    > > > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is

    > possible.........however,
    > > > > > > Floppy
    > > > > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently

    > subject to
    > > > > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better

    > off
    > > > > > > using
    > > > > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data

    > than a
    > > > > > > floppy
    > > > > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > > >

    > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from

    > office to
    > > > > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or

    > will the
    > > > > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
    > > > > > >>
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > Dave Peterson

    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > Dave Peterson


    --

    Dave Peterson

  16. #16
    CLR
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    LOLOL...........I hear ya Dave. I would never deny the importance of
    backups. The way I use my JumpDrive is to change the name/rev of the file
    every time I work on it, so I constantly have current "backups". Then when
    I'm done and the program works, I remove the old versions. This technique
    has saved my bacon on numerous occasions when "things went wrong".......I
    could go back in versions until I found one where that feature still worked
    and then compare it to the next version to find the trouble. I learned this
    the hard way from working on a sleazy network that failed several times a
    day. As for "pushed to the limit", I usually keep about 25% of my jump
    drives with a directory of music, so I can drown out the local chatter/noise
    wherever I'm working.........when I get close to the limit on that drive, I
    just dump the music directory and that gives me plenty of space
    left.......then when I have time I can archive and clean up the drive. I
    agree, with smaller drives it takes a bit of "management", to keep from
    maxing them out considering the way Excel saves files, but JumpDrives sure
    are convienient for personal security, and for transferring files from one
    computer to another. I also keep my personal.xls there as well as various
    Add-ins, and even an Image-editing program that I might need when I go from
    location to location.......I really wish I could set up the entire Office
    Suite on a JumpDrive, but haven't been able to figure out a way to do that
    yet.


    Vaya con Dios,
    Chuck, CABGx3




    "Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I agree with almost everything you wrote.
    >
    > Except for the pushed to the limit portion.
    >
    > If have a drive with 5 meg available and open a 4 meg file, I may assume

    that
    > when I save it (with no changes even), it'll fit. But that's not the way

    excel
    > works. This can cause more heartache than it's worth.
    >
    > I know the most important file I had at work was saved to my home drive on

    a
    > network share, copied to a common network share (twice--once for use and

    once
    > for common backup).
    >
    > I'd save a copy on my harddrive and put a copy on two thumb drives (so I

    could
    > create a copy on my harddrive at home, too).
    >
    > I'm not sure I'd want to keep one copy of anything important--including on

    a
    > jump drive.
    >
    > It was a pain making backups and I don't recall any failure of any type,

    but I
    > slept better!
    >
    > ps. lots of people only had trouble once when they save to floppies, too.

    But
    > once is more than enough.
    >
    > Dave "belt and suspenders" Peterson
    >
    > CLR wrote:
    > >
    > > Uh-huh, uh-huh, and if a hard drive runs out of space, even more "bader"
    > > things will happen, and that's a "for-sure".........but as with anything
    > > else, the JumpDrive must be used within the parameters that exist for

    it.
    > > NO memory device operates reliably when pushed past it's limit, Hard

    Drives
    > > included. The JumpDrive is a very effective way of moving files around

    from
    > > office to office, especially when the offices are not even with the same
    > > company and are not hooked together with a network.......or the network

    has
    > > so many "MIS monitoring features" on it the computers will hardly run
    > > anyway. Like I said, I have been doing it with 4 different JumpDrives

    for
    > > a couple of years and no problems........that's not personal opinion,

    that's
    > > actual FACT.....and the best part is, NOone has access to those files

    but
    > > ME. As for losing a JumpDrive, or the keys to your car, .......well,

    thats
    > > not really a legitimate reason for not using JumpDrives or cars either

    one.
    > > The OP wanted to know about moving files from computer to computer with

    a
    > > physical device that he could take with him. I've told him of my actual
    > > experience in doing so, and what I think is the best way to do that.
    > >
    > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > >
    > > "Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > When excel saves a file, it saves it as a new name first. If that

    works
    > > ok, it
    > > > either deletes the original or
    > > > renames it to something like "backup of book1.xlk".
    > > >
    > > > And then renames that temporary file to the original file name.
    > > >
    > > > If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad things can

    happen.
    > > >
    > > > Dave Peterson wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're editing

    the
    > > file.
    > > > >
    > > > > And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots more

    real
    > > estate
    > > > > available on a harddrive.
    > > > >
    > > > > When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a new

    > > file. If
    > > > > that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to

    something
    > > like
    > > > > "backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb drive,

    > > then bad
    > > > > things can happen.
    > > > >
    > > > > And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the thumb

    > > drive is
    > > > > that you have a backup.
    > > > >
    > > > > (I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or even

    > > laptops.)
    > > > >
    > > > > CLR wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off

    of
    > > > > > various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
    > > > > > problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I

    suppose
    > > anything
    > > > > > is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
    > > > > > mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a

    solid
    > > state
    > > > > > Jump Drive.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before

    changing
    > > it.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > --
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > JoAnn Paules
    > > > > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is

    > > possible.........however,
    > > > > > > > Floppy
    > > > > > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently

    > > subject to
    > > > > > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much

    better
    > > off
    > > > > > > > using
    > > > > > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data

    > > than a
    > > > > > > > floppy
    > > > > > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > > > >

    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from

    > > office to
    > > > > > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can

    or
    > > will the
    > > > > > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
    > > > > > > >>
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > >
    > > > > Dave Peterson
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > Dave Peterson

    >
    > --
    >
    > Dave Peterson




  17. #17
    Martie1949
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    Thank you all for your comments and advice. I can see what I was trying to
    do is a bit risky, so I'll take your advice and go another route. Thanks to
    all!!!!!!!!!!!!!Martie


  18. #18
    JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    There's nothing wrong with taking a file on a floppy from location to
    location. You just need to make sure that when you edit it, it's been copied
    to the target computer, not just on your portable media.

    (I'll bet you never expected *this* kind of response to what seemed like
    such a simple question, did you?)

    --

    JoAnn Paules
    MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



    "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Thank you all for your comments and advice. I can see what I was trying
    > to
    > do is a bit risky, so I'll take your advice and go another route. Thanks
    > to
    > all!!!!!!!!!!!!!Martie
    >




  19. #19
    Ragdyer
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    I really think that the *literal*, verbatim subject line of this thread must
    be answered as a *NO*.

    You *save* to the HD.
    You then *copy* to the floppy (hey!, that rhymes<g>), using Windows
    Explorer!

    Although for years I've actually calculated and revised WBs *on* a Zip
    drive, but I don't consider Zips as a floppy.
    And then again, *always* making sure that the Zip capacity was at least
    double the size of the WB.
    --
    Regards,

    RD

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Please keep all correspondence within the NewsGroup, so all may benefit !
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > There's nothing wrong with taking a file on a floppy from location to
    > location. You just need to make sure that when you edit it, it's been

    copied
    > to the target computer, not just on your portable media.
    >
    > (I'll bet you never expected *this* kind of response to what seemed like
    > such a simple question, did you?)
    >
    > --
    >
    > JoAnn Paules
    > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    >
    >
    >
    > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Thank you all for your comments and advice. I can see what I was trying
    > > to
    > > do is a bit risky, so I'll take your advice and go another route. Thanks
    > > to
    > > all!!!!!!!!!!!!!Martie
    > >

    >
    >



  20. #20
    CLR
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    Since technically it is possible to open an Excel File, from wherever, and
    change it, and actually save that changed file to a Floppy Disk...........,
    the correct answer to the *literal*, verbatim subject line of this thread is
    actually YES!!!

    Whether it "should" be done that way or not, is a matter of personal
    opinion.

    Vaya con Dios,
    Chuck, CABGx3




    "Ragdyer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I really think that the *literal*, verbatim subject line of this thread

    must
    > be answered as a *NO*.
    >
    > You *save* to the HD.
    > You then *copy* to the floppy (hey!, that rhymes<g>), using Windows
    > Explorer!
    >
    > Although for years I've actually calculated and revised WBs *on* a Zip
    > drive, but I don't consider Zips as a floppy.
    > And then again, *always* making sure that the Zip capacity was at least
    > double the size of the WB.
    > --
    > Regards,
    >
    > RD
    >
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------

    -
    > Please keep all correspondence within the NewsGroup, so all may benefit !
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------

    -
    > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > There's nothing wrong with taking a file on a floppy from location to
    > > location. You just need to make sure that when you edit it, it's been

    > copied
    > > to the target computer, not just on your portable media.
    > >
    > > (I'll bet you never expected *this* kind of response to what seemed like
    > > such a simple question, did you?)
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > JoAnn Paules
    > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Thank you all for your comments and advice. I can see what I was

    trying
    > > > to
    > > > do is a bit risky, so I'll take your advice and go another route.

    Thanks
    > > > to
    > > > all!!!!!!!!!!!!!Martie
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >




  21. #21
    Ragdyer
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    Shoulda - Woulda - Coulda - You're right - I stand corrected!<g>
    --
    Regards,

    RD

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Please keep all correspondence within the NewsGroup, so all may benefit !
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:%[email protected]...
    > Since technically it is possible to open an Excel File, from wherever, and
    > change it, and actually save that changed file to a Floppy

    Disk...........,
    > the correct answer to the *literal*, verbatim subject line of this thread

    is
    > actually YES!!!
    >
    > Whether it "should" be done that way or not, is a matter of personal
    > opinion.
    >
    > Vaya con Dios,
    > Chuck, CABGx3
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "Ragdyer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I really think that the *literal*, verbatim subject line of this thread

    > must
    > > be answered as a *NO*.
    > >
    > > You *save* to the HD.
    > > You then *copy* to the floppy (hey!, that rhymes<g>), using Windows
    > > Explorer!
    > >
    > > Although for years I've actually calculated and revised WBs *on* a Zip
    > > drive, but I don't consider Zips as a floppy.
    > > And then again, *always* making sure that the Zip capacity was at least
    > > double the size of the WB.
    > > --
    > > Regards,
    > >
    > > RD
    > >

    >
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > -
    > > Please keep all correspondence within the NewsGroup, so all may benefit

    !
    >
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > -
    > > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > There's nothing wrong with taking a file on a floppy from location to
    > > > location. You just need to make sure that when you edit it, it's been

    > > copied
    > > > to the target computer, not just on your portable media.
    > > >
    > > > (I'll bet you never expected *this* kind of response to what seemed

    like
    > > > such a simple question, did you?)
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > JoAnn Paules
    > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > >

    news:[email protected]...
    > > > > Thank you all for your comments and advice. I can see what I was

    > trying
    > > > > to
    > > > > do is a bit risky, so I'll take your advice and go another route.

    > Thanks
    > > > > to
    > > > > all!!!!!!!!!!!!!Martie
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    > >

    >
    >



  22. #22
    Dave Peterson
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    You may want to include a copy of your xlb file, too.

    I actually kept my development names as:
    nameofworkbook_yyyy_mm_dd.xls

    But I'd rename the general copy when I put it in that location.

    (I actually kept a giant .zip file of almost all the versions for historical
    purposes. You never know when you're gonna have to prove to someone that it
    wasn't a program error <vbg>.)



    CLR wrote:
    >
    > LOLOL...........I hear ya Dave. I would never deny the importance of
    > backups. The way I use my JumpDrive is to change the name/rev of the file
    > every time I work on it, so I constantly have current "backups". Then when
    > I'm done and the program works, I remove the old versions. This technique
    > has saved my bacon on numerous occasions when "things went wrong".......I
    > could go back in versions until I found one where that feature still worked
    > and then compare it to the next version to find the trouble. I learned this
    > the hard way from working on a sleazy network that failed several times a
    > day. As for "pushed to the limit", I usually keep about 25% of my jump
    > drives with a directory of music, so I can drown out the local chatter/noise
    > wherever I'm working.........when I get close to the limit on that drive, I
    > just dump the music directory and that gives me plenty of space
    > left.......then when I have time I can archive and clean up the drive. I
    > agree, with smaller drives it takes a bit of "management", to keep from
    > maxing them out considering the way Excel saves files, but JumpDrives sure
    > are convienient for personal security, and for transferring files from one
    > computer to another. I also keep my personal.xls there as well as various
    > Add-ins, and even an Image-editing program that I might need when I go from
    > location to location.......I really wish I could set up the entire Office
    > Suite on a JumpDrive, but haven't been able to figure out a way to do that
    > yet.
    >
    > Vaya con Dios,
    > Chuck, CABGx3
    >
    > "Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I agree with almost everything you wrote.
    > >
    > > Except for the pushed to the limit portion.
    > >
    > > If have a drive with 5 meg available and open a 4 meg file, I may assume

    > that
    > > when I save it (with no changes even), it'll fit. But that's not the way

    > excel
    > > works. This can cause more heartache than it's worth.
    > >
    > > I know the most important file I had at work was saved to my home drive on

    > a
    > > network share, copied to a common network share (twice--once for use and

    > once
    > > for common backup).
    > >
    > > I'd save a copy on my harddrive and put a copy on two thumb drives (so I

    > could
    > > create a copy on my harddrive at home, too).
    > >
    > > I'm not sure I'd want to keep one copy of anything important--including on

    > a
    > > jump drive.
    > >
    > > It was a pain making backups and I don't recall any failure of any type,

    > but I
    > > slept better!
    > >
    > > ps. lots of people only had trouble once when they save to floppies, too.

    > But
    > > once is more than enough.
    > >
    > > Dave "belt and suspenders" Peterson
    > >
    > > CLR wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Uh-huh, uh-huh, and if a hard drive runs out of space, even more "bader"
    > > > things will happen, and that's a "for-sure".........but as with anything
    > > > else, the JumpDrive must be used within the parameters that exist for

    > it.
    > > > NO memory device operates reliably when pushed past it's limit, Hard

    > Drives
    > > > included. The JumpDrive is a very effective way of moving files around

    > from
    > > > office to office, especially when the offices are not even with the same
    > > > company and are not hooked together with a network.......or the network

    > has
    > > > so many "MIS monitoring features" on it the computers will hardly run
    > > > anyway. Like I said, I have been doing it with 4 different JumpDrives

    > for
    > > > a couple of years and no problems........that's not personal opinion,

    > that's
    > > > actual FACT.....and the best part is, NOone has access to those files

    > but
    > > > ME. As for losing a JumpDrive, or the keys to your car, .......well,

    > thats
    > > > not really a legitimate reason for not using JumpDrives or cars either

    > one.
    > > > The OP wanted to know about moving files from computer to computer with

    > a
    > > > physical device that he could take with him. I've told him of my actual
    > > > experience in doing so, and what I think is the best way to do that.
    > > >
    > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > >
    > > > "Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > When excel saves a file, it saves it as a new name first. If that

    > works
    > > > ok, it
    > > > > either deletes the original or
    > > > > renames it to something like "backup of book1.xlk".
    > > > >
    > > > > And then renames that temporary file to the original file name.
    > > > >
    > > > > If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad things can

    > happen.
    > > > >
    > > > > Dave Peterson wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're editing

    > the
    > > > file.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots more

    > real
    > > > estate
    > > > > > available on a harddrive.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a new
    > > > file. If
    > > > > > that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to

    > something
    > > > like
    > > > > > "backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb drive,
    > > > then bad
    > > > > > things can happen.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the thumb
    > > > drive is
    > > > > > that you have a backup.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > (I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or even
    > > > laptops.)
    > > > > >
    > > > > > CLR wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off

    > of
    > > > > > > various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
    > > > > > > problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I

    > suppose
    > > > anything
    > > > > > > is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
    > > > > > > mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a

    > solid
    > > > state
    > > > > > > Jump Drive.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before

    > changing
    > > > it.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > --
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > JoAnn Paules
    > > > > > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is
    > > > possible.........however,
    > > > > > > > > Floppy
    > > > > > > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently
    > > > subject to
    > > > > > > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much

    > better
    > > > off
    > > > > > > > > using
    > > > > > > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data
    > > > than a
    > > > > > > > > floppy
    > > > > > > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > > > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from
    > > > office to
    > > > > > > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can

    > or
    > > > will the
    > > > > > > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
    > > > > > > > >>
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Dave Peterson
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > >
    > > > > Dave Peterson

    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > Dave Peterson


    --

    Dave Peterson

  23. #23
    CLR
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    Yeah, good idea, thanks Dave........I never messed with the .xlb file
    before........thanks for the suggestion.
    I also keep all the old versions as I progress along with a programs design.
    I use dates, andRev numbers and letters, anything to make it different and
    consecutive. I even save when someone comes up and interrupts me. I've had
    several occasions where some change the Client had me make caused some
    feature to take a dump, and I just go back to where I have two consecutive
    saves, one in which the feature worked and the next in which it don't and
    then I can usually find out by looking at them what I did
    wrong.........saved my bacon a number of times.........

    Vaya con Dios,
    Chuck CABGx3



    "Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > You may want to include a copy of your xlb file, too.
    >
    > I actually kept my development names as:
    > nameofworkbook_yyyy_mm_dd.xls
    >
    > But I'd rename the general copy when I put it in that location.
    >
    > (I actually kept a giant .zip file of almost all the versions for

    historical
    > purposes. You never know when you're gonna have to prove to someone that

    it
    > wasn't a program error <vbg>.)
    >
    >
    >
    > CLR wrote:
    > >
    > > LOLOL...........I hear ya Dave. I would never deny the importance of
    > > backups. The way I use my JumpDrive is to change the name/rev of the

    file
    > > every time I work on it, so I constantly have current "backups". Then

    when
    > > I'm done and the program works, I remove the old versions. This

    technique
    > > has saved my bacon on numerous occasions when "things went

    wrong".......I
    > > could go back in versions until I found one where that feature still

    worked
    > > and then compare it to the next version to find the trouble. I learned

    this
    > > the hard way from working on a sleazy network that failed several times

    a
    > > day. As for "pushed to the limit", I usually keep about 25% of my jump
    > > drives with a directory of music, so I can drown out the local

    chatter/noise
    > > wherever I'm working.........when I get close to the limit on that

    drive, I
    > > just dump the music directory and that gives me plenty of space
    > > left.......then when I have time I can archive and clean up the drive.

    I
    > > agree, with smaller drives it takes a bit of "management", to keep from
    > > maxing them out considering the way Excel saves files, but JumpDrives

    sure
    > > are convienient for personal security, and for transferring files from

    one
    > > computer to another. I also keep my personal.xls there as well as

    various
    > > Add-ins, and even an Image-editing program that I might need when I go

    from
    > > location to location.......I really wish I could set up the entire

    Office
    > > Suite on a JumpDrive, but haven't been able to figure out a way to do

    that
    > > yet.
    > >
    > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > >
    > > "Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > I agree with almost everything you wrote.
    > > >
    > > > Except for the pushed to the limit portion.
    > > >
    > > > If have a drive with 5 meg available and open a 4 meg file, I may

    assume
    > > that
    > > > when I save it (with no changes even), it'll fit. But that's not the

    way
    > > excel
    > > > works. This can cause more heartache than it's worth.
    > > >
    > > > I know the most important file I had at work was saved to my home

    drive on
    > > a
    > > > network share, copied to a common network share (twice--once for use

    and
    > > once
    > > > for common backup).
    > > >
    > > > I'd save a copy on my harddrive and put a copy on two thumb drives (so

    I
    > > could
    > > > create a copy on my harddrive at home, too).
    > > >
    > > > I'm not sure I'd want to keep one copy of anything

    important--including on
    > > a
    > > > jump drive.
    > > >
    > > > It was a pain making backups and I don't recall any failure of any

    type,
    > > but I
    > > > slept better!
    > > >
    > > > ps. lots of people only had trouble once when they save to floppies,

    too.
    > > But
    > > > once is more than enough.
    > > >
    > > > Dave "belt and suspenders" Peterson
    > > >
    > > > CLR wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > Uh-huh, uh-huh, and if a hard drive runs out of space, even more

    "bader"
    > > > > things will happen, and that's a "for-sure".........but as with

    anything
    > > > > else, the JumpDrive must be used within the parameters that exist

    for
    > > it.
    > > > > NO memory device operates reliably when pushed past it's limit, Hard

    > > Drives
    > > > > included. The JumpDrive is a very effective way of moving files

    around
    > > from
    > > > > office to office, especially when the offices are not even with the

    same
    > > > > company and are not hooked together with a network.......or the

    network
    > > has
    > > > > so many "MIS monitoring features" on it the computers will hardly

    run
    > > > > anyway. Like I said, I have been doing it with 4 different

    JumpDrives
    > > for
    > > > > a couple of years and no problems........that's not personal

    opinion,
    > > that's
    > > > > actual FACT.....and the best part is, NOone has access to those

    files
    > > but
    > > > > ME. As for losing a JumpDrive, or the keys to your car,

    ........well,
    > > thats
    > > > > not really a legitimate reason for not using JumpDrives or cars

    either
    > > one.
    > > > > The OP wanted to know about moving files from computer to computer

    with
    > > a
    > > > > physical device that he could take with him. I've told him of my

    actual
    > > > > experience in doing so, and what I think is the best way to do that.
    > > > >
    > > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > > >
    > > > > "Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > When excel saves a file, it saves it as a new name first. If that

    > > works
    > > > > ok, it
    > > > > > either deletes the original or
    > > > > > renames it to something like "backup of book1.xlk".
    > > > > >
    > > > > > And then renames that temporary file to the original file name.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad things can

    > > happen.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Dave Peterson wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're

    editing
    > > the
    > > > > file.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots

    more
    > > real
    > > > > estate
    > > > > > > available on a harddrive.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a

    new
    > > > > file. If
    > > > > > > that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to

    > > something
    > > > > like
    > > > > > > "backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb

    drive,
    > > > > then bad
    > > > > > > things can happen.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the

    thumb
    > > > > drive is
    > > > > > > that you have a backup.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > (I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or

    even
    > > > > laptops.)
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > CLR wrote:
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working

    off
    > > of
    > > > > > > > various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
    > > > > > > > problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I

    > > suppose
    > > > > anything
    > > > > > > > is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working

    off a
    > > > > > > > mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a

    > > solid
    > > > > state
    > > > > > > > Jump Drive.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in

    message
    > > > > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before

    > > changing
    > > > > it.
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > --
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > JoAnn Paules
    > > > > > > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is
    > > > > possible.........however,
    > > > > > > > > > Floppy
    > > > > > > > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore

    inherently
    > > > > subject to
    > > > > > > > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be

    much
    > > better
    > > > > off
    > > > > > > > > > using
    > > > > > > > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more

    data
    > > > > than a
    > > > > > > > > > floppy
    > > > > > > > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > > > > > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > >

    news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go

    from
    > > > > office to
    > > > > > > > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense

    can
    > > or
    > > > > will the
    > > > > > > > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the

    changes?
    > > > > > > > > >>
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > --
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Dave Peterson
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Dave Peterson
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > Dave Peterson

    >
    > --
    >
    > Dave Peterson




  24. #24
    CLR
    Guest

    Re: Can I save changes to excel on a floppy?

    No prob RD..........I know how it is with you "younger guys" <VBG>

    I also used to work off of ZipDisks too, but switched to JumpDrives because
    hardly anyone had ZipDrives where I went......in fact, I've even worked off
    of Floppies like the OP asked about, a very very loooooong time ago, in a
    land far away.

    Vaya con Dios,
    Chuck, CABGx3



    "Ragdyer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Shoulda - Woulda - Coulda - You're right - I stand corrected!<g>
    > --
    > Regards,
    >
    > RD
    >
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------

    -
    > Please keep all correspondence within the NewsGroup, so all may benefit !
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------

    -
    > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:%[email protected]...
    > > Since technically it is possible to open an Excel File, from wherever,

    and
    > > change it, and actually save that changed file to a Floppy

    > Disk...........,
    > > the correct answer to the *literal*, verbatim subject line of this

    thread
    > is
    > > actually YES!!!
    > >
    > > Whether it "should" be done that way or not, is a matter of personal
    > > opinion.
    > >
    > > Vaya con Dios,
    > > Chuck, CABGx3
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Ragdyer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > I really think that the *literal*, verbatim subject line of this

    thread
    > > must
    > > > be answered as a *NO*.
    > > >
    > > > You *save* to the HD.
    > > > You then *copy* to the floppy (hey!, that rhymes<g>), using Windows
    > > > Explorer!
    > > >
    > > > Although for years I've actually calculated and revised WBs *on* a Zip
    > > > drive, but I don't consider Zips as a floppy.
    > > > And then again, *always* making sure that the Zip capacity was at

    least
    > > > double the size of the WB.
    > > > --
    > > > Regards,
    > > >
    > > > RD
    > > >

    > >

    >
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > > -
    > > > Please keep all correspondence within the NewsGroup, so all may

    benefit
    > !
    > >

    >
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > > -
    > > > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > There's nothing wrong with taking a file on a floppy from location

    to
    > > > > location. You just need to make sure that when you edit it, it's

    been
    > > > copied
    > > > > to the target computer, not just on your portable media.
    > > > >
    > > > > (I'll bet you never expected *this* kind of response to what seemed

    > like
    > > > > such a simple question, did you?)
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > >
    > > > > JoAnn Paules
    > > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > >

    > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > Thank you all for your comments and advice. I can see what I was

    > > trying
    > > > > > to
    > > > > > do is a bit risky, so I'll take your advice and go another route.

    > > Thanks
    > > > > > to
    > > > > > all!!!!!!!!!!!!!Martie
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >




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