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    Skills Levels of Excel

    Hi folks,

    I am currently working towards getting a new job. I need excel skills and I have been doing online tutorials and even downloaded a course from microsoft e-learning.

    I would say I have basic knowledge of Excel, but the job I am wanting to go for I am needing advanced Excel skills.

    What would you class as advanced Excel skills?

    Thanks

    Kris

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    I think its dependant on each role, what i may class as 'Advanced' another person may class as 'Intermediate'

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    Hi Kris,

    Without a proper definition of 'advanced' there is no way to determine which category you are in now and how much more effort it will take you to become 'advanced'. You need to see what skills exactly the employer is after. For example, if the job is to create Excel-based applications then you may to learn vba, on the other hand if the IT department has completely blocked all macros from running then vba is useless in this environment, etc.

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    Hi Kris,

    I agree with galvinpaddy in that the term "advanced" could mean many different things. It will depend on the job and what types of data it gives you and what is needed for an answer.

    I believe you might need to understand TABLES and all those things that go along with them. They are fundamental to the power of Excel. Autofilters and Advanced Filters in tables might be considered an advanced topic. If/when you get a grasp of the Criteria Range in Advanced Filters then Pivot Tables might be your next topic.

    A separate and important topic would be VBA. In Excel 2010 you may be required to lean Macros which is different than VBA to put things on the net where they can still work.

    I've learned a lot from the John Wallenbach books and would suggest them as a good source. http://spreadsheetpage.com/

    When you run into a problem, you can always post it here and we will give you our best guess on what needs to be learned to get an answer.
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    Re: Skills Levels of Excel

    What would you class as advanced Galvinpaddy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvinP View Post
    In Excel 2010 you may be required to lean Macros which is different than VBA to put things on the net where they can still work
    MP, I thought all vba/ macros don't work on the web apps and other online excel extensions. Was I wrong?

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    Thanks for the information Marvin. I shall have a look at that page and hopefully this can help me build my knowledge.

    I wonder if you know of any website that set you tasks do work on in Excel? This may sound like a daft idea, but working on an e-learning download, I have realised that it is all pre-set modules and you are just copying what is in front of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abousetta View Post
    Hi Kris,

    Without a proper definition of 'advanced' there is no way to determine which category you are in now and how much more effort it will take you to become 'advanced'. You need to see what skills exactly the employer is after. For example, if the job is to create Excel-based applications then you may to learn vba, on the other hand if the IT department has completely blocked all macros from running then vba is useless in this environment, etc.

    Good luck.
    My work place does have jobs where you would create Excel-based applications and that is what I aspire to get to, but just now I have to start at the bottom.

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    I started with Excel VBA for dummies... forget about dummies, this is 90% of everythign you will need to work with vba. Advanced techniques and tricks will come with time and experience and learning from others' examples.

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    Also as you master vba, the internet is your greatest weapon. Your problem has probably already been asked 100 times before so a good search will provide turn-key solutions in most scenarios (or at least solutions similar enough for you to adapt to your problem)

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    Thanks for the info guys.

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    Hi abousetta,

    I've been in the Microsoft Access world for the last few months, working on a huge genealogical database. You are most likely correct when it comes to current versions of Excel although Excel has a save as web page option. In Access 2010 there is a big difference between Macros and VBA. The new Macro language in Access is meant to work on the net, on a webpage. The Macro language is a subset of VBA of things that are accomplishable on a webpage. I expect future versions of Microsoft Office to go in this direction.

    Once again, "advanced" is hard to define as we don't know what direction that term will take the OP. Excel is so big there are many "advanced" topics. I'm often ammused on all the functions that were current in old versions of Excel that have been hidden in the "Customize the Ribbon" option. For example look for a "PivotTable and PivotChart Wizard" that is only availble if you add it from the Customize Ribbon dialog. Along with old features are the new ones like the Slicer tool for Pivot Tables. There are also new Solver codes to improve guessing algorithms. There are even new add-ins like PowerPivots to extend Excel on the net or with multiple tables. "Advanced" is a moving target as we have all seen.

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    Re: Skills Levels of Excel

    Look post that DonkeyOte wrote here (unfortunally, link is not valid anymore):

    http://www.excelforum.com/the-water-...=1#post2254425

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    Thanks MP. I know that Office is getting more and more 'web-friendly' but didn't know about the new subset they created. I guess that's why Access 2010 only runs on MS Sharepoint Server to allow the usage of the new web-friendly vba.

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    I have a self-assessment I ask people to complete to group them into classes: https://www.box.com/s/3uquyiie71o8yzt4efz1
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    Re: Skills Levels of Excel

    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish_Kris View Post
    What would you class as advanced Galvinpaddy?
    For me i fall into the intermediate group as per the link provided Zbor, which is probably very accurate. all responses here are the best example of a difference in opinion, and all are very accurate.
    The fundamental thing in classifying what 'Advanced' will entail for the role you are after is finding out about the role itself, that way you can tailor your learnings to meet the requirements.

    Hope it all goes well for you, best of luck!
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