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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by darkyam View Post
    How do we go about appointing a new captain for our ship?
    RoyUk is admin, however he doesn't have full autonomy (whic is a shame), but then again Roy has plenty enough to do in life outside the forum, - to be honest you/we/members can shout all we want but without a dedicated all singing all dancing captain we either have to lump it or vote with our mouse and click elsewhere for a while

    Quote Originally Posted by StephenR View Post
    Does anyone know how this site is run? Who pays, who does the work? Is Vaibhav the Big Boss responsible for everything?
    Answer: Vaibhav owns the site, his employees administer all the cosmetics and physical changes and RoyUk is admin but with not enough power/flexibility or creative say, below that (not below in a lesser sense ) are the mods who are very, very frustrated as they have been asking for and discussing changes for the good of the forum for years but hardly ever getting a response.

    Quote Originally Posted by broro183 View Post
    Yep, I agree. The ship is sound :-)
    I've been here at EF for 6 years, you only stay at a place that long if it has something, i know i own my own similar site but i love it here and always have done - stick with it
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by ConneXionLost View Post
    Hi Vaibhav,

    On the navigation menu bar, when the cursor hovers over a menu "box", the text changes colour as part of the hover action, but the link doesn't become available until the cursor hovers over the box lettering.

    With the initial box text colour change, a user gets the impression that it is possible to click to the link, however nothing happens. This is a little frustrating. Would it be possible to allow the link to become active as part of the initial box hover?

    Cheers,
    Good Suggestion, Actually we are using text and not images, and the link is on the text but i will talk to the css coders to see if we can have link on the complete box.

    Quote Originally Posted by shg View Post
    In the particular instance, I'd say the issue was more about competence than passion. How about bringing Simon back, who was both?
    Simon resigned voluntarily and he is free to join back if he wants to.

    Quote Originally Posted by darkyam View Post
    I think it's good to have a log out link, but it's a little hard to read with the white font. Also, I think it might look a little cleaner on the right side of the bar or, perhaps better still, in that little box at the top that tells us how many messages we have.
    We did try to have it there while we were implementing the design but it looked kinda out of place, if you want we can place it there and every one can feedback on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by zbor View Post
    Affirmative.

    Bar breaks into 2, 3 or more (depending on how you squeeze your window) in all possible browsers in all possible universes.

    Attachment 63224
    It has to do something with the liquid design we have done, will get it corrected asap.

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    Vai, the code font issue is still not sorted. Apart from the fact that it is still proportional (in IE, FF and Safari), there is also a difference in size (in FF), even within the same thread. For example in this thread, http://www.excelforum.com/excel-gene...om-1-cell.html
    the first code box has much smaller font than the second code box when viewed with Firefox. If you don't have FF, here's a screenshot.
    Yes, looks like they tested it with only one code box. Thanks teylyn, i ll get it corrected.

    Quote Originally Posted by NBVC View Post
    Probably mentioned already...If so, then this is an emphasis post.

    Moderator listed in the Currently Active Users used to be bolded.. and that was so that all users can quickly identify which mods were on line, in case they needed any immediate assistance, etc...

    Would be nice to have that re-instated...

    Note: I am using Firefox.. not sure if IE or Chrome are the same results....
    This will be corrected right away.

    Quote Originally Posted by StephenR View Post
    Does anyone know how this site is run? Who pays, who does the work? Is Vaibhav the Big Boss responsible for everything?
    Stephen, Site is run by the members who help each other and the moderators and admins who make sure there is proper decorum.

    As far as technical stuff is concerned I use my inhouse team and also hire companies to do core changes if required.

    We have dual xenon servers with 8 gigs of ram which are paid off by the adverts which are shown to the unregistered members.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaibhav View Post
    Good Suggestion, Actually we are using text and not images, and the link is on the text but i will talk to the css coders to see if we can have link on the complete box.



    Simon resigned voluntarily and he is free to join back if he wants to.
    I did resign but you really dont want the circumstances aired here Vai, probably best not discussed in public
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaibhav View Post
    Stephen, Site is run by the members who help each other and the moderators and admins who make sure there is proper decorum.

    As far as technical stuff is concerned I use my inhouse team and also hire companies to do core changes if required.

    We have dual xenon servers with 8 gigs of ram which are paid off by the adverts which are shown to the unregistered members.
    If the members really DO run the forum then surely they should get everything they ask for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaibhav View Post
    Good Suggestion, Actually we are using text and not images, and the link is on the text but i will talk to the css coders to see if we can have link on the complete box.
    perhaps either have the link and box hover the same colour or use html button which is seen by search engines as text anyway so no SEO loss

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    I can pretty much cope with any kind of change as long as there is real purpose behind the change.

    Now, apart from having to wear dark glasses to view the forum, Here's what really annoys me:
    What's the point of forcing posters to use CODE tags if the font isn't really any different
    from the normal font? (in IE8, at least). The "new" CODE font uses proportional...NOT fixed spacing.

    Example:
    using these lists of 10 character strings, that begin with 3 spaces (that are not displaying):
    123abc7890 ABC45DEfg8
    ..3456abcd 123abc7890
    ABC45DEfg8 ..3456abcd

    When enclosed in CODE tags, they should ALL be the same length,
    like this (using the courier font). Notice, however, that the leading spaces are absent!:
    123abc7890 ABC45DEfg8
    ..3456abcd 123abc7890
    ABC45DEfg8 ..3456abcd


    But, using CODE tags:
    Please Login or Register  to view this content.
    The only thing the CODE tags do correctly is display the leading 3 spaces.
    The colums do NOT line up!

    Without a fixed font in CODE tags, actual code drifts left and right, depending on the
    content. Also, CODE tags used to be the perfect vehicle to display multi-column lists and
    formulas, due to the tidy way it presented them. Not any more.

    The only way I finally got the proper presentation was to use a combination of CODE tags
    and a courier font:
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    I'd like to see this fix expedited.
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Originally Posted by NBVC
    Probably mentioned already...If so, then this is an emphasis post.

    Moderator listed in the Currently Active Users used to be bolded.. and that was so that all users can quickly identify which mods were on line, in case they needed any immediate assistance, etc...

    Would be nice to have that re-instated...

    Note: I am using Firefox.. not sure if IE or Chrome are the same results....
    Originally Posted by Vaibhav: This will be corrected right away
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    I still have not this change in Firefox....
    Where there is a will there are many ways.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by NBVC View Post
    .

    I still have not this change in Firefox....
    It is now bold in IE8 at least, but it's bold blue. It barely stands out. Getting picky, but can you make it orange or red or green or something that stands out (such that even if it's not bold, it can be seen by everyone across browsers)?

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    and just in case you've missed the comments in posts 44, 127, 131, 132, 133, 169, 188, 190, 204 or you feel nobody has mentioned it before:
    Make the Code font monospace, please
    Make the Code font monospace, please
    Make the Code font monospace, please
    Make the Code font monospace, please
    Make the Code font monospace, please
    Make the Code font monospace, please
    Make the Code font monospace, please

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    two point five days later:

    =REPT("make code font monospace, please, in all browsers.",100)

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Perhaps worth investigating the functional poor performance of the board as whole ?

    This way, irrespective of how the page renders aesthetically, it does actually render...

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    two point five days later:

    =REPT("make code font monospace, please, in all browsers.",100)
    Isn't the "....point five" relative?

    Some fixes have happened in the background, the moderator bolding and colour is done, the menubar is smaller and now doesn't fold on to two lines when reducing the window size (you just lose whichever buttons are to the left of the menubar)

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    I've noticed over the last week or so that at times page load is painfully slow, not too bad today though.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by SL
    I've noticed over the last week or so that at times page load is painfully slow
    You'll be shocked to learn that this was brought up in the Mod forum about a week ago...

    The site at times has been so slow it's been pointless doing anything on it... thankfully there are a few other forums around so I've been posting inane drivel there instead !

    The fact the slow down is sporadic implies to me at least either

    a) slow query threads against the db

    b) some process munching resources on the server itself

    Simon, you'll know better than any of us so perhaps you could outline a checklist for Vai ?

    ...don't say that... they might follow-up.. never say never.


    A pretty page that does not render is worth [complete as see fit] IMO...

    The fact everything's just a different shade of grey still irritates (you can hardly read the quotes) but I'm more interested in the actual content... if it appears...

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    DO, just to refresh this page it took 10 seconds!, the CSS used spits out 1,400 lines of CSS in the page rendering to change the native look, ideally the css should be in a seperate script and called by the forum scripts. Along side that many many gif's are called for the buttons and boxes...etc

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Simon, my sentiments exactly. When I looked at the source code of a forum page the other day, my first reaction was "WTF" in bold and size 46. Every single CSS item is spelled out in the html and loaded again and again with every single page. As if links to .CSS files had never been heard of.

    About 24 hours ago, the forum had a complete croak event. Nada. Nix for two minutes. Server unavailable. Then, slowly, one by one, members were coming back online.

    I wonder what this is supposed to mean:

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaibhav
    We have dual xenon servers with 8 gigs of ram which are paid off by the adverts which are shown to the unregistered members.
    Maybe that's a complete joke for a forum our size. Maybe it's just badly administered.

    I'd wager that if the DBAs are of the same quality as the web developers, Vai is paying for a Porsche and gets only a Beetle's performance. And so do we.

    But as DonkeyOte said: "There are a few other forums". I was lucky enough not to have to resort to drivel to kill time. Maybe some of the OPs there actually came from here ...!

    There's amazing things happening in the online communities elsewhere. You wouldn't believe the punishment other forum owners have to take from unhappy contributors/problem solvers -- and the efforts that they undertake to keep their advisor community happy and in the coop.

    The fact that the moderators here have been virtually begging for a few simple structural changes that seem to be neither discussed nor considered, speaks volumes for the regard that the owner really has for this investment. And let's face it: Excelforum.com is just an investment for Vai. He does not know nor care about Excel, Excel users, Excel advisors. All this fancy talk about "the forum belongs to the users" is a whole lot of big bull. Proven by the complete disregard for the moderators' requests about forum structure and the silly and senseless additions of more forums and fake posts instead of keeping the existing house cleared up.

    Yeah, OK, so now we can actually click some of the fancy new buttons. Big deal. They used to work perfectly before the make-up change, so that does not deserve any special mention.

    Other things that used to work perfectly before the make-up change are now broken, have been reported repeatedly and continue to be broken. Whether this is due to ignorance or incompetence does not really matter to me now.

    The only thing this all shows is the complete disregard and lack of respect for the community in this forum by the owner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaibhav
    Site is run by the members who help each other and the moderators and admins who make sure there is proper decorum
    where is my sarcasm font icon?

    Completely unimpressed
    Last edited by teylyn; 02-04-2010 at 06:53 AM.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    apart from that teylyn, is everything else ok? lol
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    In small defense of the CSS, vBulletin employs a "Main CSS" template within the software, there is a textbox that you simply add the forum CSS to so you will naturally see this on every page as i believe it is loaded when the header is loaded, but there again these guys are supposed to be professionals.

    My forum has at this moment 304 users here there are 564
    Originally Posted by Vaibhav
    We have dual xenon servers with 8 gigs of ram which are paid off by the adverts which are shown to the unregistered members.
    should be able to power a dozen forums like this, my server is dual core, 8 cpu's and i run at 512mb RAM, granted on the whole i need 1GB but i don't experience this amount of slow down.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Martin, have you ever done web development? Do I sound angry? Frustrated?

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board


    The mods are revolting!
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Naw, it's just me being emotional because I like this place and I hate the carelessness and neglect it's currently facing.

    Thing is, I work in IT project management, focussing on Change Management. I know how it's done properly. How to avoid all the mistakes that we've seen here in the past few weeks.

    You need different environments for development, testing, staging, production. Thorough tests by real users in each environment before you progress to the next stage. Set up a site with bogus data and get the mods and some super users to test and feed back to the project team. Bug fixes will happen before you release into production. Communication will go out to users to announce changes before they go live.

    That's my job. That's what I get actually paid for. And that's why it irks me immensely to see that this forum is being reduced to banana software.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    You want feedback...OK, here's my latest feedback.

    This forum has dropped from being my first choice (checked continuously duing the day)
    down to my THIRD choice (checked several times a day).

    Why?...Because its glaring apprearance, poor formatting, small fonts, and horrible
    code display are too annoying to tolerate in large doses.

    PLEASE FIX THIS FORUM.
    The people are great. The place is a train wreck.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Vai, just guessing, but I'm assuming that losing the support / contributions of one of the few Microsoft Excel MVP's is not part of your master plan ?

    I have to say that since the deckchairs were re-arranged I've noticed a number of people, myself included, posting again on other forums in greater quantity than was previously the case implying that Ron is unlikely to be alone and shall prove to be a trail blazer as opposed to the exception.

    I concede in my case woeful performance has been the predominant irritation but in the past six months or so the whole "ambience" of the board has changed and that is down solely to the actions taken outside of the Mods remit...
    ie decisions made over which no one here has any control / say

    I joined just over a year ago having been a member at MrExcel.com for a number of years... in the first year I felt that this site was catching up - quickly - in all aspects.
    I much preferred the more controlled aspects imposed by the Mods here and the file upload facility is a huge advantage over MrE.
    However, the fact that as owner you see fit to test on live systems, have days where even the most loyal of contributors are inundated with inane advertising* and generally display all the hallmarks of someone who sees the "value" of the board in an entirely different way to the rest of us makes me question not only my continued participation but that of a large number of the members here Mods / non-Mods alike.

    Your site (and it's monetary value) is entirely dependent upon the expertise of it's members and as far as I'm aware this is not something your "team" has in abundance ?
    (indeed it would seem they know only how to ask questions in the OS forums)

    If you continue to ignore those people that actually add value to your site (at no cost to yourself) you will lose that which gives it value in the first instance.
    I really (honestly) hope that the loss of just one Microsoft Excel MVP should be significant enough for you to sit up & recognise that fact ... I dread to think what would happen should the likes of Andy Pope decide to follow suit.
    (I am assuming you know the significance behind the MVP award of course...)

    FWIW, I'm not overly interested in a response to the above, talk is talk and it's plainly apparent to all that actions are what is required at this juncture.
    The structure is a mess, the performance is at best mediocre at present.
    Were I in your shoes it would be to those two areas that I would focus my attention.
    I would not be losing too much sleep about which icon I should have to close a thread or add reputation (?!)

    Don't (continue) to take your contributors for granted, listen to them and act / prioritise accordingly.


    *advertising - made worse by the fact that the content has zero relevance to the site's content

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    DO, thats a loud echo and passionately put, you're right as MVP's posting at your forum is testiment to its attraction for both meeting the needs of a challenge and the satisfaction of furthering someones education in to something we all love.

    If you check the Alexa ranking here http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/excelf...ph&r=home_home you will find that Excel Forum has dropped in all rankings bar two, that's Bounce (the number of people that only visit the site for one page turn) and Search, which proves people are still visiting from matches found in a search engine but then are unwilling to surf the rest of the site.

    If Vai is going to stave off the exodus it has to be now, as at least in the UK, folk will be using Excel frantically trying to meet year end accounts needs.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Hello Vai,

    I've refrained from posting on this subject whilst I gave the new look and feel a fair chance - change always being somewhat problematical in all walks of life and I didn't want to come over all reactionary.

    However I think I've given it a sporting chance and I have to say that my principle concern is the eye strain that has resulted.

    The background is way too light and the 'grey' text really hasn't sufficient contrast. The new design may be the latest modern arty farty design chic and all that, but for those of us on the wrong side of 60 it's just too much trauma for the old Mk. 1 eyeball.

    Please review this aspect with some urgency.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Tho I haven't read the lot thread but my 2 cents is the current colour doesn't cut the rug. I quite enjoy the original colours that where displayed when I first registered.
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    This threads link has been removed from the top of the forums page, but i think it should be bumped as there are issues that still haven't been dealt with, not to mention the speed of the forum has been degraded seriously!

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    I'm coming to believe that the only thing that will get Capt Brigg's attention is for the mods to take a one-week sabbatical. We could all stay at Simon's digs.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Mutiny on the Mary Celeste ... they said it could never happen ! (obviously)

    A Mod strike... interesting... I guess though we might have our privileges revoked
    ah yes, I remember now, we don't actually have any...

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    DO, it's all about money. If you (all MODs and you specifically) have a strike of a week, the quality of this forum will go down dramatically.

    As people demand (wish has become an understatement these days) a quick answer they will go elsewhere and part will stick there. I think a week will do just about it.

    Don't expect your post count will increase any further afterwards.
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    What's that sound I hear? The crackle of torches and the clinking of pitchforks?
    Yikes! It's the villagers...RUN!

    <snicker>

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    I'm all for a holiday over at Simon's! This forum has become so slow that it takes three times as long to answer posts and I'd rather spend my time on something productive than watching grass grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shg View Post
    I'm coming to believe that the only thing that will get Capt Brigg's attention is for the mods to take a one-week sabbatical. We could all stay at Simon's digs.
    There's shackles to fit everyone and escape won't be so easy

    Quote Originally Posted by DonkeyOte View Post
    Mutiny on the Mary Celeste ... they said it could never happen ! (obviously)

    A Mod strike... interesting... I guess though we might have our privileges revoked
    ah yes, I remember now, we don't actually have any...
    DO!, you do have a priviledge, it's that of being allowed to post here in a higher authority, ROFL.

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    I'm all for a holiday over at Simon's! This forum has become so slow that it takes three times as long to answer posts and I'd rather spend my time on something productive than watching grass grow.
    I have moments at my site i admit where you can watch the grass grow but it's not as frequent as here, when i can afford more memory on the server it will be that fast you'd soil yourself trying to keep up

    Seriously, everyone, i know how you feel and its been a while unresponsive, but it's still a great place, as much as i would love to say to everyone point your mouse elsewhere, if you did this would cease to be the great place it is, it's 90% you, the responders, that make this site what it is, i've always maintained that.

    Anyway, you know where i am should you wish to drop in------tea and biscuits all round

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    Simon, I cant't believe how you still fly the flag for this forum. You're trying to get your own site into the black numbers, but at the same time encourage people to keep contributing here.

    What a guy! Hat off to you!

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    teylyn,

    Maybe this has something to do with it
    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Lloyd
    to be the great place it is, it's 90% you
    ... and for what it is worth, I hope you all change your attitude into something possitive soon. And I mean not by external factors.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    On the opposite end of the scale we have the owner of this forum, who last showed up here five days ago and last bothered to post to reply to the concerns of the members on the 29th of January (NZ time zone). That's eleven days ago. For a forum that has just undergone a complete user interface redesign brimming with bugs and unresolved issues.
    Last edited by teylyn; 02-10-2010 at 04:40 AM. Reason: ok, decaf for now

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    Errrrm, teylyn, perhaps you should lay off the coffee for a while

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    Ladies and gents, we have speed!!!! , seems they have sorted the Ajax issue.
    Last edited by Simon Lloyd; 02-10-2010 at 04:49 AM.

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    Si, you read it, that's important. I've gone decaf ...

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    Well just keep that text on the back burner for Vai if he turns up, he wont see your original post as he hasn't visited this thread since his last notification.

    And i thank you for your sentiments and now your decorum!

    Decaf suits you better

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    Vai should know how to uncover the deleted parts if he's interested. I still stand by it.

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    Hi All,

    Vaibhav is out of country from last week.. He is in UK... That's why he is not replying your query..

    We are working on your suggestion.. with in few days all problem will be solved...

    if you have any query then DM to me..

    your feedback is very important to us...

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    I don't remember asking about putting tweet links in each of our posts? Do you?

    Wondering where the priorities are?

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    shub, out of curioisity - why did you create a new user ?
    Surely you could have just re-used one of the 100 or so that were created to seed the OS forums, no ?

    I've got a few ideas for some tweets...

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    Thank you so much for responding.

    It felt like we were stuffing notes in bottles and tossing them into the ocean...hoping the right person would find them.

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    So we can now Tweet. How tweet!!!

    I twaw I twaw a putty tat...
    "May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the crotch of the person who screws up your day and may their arms be too short to scratch..."

    Use code tags when posting your VBA code: [code] Your code here [/code]

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    Ron...we are working on your feedback... with in couple of days all problem will be solved

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Coderre View Post
    Thank you so much for responding.

    It felt like we were stuffing notes in bottles and tossing them into the ocean...hoping the right person would find them.

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    Done......

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    and just in case you've missed the comments in posts 44, 127, 131, 132, 133, 169, 188, 190, 204 or you feel nobody has mentioned it before:
    Make the Code font monospace, please

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    Quote Originally Posted by shub View Post
    Hi All,

    Vaibhav is out of country from last week.. He is in UK... That's why he is not replying your query..

    We are working on your suggestion.. with in few days all problem will be solved...

    if you have any query then DM to me..

    your feedback is very important to us...
    Shub thanks for clarifying that, i know what its like, i can't wait for us in the UK to get some more computers so we can all access the internet when we want

    BTW what is "DM"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Lloyd View Post
    BTW what is "DM"?
    I believe it means "Don't Mail/Message" as in
    if you have any query then don't mail/message to me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by shub View Post
    Done......
    Originally Posted by teylyn
    and just in case you've missed the comments in posts 44, 127, 131, 132, 133, 169, 188, 190, 204 or you feel nobody has mentioned it before:
    Make the Code font monospace, please
    No it's not. The code font is still a proportional font in Firefox. Please make the code font monospace in all browsers

    Also, the forum views still show all posts as bold, regardless of whethere they've been read or not. That makes it very difficult to find new post in a forum view. If read posts can be unbolded in the Search views, can the same principle please be applied to Forum views? Please??
    Last edited by teylyn; 02-10-2010 at 06:08 PM.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    ok chaps/chapesses(sic) shub is showing a willingless to sort things out give him/her a break

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Unfortunate typo there Martin.

    I'm sure it wasn't a Freudian slip and I agree.

    Regards

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Shub,
    It's great to finally have feedback - keep it timely & we'll keep the suggestions coming.

    I look forward to seeing "Done" next to one or two of my previous suggestions!
    btw, they're probably easier to complete than Teylyn's more knowledgeable requests, so...if you're looking for something easy to complete...!

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    It might be useful to consolidate the requested changes into a single list, and to repeat it (absent changes made) in each new post. That might be easier than having to review all the posts in this lengthy thread, and besides, repetition bears repeating. Without thinking hard, my current list is:
    • Restore monospace code fonts in all browsers. Restore the string "Code" that appears just above the code box to its former small size. Remove the blank space that now appears from the end of code to the bottom of the code box, even when the closing code tag immediately follows the last line of code.
    • Restore showing only unread posts as bold
    • Reorganize the forum hierarchy
    • Reskin if there is some consensus as to what it should be, or offer several skins.

    Feel free to add items, but please copy those above unless you disagree.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    adding on to existing list:
    • Restore monospace code fonts in all browsers. Restore the string "Code" that appears just above the code box to its former small size. Remove the blank space that now appears from the end of code to the bottom of the code box, even when the closing code tag immediately follows the last line of code.
    • Restore showing only unread posts as bold
    • Reorganize the forum hierarchy
    • Reskin if there is some consensus as to what it should be, or offer several skins.
    • Restore link to forum rules in navigation/menu bar at the top
    • Please change navigation bar font to something other than white so when the nav bar breaks into several lines on a PDA or mobile phone screen, the menu items are still recognisable and can again be used on a mobile device (like they could with the old skin)
    Last edited by teylyn; 02-10-2010 at 09:37 PM.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    adding on to existing list:
    • Restore monospace code fonts in all browsers. Restore the string "Code" that appears just above the code box to its former small size. Remove the blank space that now appears from the end of code to the bottom of the code box, even when the closing code tag immediately follows the last line of code.
    • Restore showing only unread posts as bold
    • Reorganize the forum hierarchy
    • Reskin if there is some consensus as to what it should be, or offer several skins.
    • Restore link to forum rules in navigation/menu bar at the top
    • Please change navigation bar font to something other than white so when the nav bar breaks into several lines on a PDA or mobile phone screen, the menu items are still recognisable and can again be used on a mobile device (like they could with the old skin)
    • Colour of Forum fonts for print out readability (post 84 & http://www.excelforum.com/excel-gene...ing-macro.html)
    • Re-apply the padlock symbol within threads (post 139)
    • Improved communication (post 181):
      • What is your strategy for achieving the goal/vision?
      • Will this be published (or even better, discussed & published)?
      • If not published for everyone, at least for/with the Moderators?

    Rob

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    Talking Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Where did my Tweets Go? Just opened an account where ALL my fan's can read all my brilliant excel solutions?

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    Don't know about the rest of you but refresh time is slow again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Lloyd View Post
    Don't know about the rest of you but refresh time is slow again
    It's not instantanious but not what I would call particularly slow.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    ive had trouble all morning took 2 mins just to add an attachment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domski View Post
    It's not instantanious but not what I would call particularly slow.

    Dom
    around 25 seconds to refresh this morning and closing on 20 just to get the reply window for this.

    However the "slowness" isn't consistent, sometimes its lightning fast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Lloyd View Post
    around 25 seconds to refresh this morning and closing on 20 just to get the reply window for this.

    However the "slowness" isn't consistent, sometimes its lightning fast!
    It was a bit slow a couple of days ago but not noticed today. I only dip in and out occasionally so prob not noticed as much as some.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by Teylyn
    Restore monospace code fonts in all browsers. Restore the string "Code" that appears just above the code box to its former small size. Remove the blank space that now appears from the end of code to the bottom of the code box, even when the closing code tag immediately follows the last line of code.
    I switched to HTML for coding as oherwise it is just not making sense !

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    shub
    your probity is on the line here.
    what are you doing.. communication ????
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    Quick fix for the monospace code is to put the code in code tags, then change the font of the code to courier new. Seems to work for me.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    One month on and noone knows what is going on (well apart form the few that Val has sent Pm's to when they come on).
    WHY IS IT THAT EVERYONE IS TREATED LIKE MUSHROOMS (you know the saying)

    this one has aready been said;
    while holding ctrl and left click the mouse in a code box, can it be put back to how is was selecting only the code and not the whole post.
    ANY FIX ANY OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE WANT.!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by D_Rennie View Post
    One month on and noone knows what is going on (well apart form the few that Val has sent Pm's to when they come on).
    WHY IS IT THAT EVERYONE IS TREATED LIKE MUSHROOMS (you know the saying)

    this one has aready been said;
    while holding ctrl and left click the mouse in a code box, can it be put back to how is was selecting only the code and not the whole post.
    ANY FIX ANY OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE WANT.!!!
    The code box thing, place the mouse slightly to the left of the box, hold Ctrl and left click then right click the selection......etc

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Just in case the Powers That Be do not check on other threads: We have one very unhappy camper about Forum rules and Code Tags.

    So, re-iterating the previous collection: Shub? Vaibhav? Are you there? Last time you clocked on was 11-Feb NZ time. Four days ago. Is that how you keep in touch with the user base?
    • Restore monospace code fonts in all browsers. Restore the string "Code" that appears just above the code box to its former small size. Remove the blank space that now appears from the end of code to the bottom of the code box, even when the closing code tag immediately follows the last line of code.
    • Restore showing only unread posts as bold
    • Reorganize the forum hierarchy
    • Reskin if there is some consensus as to what it should be, or offer several skins.
    • Restore link to forum rules in navigation/menu bar at the top
    • Please change navigation bar font to something other than white so when the nav bar breaks into several lines on a PDA or mobile phone screen, the menu items are still recognisable and can again be used on a mobile device (like they could with the old skin)
    • Colour of Forum fonts for print out readability (post 84 & http://www.excelforum.com/excel-gene...ing-macro.html)
    • Re-apply the padlock symbol within threads (post 139)
    • Improved communication (post 181):
      • What is your strategy for achieving the goal/vision?
      • Will this be published (or even better, discussed & published)?
      • If not published for everyone, at least for/with the Moderators?
    Last edited by teylyn; 02-15-2010 at 03:49 AM.

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    Just saw shub come online. Holding my breath ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shub View Post
    ...........We are working on your suggestion.. with in few days all problem will be solved...

    if you have any query then DM to me..

    your feedback is very important to us...
    I guess he's been reading the Vai book of communication, i also think they read the same dictionary for the definitions of "feedback" & "important".

    Shub, Vai....or whoever from the owners of this site last replied 5 days ago, one of their posts was claiming that the code font was now monospace in all browsers.

    Makes you wish you could pickett outside their workplace!

    I haven't posted here much lately and other than checking in for a laugh i don't think i'll post again, a forum that is run selfishly and haphazard (apart from my own ......what? you have to have double standards ) is no good for me or anyone else, take a look at http://www.ozgrid.com
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    shub, seeing that you're intensely scrutinising the Programming Forum threads instead of giving us some feedback on the state of things, maybe a little subliminal messaging is more likely to reach you.

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    cheers

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Whose bright idea was it to make the code font virtually invisible ?

    Why do you continue to test on a live environment ?

    I for one am not prepared to continue Moderating on a site run in this manner - it makes me look unprofessional by association.

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    Ah..., but finally code tags are now delivering mono spaced font in Firefox, too. Finally. I mean, after weeks of asking!!. Never mind that they now render light grey on slightly darker grey in IE. Who uses IE, anyway, LOL!

    This looks like "War of the browsers". Fix a prob in one, genereate another in the other.

    Oh, man! How nice it'd be to have competent people at the CSS end!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    maybe a little subliminal messaging is more likely to reach you.
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    Ha ha ha Sub liminal!!!!! Very funny!! Not bad at all.
    For a German

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Is it possible to (for example) next to New post (Replay) button there can be also SOLVED button (for thread oppener)?

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    @Dominicb
    For a German
    Pardon? Everyone knows that the slimmest volumes ever published in the history of printed literature were the "Irish Book of Heros", the "German Book of Humour", and the "American Cultural Guide".

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by broro183 View Post
    [LIST][*]Restore monospace code fonts in all browsers. Restore the string "Code" that appears just above the code box to its former small size. Remove the blank space that now appears from the end of code to the bottom of the code box, even when the closing code tag immediately follows the last line of code.
    Done.....

    [*]Restore showing only unread posts as bold
    Done...

    [*]Reorganize the forum hierarchy
    we will start a new thread for restructuring after completion the design & CSS work



    [*]Reskin if there is some consensus as to what it should be, or offer several skins.
    We are working on this option

    [*]Restore link to forum rules in navigation/menu bar at the top
    Done....

    [*]Please change navigation bar font to something other than white so when the nav bar breaks into several lines on a PDA or mobile phone screen, the menu items are still recognisable and can again be used on a mobile device (like they could with the old skin)
    Done...

    [*]Colour of Forum fonts for print out readability
    Done....

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Good to see some action but the below:

    Quote Originally Posted by shub
    we will start a new thread for restructuring after completion the design & CSS work
    still defies logic... if your car was involved in an accident such that it no longer started and had a huge scratch along the side - which would you opt to fix first - the engine or the paintwork ?

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Depends do you want to sell it for spare parts or to use it

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    In order to sell it you first need someone who wants to buy it... even for scrap...

    Hijack over - keep the thread on track - progress is (at last) being made.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote:
    [list][*]Restore monospace code fonts in all browsers. Restore the string "Code" that appears just above the code box to its former small size. Remove the blank space that now appears from the end of code to the bottom of the code box, even when the closing code tag immediately follows the last line of code.
    Done.....
    not quite. there's still a large space in the code box after the last code statement. It's not a show stopper, but it's distracting. Nice to see mono font in FF now, though!

    [*]Restore showing only unread posts as bold
    Thanks. Much better!
    [*]Reorganize the forum hierarchy
    we will start a new thread for restructuring after completion the design & CSS work
    Where? When? Can we have a timeline/ETA, please?

    Quote:[*]Restore link to forum rules in navigation/menu bar at the top
    Done....
    Thanks, much appreciated!

    Quote:[*]Please change navigation bar font to something other than white so when the nav bar breaks into several lines on a PDA or mobile phone screen, the menu items are still recognisable and can again be used on a mobile device (like they could with the old skin)
    Done...
    Gold! Finally able to (again!) access vital forum functions on the mobile

    Any feedback to the community about the forum course, strategy and implementation time frame??? We all know that the goal is to become the "best", "biggest", or so. Maybe you want to share your ideas on how to achieve this? Like how to secure expert advice, MS MVP contributions, continued activities of active moderators, incentives for regulars who add value???

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    we are planning a new twitter option with thread post....

    (Mod....)are you interested in this option ?..

    send me your feedback.....

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    Where? When? Can we have a timeline/ETA, please?
    next 3-4 days we will start a new thread for restructuring

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    @Dominicb Pardon? Everyone knows that the slimmest volumes ever published in the history of printed literature were the "Irish Book of Heros", the "German Book of Humour", and the "American Cultural Guide".
    You missed out the "English Cookery book"

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    DDL, great pic, shame its a myth about them being extremely venomous - you could threaten some folk

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Hi Shub,

    Are you serious?

    I think most of us would rather attention was paid to the basics of the forum before undertaking any future 'enhancements'.

    From a purely personal point of view I am not interested in 'twitter'. The very name puts me off even if I thought it added to the sum total of humankind's beneficial experience.However since I believe it adds not one iota of usefulness and because I'm the wrong side of 60 you'll need to attenuate this response accordingly.

    But from a practical point of view just how much Excel information do you think could be squeezed into 160 (?) characters?
    Nuff said I think.

    pip pip....

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    wouldnt the thinking behind adding somethink like twitter to this site, be for trying to entice more people to view these pages. ive never been on the twitter website. though have seen facebook with its animal farms and pet dogs. so i think that would be a better choice.
    maby then you could make it so everytime someone ties to view a page that had to feed excelforum a bone before they could get help.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    1) Forum Rules link on every page is wrong:

    The link in the lower left corner of every page entitled Forum Rules does not link to the Forum Rules we expect everyone to follow. It links to a VERY short mini-rules page.

    I fear the mini-page is the one new registrants actually see, which may explain why so many register and immediately break posting rules. Did new registrants REALLY see the actual rules we want followed during registration?

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    2) Quick Links:

    I used to be able to point people to the Quick Links menu ...or was it the HOW TO... menu...where they could read the rules without us linking to it for them. The Forum Rules (the ones we expect them to follow) are no longer conveniently and obviously marked there, either.

    Can we please get the two items above sync'd/reinstated?
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    [SOLVED] default Code Tags font changed

    Prior to the "new look", enclosing items in code tags results in a clean, mono-typed font that distinctively mimicked the look of the VBEditor in Excel.

    Please Login or Register  to view this content.
    After the "new look", it still did that...for awhile.

    Now, the default font is Arial for code tagged areas and I can find no way at all to set the font permanently back to the correct setting, I'm having to manually encode the font.
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    Can we get it back the way it was? Can we turn on a customizable permanent font setting in the profile or something? Anything?
    Last edited by Vaibhav; 02-18-2010 at 09:22 AM. Reason: testing

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Back to the top:
    • Restore monospace code fonts in all browsers. Restore the string "Code" that appears just above the code box to its former small size. Remove the blank space that now appears from the end of code to the bottom of the code box, even when the closing code tag immediately follows the last line of code. [Is this fixed for all??]
    • Restore showing only unread posts as bold [Done]
    • Reorganize the forum hierarchy
    • Reskin if there is some consensus as to what it should be, or offer several skins.
    • Restore link to forum rules in navigation/menu bar at the top [Done]
    • Please change navigation bar font to something other than white so when the nav bar breaks into several lines on a PDA or mobile phone screen, the menu items are still recognisable and can again be used on a mobile device (like they could with the old skin) [Done]
    • Colour of Forum fonts for print out readability (post 84 & http://www.excelforum.com/exceltip-c...ing-macro.html)
    • Re-apply the padlock symbol within threads (post 139)
    • Improved communication (post 181):
      • What is your strategy for achieving the goal/vision?
      • Will this be published (or even better, discussed & published)?
      • If not published for everyone, at least for/with the Moderators?
    • Correct the Forum Rules link in the LL corner of each page to the actual forum rules.
    • Restore the How To link in the menu bar
    Last edited by shg; 02-15-2010 at 01:51 PM.

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    Registration forum rules

    REMINDER: During the registration process, the min-forum rules are presented, not the ones we actually expect them to read/follow.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Suggested - abbreviated version of the rules during the registration process:

    Mini-Forum rules listing:

    1. Your post title should accurately and concisely describe your problem, not your anticipated solution or state of mind. Consider writing the title AFTER you have finished writing your issue out.

    2. Post your own question in your own thread -- do not post new questions into existing threads of other members.

    3. Use code tags around code. Always.

    4. Discuss the issues in the open forum so everyone benefits. - do not Private Message or email questions to moderators or other members.

    5. Post in the correct forum.

    6. Common courtesy is required at all times.
    Always.

    7. Obey all instructions given to you by moderators.

    8. Cross-posting the same question on other sites is OK as long as you include a link to those posts when you post the same question here. Always.

    9. Self-resolved issues require you post your solution for others to benefit from.

    10. Always respond to suggestions provided. Good or bad, respond. (flag resolved threads as [SOLVED])

    11. Contact moderators directly to delete your post or move it to the correct forum.

    12. Do not ask for help breaking passwords or security on any documents.

    13. Promoting competing Excel Forums in your signature is not allowed.


    (then provide a link to the LONG expanded version of the rules and detailed explanation.
    Last edited by JBeaucaire; 02-15-2010 at 09:55 PM.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Allow me to stifle my scream.

    You can no longer change the font color inside a code window to highlight a line of code. You can have any color you want, as long as it's black. See, for example, http://www.excelforum.com/excel-prog...or-number.html

    If this is rocket science, may we get a rocket scientist?

    If it's brain surgery, may we get a brain surgeon?

    If it just requires modest competence, may we get someone modestly competent?

    Or just go back to the way the forum was three months ago, and put the boy-wonder web science fair project on hold while someone goes back to school?

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Vai, here/s a suggestion: Since vBulletin boards can be set up with user selectable skins, can you please set up the old skin as a selectable option and test the new skin without forcing everybody to use it while it is still clearly in development? That would ease the member stress immensely. Using that approach from the start you would have avoided losing one of your most valued moderators.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by shg View Post
    Allow me to stifle my scream.

    You can no longer change the font color inside a code window to highlight a line of code. You can have any color you want, as long as it's black. See, for example, http://www.excelforum.com/excel-prog...or-number.html
    ..........
    I believe, and someone will correct me if i am wrong, it's simply a matter of disbling the css for that particular element, these are what affect the editor window:
    HTML Code: 
    The above are mine, however pretty standard for vbulletin, when using css you call a class like this
    HTML Code: 
    so removing the class from their new css will allow the native css to be implemented.

    P.S extra space at the bottom of the html window was nothing to do with me.
    Last edited by Vaibhav; 02-16-2010 at 07:43 AM. Reason: testing code tag

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    SiMAN,
    I'm sitting on my hands trying to succeed in not posting the correct CSS. Someone's getting paid for getting it right, so I won't chip this in for free.

    An empire with 70+ staff should be able to employ somebody who can google or visit a site like WebMasterWorld.com and get clued up from scratch in less than a week. The skill set (or lack of it) is just one part of the problem.

    The other part is that it'll probably take another week until the next "super adimin" even logs on and delivers a spurt of changes and trials (and more errors), since in the meantime Vai was on important business travels in another country that does not have internet connection (like the UK, for example, poor sods).

    You, me, some others, we could show and tell them how to set up this and that and the other, a test environment, WAMP, a choosable skin, conditional CSS for anything back to Netscape 4, but, you know what? I don't want to! I'm already not getting paid for giving Excel advice and cleaning up after users who can't read or follow a dozen simple rules (OK, baker's dozen with the last jealous addition), but who have sussed out signature pics and go wild on font formatting in their first post. I'm happy to continue doing that, but I'd expect the provider of this site, who makes the revenue from the advertising, to come up with the infrastructure that enables the unpaid advisors here to actually do the work that ensures the owner's revenue. I'm not going to give him free advice on how to achieve that, too!

    The point is that development is being undertaken on a LIVE system. They have no clue what the effects of their changes are. There is no testing. This is a complete trial and error approach.

    "Whoops! Code font not right? OK, let's try this ..... hack, hack, hack....Whoops! Too much space at the bottom now? Wait, maybe here ... hack, hack, hack, .... Whoops! Only proportinal in Firefox? Hang on .... hack, hack, hack ... Whoops! Now no color coding within code tags? Erhmm, OK .... hack, hack, hack ..."

    I've managed software development projects with agile methodologies, incorporating user feedback during the development process, but this is no methodology at all. This is groping in the dark.

    As shg has indicated: it does not require rocket scientists nor brain surgeons, just modest competence. But rookies will never get it right. But rookies is apparently all we're stuck with here.

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    I sympathise and agree with you but i want them to get it right, i want the folk here to be happy. The actual element that controls the code font is incorporated with other elements, its a global setting for a few things - the element is "smallfont"

    Nuff said

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Just for the record: Both Vai and Shub were logged on a little while ago. I saw Shub check this thread, but to be honest, I did not see if Vai checked it, although I would assume so. After all, he asked for feedback, so I'd expect him to collect it.

    There has been no acknowlegement of the posts that were placed after the last spurt of changes 24 hrs ago. There has been no feedback from the owner or "administrator" as to which fixes to expect as a follow up on the last comments.

    <sarcasm font> Great communication, guys!! Really appreciate the feedback and the fixes!</sarcasm font>

    Due to your lack of communication with mods and members, combined with the recent skin change disaster, you've already lost the two top rated members (both in rep points as in posts) as moderators. I'm sure if you continue with this methodology, you'll be able to scare away the MS MVPs as well as the other moderators. The effect on the Alexa ratings and the advertising revenue won't be immediate, so you can still pat yourselves on the shoulders for a few months and pretend you're doing fine.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    .....

    <sarcasm font> Great communication, guys!! Really appreciate the feedback and the fixes!</sarcasm font>

    Due to your lack of communication with mods and members, combined with the recent skin change disaster, you've already lost the two top rated members (both in rep points as in posts) as moderators. I'm sure if you continue with this methodology, you'll be able to scare away the MS MVPs as well as the other moderators. .......pretend you're doing fine.
    Teylyn, i know that shg stepped down but you mention 2 now, who's the other if you don't mind me asking?

    Vai, if you are checking this thread....DO SOMETHING NOW!, it's sad that shg stepped down but now that others are following is very bad for this forum

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Judging by the list, DonkeyOte appears to have stepped down.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    have you checked DO's status lately?

    SLAM BANG!

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by romperstomper View Post
    Judging by the list, DonkeyOte appears to have stepped down.
    Thanks RO!, i fear the first of many

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    have you checked DO's status lately?

    SLAM BANG!
    I don't usually check statuses, lol or should it be stati? anyway it's bad news..........they need someone with some passion to manage this thread, the feedback and the management of the project. It's the only way to stop the rot.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    I'm gonna undelete my post of a few days ago soon....! Decaf or not

    And, for the further record: The valued "super admin" has still not bothered to comment, despite him and his side-kick being online during the last couple of hours.

    We appreciate your appreciation, Vai. What was your statement again? "The forum belongs to the users."

    I'm going to take a Lucy laugh at that (as in Charlie Brown, Peanuts) HAHAHAHAHhahahahah
    Last edited by teylyn; 02-16-2010 at 09:39 AM.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    The forum was down from 10:31 pm to 11:50 pm NZ time. That was the hardest crash I've ever experienced.

    Vai, is this sorted now, or are you still playing with the live equipment during the busiest time of the European day?

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    I for one am glad we don't have this new-fangled internet thing here in the UK. This all sounds really frustrating for you guys...

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    The time has come to make the most of the site .. we will just have to live with the way things are!
    They may not be perfect but thats just the way it will be .. no point in retiterating any problems .. they may or may not be fixed life goes on....it will still be one of the best places to find solution (since retired mods are hanging around ) only more casual
    enjoy and make the most of it ..
    Owners and OP's come and go ..

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Just as a small easter egg for you good people, if you want to display tags of some kind to people you normally have to go to great lengths to explain the brackets...etc, all you need to do is use NOPARSE tags like this[noparse]CODE TAGS[/noparse]

    Result [code]Please [url=https://www.excelforum.com/login.php]Login or Register [/url] to view this content.[/code]

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    Ooops just like Pike has done

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    I bet this has been mention if it has it must be a good idea.

    Since its part of the rules to wrap formulas and macro script in tags. How about place some buttons on the 'Post Quick Reply' like where the 'Insert link' and the 'Quote' buttons are. I think they would have more use than the current one on display.

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    LOL ... bugger all is the norm

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by ratcat View Post
    I bet this has been mention if it has it must be a good idea.

    Since its part of the rules to wrap formulas and macro script in tags. How about place some buttons on the 'Post Quick Reply' like where the 'Insert link' and the 'Quote' buttons are. I think they would have more use than the current one on display.
    Mentioned many-a-times.. yet no results

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by ratcat View Post
    I bet this has been mention if it has it must be a good idea.

    Since its part of the rules to wrap formulas and macro script in tags. How about place some buttons on the 'Post Quick Reply' like where the 'Insert link' and the 'Quote' buttons are. I think they would have more use than the current one on display.
    There is a button its the # next to the quote button.

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    Okay, i know if this came a week back it would have been much better, but as they say its better late than never.

    Now we have the option to select the old skin for those who don't like the new one or think its too bright.

    All you have to do is go to the right bottom of any page on the site and select child of 3.7.2 creation for the old theme.

    We are still working for the last few pending changes in the new theme (colours in code and a couple of other changes which are left out).

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Lloyd View Post
    There is a button its the # next to the quote button.
    Not on the quick reply box though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domski View Post
    Not on the quick reply box though.

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    I think he was trying to act smart... and i deleted the other post he did.

    We are working on this and hopefully we should have this feature soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domski View Post
    Not on the quick reply box though.

    Dom
    Yes Dom, Vai has seen fit to delete a post of mine right after it where i say, and i quote "Ooops thats my forum "

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    Not being smart, as i hadn't noticed, i believe its fine for me to say what i did as there isn't a forum link or forum name mention in sight!

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    New solved button added under thread tool

    "Marked this Thread as Solved"
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    Presumably this "button" is not available to all members - only OP & mods ? If not then I'm afraid that is an absurd arrangement.

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    DO... this button enable only for O.P and Mod's.... Not for all member

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    But why they wouldn't have buttons (OP and mods):

    solved.JPG

    This way is intuitive even when user write a first post.

    Otherwise, they would again:
    a) won't make thread solved
    b) ask where to do it

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    I agree with zbor that a button at the head of the thread would make most sense but as long as the functionality is available only to OP & Mods I don't have an issue - a welcome modification either way.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    So Closing a Thread now locks it ? Who came up with that one ?

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    I'm sure there was some sort of consultation process...

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    Not only with the new Marked Solved feature, but even by marking Solved using the Prefix (old methood) locks the thread.... this is starting to really get rediculous!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by romperstomper View Post
    I'm sure there was some sort of consultation process...
    If talking to oneself counts then yeah I guess so

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    Quote Originally Posted by romperstomper View Post
    I'm sure there was some sort of consultation process...
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkeyOte View Post
    If talking to oneself counts then yeah I guess so
    The moderators must have know about the addition but judging by NBVCs reply they didn't know about the functionality.

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    I'm not sure I hate the new MARK AS SOLVED feature locking the thread. It will take some getting used to, but the OP can use the same function MARK AS UNSOLVED and effectively reopen their thread, if needed.

    I know we LIKE to pipe in and add stuff to a solved thread, but it's not automatically bad if we no longer can do so...if the OP is happy and closes their thread, maybe we should all move on...there are many other threads to attend to...

    My two cents.

    I would like to see the MARK AS SOLVED put right on the forum page, too, rather than just in the Thread Tools, but I think it's very usable with the LOCK/UNLOCK thing, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Lloyd View Post
    The moderators must have know about the addition but judging by NBVCs reply they didn't know about the functionality.
    Curious that this doesn't seem to be happening anymore with the old [Solved] method..

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    Could someone mark this thread as SOLVED :P
    ppppphhhhhhhh

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    SOLVED
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    pike, your tag is all over the place in FF. Could you re-work your formatting, please?

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    hi,

    "Mark Thread as solved" option bugs resolved..... now this option not closed your thread.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shub View Post
    hi,

    "Mark Thread as solved" option bugs resolved..... now this option not closed your thread.....
    I'm still a little sad about this one. I was really growing fond of the idea of an OP being able to close their own thread. Oh well... perhaps another option in the THREAD TOOLS available to OP and Mods only... "CLOSE THREAD".

    My #1 wish-list now is getting colors in CODE tags back.

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    I think it's worth noting that the Thread Tools "Mark as solved" does not mark the thread solved the same way, it adds [SOLVED] to the title rather than setting the PREFIX box. I don't know if that will have any other implications...

    http://www.excelforum.com/testing-fo...ml#post2259938

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    Does anyone know what's up with this thread? For me, it goes way over to the right and I have to scroll to see it all, rather than wrapping as other threads do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkyam View Post
    Does anyone know what's up with this thread? For me, it goes way over to the right and I have to scroll to see it all, rather than wrapping as other threads do.
    Since the formula is typed with no spaces, the formula tries to show continuosly until it runs of out of room then continues on next cell..

    I added code tags around it so that it is now "pretty".

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    Before, I thought the max # of consecutive characters allowed was 100 before it automatically added a space to break it up (which led to a couple problems when OPs tried to copy and paste formulas that didn't have code tags). This setting must have gotten changed somehow.

    Thanks for the cleanup.

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    if it was changed, nobody has been told.

    In the old times, when Simon was still managing these things, changes like these would have been dicussed and announced.

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    You show up at a new forum and World War III breaks out. It makes politics seem easy...

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    Having joined the forum a few years ago, and joined the moderating ranks shortly thereafter, I've seen the past two or three management styles. Those who've been around longer probably remember more.

    While I don't agree with some of the methods used in implementing the new skin/functionality, I'm willing to let those who pay for the site control how it is managed. Are there things I would like see changed - the forum groupings, for one - sure. Could there have been better preparation, definitely. Better communication to the moderators at a minimum - you bet.

    There is a great group of people here that enjoy volunteering their time helping others, and I for one will do so whether there is a pink background, variable width code fonts or multiple icon sets. As for moderation, some may choose not to stick around - and all the power to them, it's 100% their choice - I do it because I must have some obsessive gene to control things. It kills me that I can't go to other Excel forums and slap some people around.

    I recognize that this site is a business, and businesses can prosper or fail, improve or degrade, it happens all the time in real life. The key to this business is to 1) attract new "customers" and 2) to keep the helpful ones sticking around to help those from group 1. You can't please everyone all the time. Most new users will never even know, outside of reading this thread, that anything ever changed at all. Whether that's to their benefit or not is yet to be seen.

    Sorry for the novella, but I just feel everyone needs to be patient as fixes are applied to something that has already happened and is not going to be undone. Bring up the fixes that should still be done, perhaps in a follow-up post every few days; but realize that some things are truly not the end of the world when it comes to attracting people to the site. Font adjustments, multi-browser 100% compatibility, coloring,.. all nice to have. I guarantee none of them, if advertised on some Excel recruiting site, would influence someone needing help on their budget spreadsheet due in 12 hours to skip ExcelForum.com and go somewhere else, though.

    Just my feelings, in my laid-back midwesterner style. Keep on postin'.

    P.S. The thing that brought me to this site back in 2007 was how helpful the people were, not the site design. I started answering users' questions immediately as best I could, and enjoyed the feedback from those smarter than me as they came up with awesome formulas and macros. I was proud to have been asked to join the moderating team after some time, and have enjoyed the time I've spent helping others and helping the forum. Cheers.

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    well said ........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    Having joined the forum a few years ago, and joined the moderating ranks shortly thereafter, I've seen the past two or three management styles. Those who've been around longer probably remember more.

    While I don't agree with some of the methods used in implementing the new skin/functionality, I'm willing to let those who pay for the site control how it is managed. Are there things I would like see changed - the forum groupings, for one - sure. Could there have been better preparation, definitely. Better communication to the moderators at a minimum - you bet.
    Totally agree with you Paul, things could have been much better if it was all discussed with mods, lesson learnt

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    P.S. The thing that brought me to this site back in 2007 was how helpful the people were, not the site design. I started answering users' questions immediately as best I could, and enjoyed the feedback from those smarter than me as they came up with awesome formulas and macros. I was proud to have been asked to join the moderating team after some time, and have enjoyed the time I've spent helping others and helping the forum. Cheers.
    I am sure people still come to the board and see similar helpful nature and become a part of this ever growing community !!
    Last edited by teylyn; 02-25-2010 at 08:29 PM. Reason: fixed quote tag

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    I'm here for the coffee, too. Don't forget the coffee!

    (beans...glorious beans....)

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    Remember, Decaf is your friend, JB.

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    tea, milk ,2 sugars in a mug better than that yuppie coffee stuff. lol

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    cold beer or a wiki Mojito if theres only warm beer

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    It seems to me that the links at the top of the page (under the main menu, the ones that say: Excel Help forum >> Microsoft Office Application Help etc) no longer work in Firefox? I'm sure they were OK yesterday...(still work in IE7)

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    Odd. They work just fine for me.

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    Which version of FF? (I'm on 3.6)

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    I'm on 3.5.8

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    RO' working for me in ff

    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100202 Firefox/3.5.8 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)

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    Just discovered it works fine in the old style skin, so I'll use that. (also OK in Chrome). Crisis over!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    Remember, Decaf is your friend, JB.
    What!?!?!
    (Paul reported to the authorities...)


    Hehe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by R
    Just discovered it works fine in the old style skin, so I'll use that. (also OK in Chrome). Crisis over!
    Yes, I confess I'm using the old skin (Chrome) as far as I can tell everything works ... colour coding etc etc ... the fact that only I and others running the old skin can see the colour is of no concern....

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    wow i've got the old skin back. i can see again!

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    I must have missed something. How does one get the old skin back?

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    Scroll down to the very bottom of any forum page and find the drop-down box near the bottom of the page. Select "Child of 3.7.2 creation" and you'll see the old skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkyam View Post
    I must have missed something. How does one get the old skin back?
    I think it's mentioned in this thread somewhere, but just scroll right down to the bottom of the page, and clcik on the dropdown in the blue bit, and select "Child of 3.7.2 creation".

    Voila!!

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    Awesome! Thank you both!

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    Marking a thread solved then unsolved causes a parsing problem with titles that have & in them
    Quick Tips &amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp; Tricks For Excel 2007

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    Awwww, come on!

    NBVC & Andy,
    I am sorry to see you guys step down and I do hope you stick around & keep providing the formulaic, charting & other gems that you've put up in the past.


    *sigh*
    Vaibhav/Shub,
    I have absolutely no idea why NBVC & Andy have stepped down - it could be any number of reasons - for example, their kids growing up or business commitments etc. I have no real idea, but I do suspect some of their sentiments may be reflected within this thread & I agree whole heartedly with Simon...

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Lloyd View Post
    Vai, if you are checking this thread....DO SOMETHING NOW!, it's sad that shg stepped down but now that others are following is very bad for this forum
    Others may disagree, but I think improved communication is the most important thing for you (the development team) to achieve. So, I look forward to seeing your next report on the progress towards completing the concerns mentioned throughout this thread.


    Rob
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    Vai, I second what Rob said, and I'm sure all the regulars will agree. You're starting to have a real problem on your hands with immensely respected and long-term moderators dropping. I really hope this is a wake up call to those who run this site; otherwise, this site may sleep forever.

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    ppppppppppphhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

    Is this the joke thread??

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    that still leaves a quality field of active mods
    teylyn, Ron Coderre, Richard Buttrey, rylo, oldchippy, daddylonglegs, davesexcel, dominicb, mikerickson, Paul and Leith Ross (I didnt include mudraker as he hasnt been seen this year)
    OVER one thrid GONESKI
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    and how could i have forgotten royUK

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    I'm not saying we don't have a bunch of good mods left. We certainly do, and I meant no disrespect at all to them. What I'm saying is when the people who've been with this site the longest and have contributed the most don't want to be mods anymore, there's a significant issue. That's four that have dropped in the last few months. That's a big turnover, especially considering for the first year and a half I've been here, the only change I can remember is Simon not being an Admin anymore.

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    ... would the last one please remember to turn off the lights!

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    also cant leave out arthurbr ... still in good shape

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    The Log Out link at the bottom of forums, home and threads don't work, in fact if it wasn't for the top marker (#) the link at the bottom of this page would take you to subscriptions!

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    "Back to top" doesn't work in the footer

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    And the hyperlinks at the top of the page that I mentioned don't work on an iPhone and nor does the Skin switcher. I appreciate that won't be a top priority!

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Hi Vaibhav,

    I have another Change Request based on my last post & the subsequent responses...

    Would it be possible to provide a second line for the User Titles where, if the person wants to, they can tick a check box in their profile which will then show the line "Retired Moderator" in their User Title?
    I've seen this in some other Forums (see example) & I like the idea as it shows the level & quality of involvement that a member has had on the Forum.

    hth
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Vai, shub, its been 5 days now and we haven't heard from you, how are the updates progressing? is the solved issue fixed yet? how about the other issues ? we'd like to hear from you.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Simon
    Vai and shub have been banned for violiation of rule

    13. Cross promotion/Links of any competitor forums to www.excelforum.com in signature of any member are NOT allowed.

    The "Google adds" has a link to Mr Excel and every other competitor forum on the web

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Lol, maybe they have gone there to post the much needed info for this thread!

    I guess they want this thread to die and therefore give them an easier life without having to resolve issues, i ponted out a couple of minor ones that are as easy to fix as changing a url.

    They have promised communication and to be honest all through this thread thats ALL anyone wanted, just to be informed, consulted and fed back to and........not to be guinea pigs!

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Lloyd View Post
    The Log Out link at the bottom of forums, home and threads don't work, in fact if it wasn't for the top marker (#) the link at the bottom of this page would take you to subscriptions!
    Done......

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Lloyd View Post
    "Back to top" doesn't work in the footer
    Done......

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Thanks shub but you missed one!
    top.gif

    The warning about attaching sensitive data is missing too!

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Hmmm inline images is turned off too in this skin

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Problem with disappearing post(s)...

    Admins:

    I helped an OP resolve an issue in this thread:
    http://www.excelforum.com/excel-gene...-not-sure.html

    And my last post giving instructions on how to mark the thread as SOLVED was there, then it wasn't. It seems to have deleted itself.

    Not sure if this is happening elsewhere but it is a serious concern, I'd say, so I thought you'd want to know.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by JBeaucaire View Post
    Problem with disappearing post(s)...

    Admins:

    I helped an OP resolve an issue in this thread:
    http://www.excelforum.com/excel-gene...-not-sure.html

    And my last post giving instructions on how to mark the thread as SOLVED was there, then it wasn't. It seems to have deleted itself.

    Not sure if this is happening elsewhere but it is a serious concern, I'd say, so I thought you'd want to know.
    Are you sure it got posted ?
    There are no deleted posts there...
    Last edited by Vaibhav; 03-05-2010 at 07:04 PM.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Vai, I believe it was removed by another member, if you choose "Edit Thread" you will see the history.

    (a physical delete & soft delete are two very different actions)

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    How can a user delete a post? I know I can't do that...

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    The post was deleted by a senior member who has more editing permissions,not sure why because I didn't see the post. IMO the OP will not return to add solved, he/she is obviously extremely busy & important,hence no time to read the Forum Rules and necessity to x-post
    Hope that helps.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    JBeaucaire,

    Since you insist on making it a public issue....

    The mystery is now over.. It is I who deleted your post.

    I found it offensive that you decided to take a jab at me in the thread solely for the purpose of ensuring the poster notices your need to request reputation boost. It might have been obvious already to Roy and to the OP that I made the same request to the OP about crossposting rules.. so what!

    I could have also reported you for inserting your comments in a thread where a Mod asked user to fix their infraction. Did I?

    Hope you can sleep now knowing how your important post got removed.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    NBVC,

    Noticed something similar. I hope it's just a fase.
    http://www.excelforum.com/excel-prog...ntire-row.html

    Quote Originally Posted by rwgrietveld
    Yes can be done with VBA. Not by formula. Want to go in that direction?
    Quote Originally Posted by JBeaucaire
    Heh...that's probably why this Q is in the programming forum.
    For my the isn't that obvious as too many general questions are posted in the Programming Forum (and visa versa).
    Don't know how to prevent that, but I guess this must be a lot of work for the admin/mod's.
    Last edited by rwgrietveld; 03-06-2010 at 09:25 AM.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    You know guys, sometimes things are simpler than they may at first appear. I'm not as complex as you seem to believe.

    NBVC, I didn't know it was you who deleted anything. I didn't realize I was taking anything public, this was an actual concern voiced exactly as I perceived it. I thought something was wrong with the forum and the new stuff...that's it.

    I don't recall the jab you're referring to, but if I came across as "jabbing" in something, then of course, absolutely, I do apologize. Truly. Text in a forum always reads as harsher and meaner than the same words spoken, this I do know.

    So, if you (or anyone) ever read something of mine and it reads as offensive, that is never, not ever my intent. I can be as sarcastic as the next guy, I admit, but my real-life demeanor makes those moments patently clear, something missing from a text post.

    As in Ricardo's example above, nothing untoward was meant by that either. If we were all working in an office together, doing this exact same thing, saying these exact same kinds of things, we would receive these thoughts as much less offensive. Do you know what I mean?

    Anyway, while I keep my good spirits about me, I apologize whole-heartedly if anyone misconstrues or overconstrues anything I've said. If there is any way to read something posted on the forum as less-offensive than first reaction...THAT's what I meant. I promise.

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    As such I will speak my points honestly and without reservation, just as I would if we were in a conference room together. If we view each other as teammates and not competitors or irritants, I believe we all benefit from the feedback. All of it, even the stuff we don't like.
    Last edited by JBeaucaire; 03-06-2010 at 06:50 PM.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    JBeaucaire,

    Thank you for clearing that up. I was not really offended by it , but I thought it was unnecessary. Not being a native English speaker myself (and without an English Master degree) I sometimes miss the nuance. I'm glad I mentioned it and I appreciate your reply.

    Ricardo

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Vai & Shub,

    Any updates?

    I'd also like to know if the "Latest Posts" section along the left side of the page can be removed. It's just wasted space.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Paul i think that we will have to live with many of the requests and bugs mentioned in this thread, there seems to be no movement on repairing any of these faults.

    Of course if Vai wants to hire me to fix some stuff every man has his price!, i think

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Somebody's going to have to go and sit on the naughty step if they're not careful

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Quote Originally Posted by teylyn View Post
    BTW: www.ozgrid.com is also a great resource.
    I know it used to be. Since they switched to a pay-per-thread model and with Dave being the only moderator, I honestly like this site much better, functionality issues included. Still some good answers and good contributors on it, though.

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    The Ozgrid is still great for resources!

    Great going Simon !!
    How about the hymn Teylyn and maybe I'm old fashioned, but a forum through a Mobile phone interface ?? Can someone please explain why? To me that would result in untested, short sentence replies.
    Last edited by rwgrietveld; 03-11-2010 at 09:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwgrietveld View Post
    The Ozgrid is still great for resources!

    Great going Simon !!
    How about the hymn Teylyn and maybe I'm old fashioned, but a forum through a Mobile phone interface ?? Can someone please explain why? To me that would result in untested, short sentence replies.
    Many people work etc. on the run so keeping up with the use of a PDA or mobile is really handy, most sites that you view through these devices aren't full functional (as it really doesn't translate that well to mobile) but are FULL text, so in answer no its not short text snippets, you're confusing it with sms an entirely different interface

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Hi

    I am still quite new to the forum but might I suggest a minor addition to the new format?

    When I go
    Find all posts by Marcol
    The returned list is fine, but would it be possible to add the OP to the Thread Title/Header?

    It tells me I posted it!, but to who?

    With so many similar titles, I at least, would find this a great help.

    Respectfully
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    @Marcol, the List Subscriptions within your User CP will provide a list of threads you have posted in, thread title and OP.

    Of course you will have to turn on your subscription option.
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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Thanks Andy

    I didn't know this.

    Subscription usually suggests money to me! Something I have very little of !!!

    I'll give it a go

    EDIT
    I wondered how you guys did it!
    This will save me ages ploughing through old posts, and it's FREE!

    Many Thanks
    Last edited by Marcol; 03-11-2010 at 01:02 PM. Reason: Result!

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    Re: Feedback : New design for the Board

    Oddly enough, the 'Latest Posts' section along the left-hand side is there in IE8, but not there in Firefox 3.5.8. I wonder if it's because I'm using AdBlocker Plus in Firefox, or if it's just another one of those "works in one browser but not others" deal.

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