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Or this one... 89 posts and counting... (I'd have walked away long before 89 posts...)
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Yep, those are the ones.. often they start so innocently,... you’d never guess what lies ahead ....
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I think there's a pattern: whenever someone assesses their own issue as a "small" one or one that must be "easy" to resolve, it's usually because (a) they know it isn't, really, but don't want to put potential helpers off, or (b) they are clueless.
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What amuses me (is that the right term? hmm yes, lets just say amuses) is when the OP starts out with what really is a simple question, and when you answer - oh, I forgot to mention, I also need it to do (****) insert task ...
or, the other 1...well, I made my sample data simple, but in reality, it bares no resemblance at all to my real data...
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Yes, that's the forum equivalent of a shaggy dog story ...
I think we have all noticed that when you take the time and effort to carefully prepare a question , then you often answer all or best part of your question yourself. So it is a sad fact that in many case the short badly detailed question is just a quick “trying your luck” to see if someone will do your work for you.
But not always , it can be very difficult and frustrating sometimes to know how / what to ask when you are new or asking in a subject area you know nothing about. . I have asked in Forums on subjects I know nothing about, and you can really get hammered by intolerant, impatient helpers.
We definitely have a higher level of patience and tolerance than most.
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... OP is given a job to do .. He has not quite figured out what he is being askled to do. Someone who does understand what needs to be done helps him and gives him the code to do it. The OP posts the code and says it does not work. The OP gives no more detail as he has not figured out yet what it is supposed to do.. Lol....
In RL you would probably tell him to go and make the coffee or sweep the yard clean...
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Yes. I have found the phrase "Basically what I need ...." is also a tip-off.I think there's a pattern: whenever someone assesses their own issue as a "small" one or one that must be "easy" to resolve, it's usually because (a) they know it isn't, really, but don't want to put potential helpers off, or (b) they are clueless.
Very true. This has happened to me several times when composing my own question for this forum. Maybe I'm just really **** retentive but it seems like few people have the discipline to write a really good question. (OTOH I resolved a CS question last week that was very well-written.)
I have also noticed that when a question says, "I hope this makes sense," it almost never does.
To ask a really good question you need to know most of the answer before you start asking.
Alf
Another thought.
I wonder how many of the "easy", "small", "basically" and "hope this makes sense" tip offs aren't due to OPs feeling intimidated by what they see here. I know I was when I first came to the forum .... well I still am sometimes.
Does that make sense? Hee, hee, hee.
Another thought.
I wonder how many of the "easy", "small", "basically" and "hope this makes sense" tip offs aren't due to OPs feeling intimidated by what they see here. I know I was when I first came to the forum .... well I still am sometimes.
Does that make sense? Hee, hee, hee.
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And me, too, also, as well
Some probably boil down to the fact that if you dont even know what tools exist, how would you know what to ask for?
I'm not talking about the symptom of someone who doesn't know the tool needed to solve a problem. That is actually the kind of question I love.
The problem is more when people don't really clearly understand the problem they are trying to solve in the first place, so they really don't even know what to ask. The description of the problem is so scattered that it's hard to even figure out what they need. Here is a made-up example, but I have seen questions that are incredibly similar to this:
I have three sheets and the names on the first sheet have to match the numbers on the third sheet. But the names on the second sheet are in a different order. How do I get the numbers I need?
Lol: https://www.excelforum.com/excel-for...ml#post4617010
I don't know how you answered that one with nothing to go on.
It's all done with mirrors and crystal balls
Indeed. i never saw the point of PRODUCT, until yesterday (never having had the need to find out how to use it)And me, too, also, as well
Some probably boil down to the fact that if you dont even know what tools exist, how would you know what to ask for?
https://www.excelforum.com/excel-for...ml#post4618181
So thanks, MrS....
I guess the years of, and level of, experience of some Member is such that in some cases they can recognise a project and guess what is wanted even when virtually no details are given. This ability makes the rest of convinced that they can mind read.It's all done with mirrors and crystal balls
But an OP that badly prepares his question and gets and just takes a working solution on a plate really cheats himself of a great chance to learn...
I wish someone had rammed VBA down my throat when I started with Excel, I probably would have saved a year’s worth of time. An Excel spreadsheet is just a very restricted version of some VBA codes, at least in the way it is used by many people.
Last edited by Doc.AElstein; 03-31-2017 at 02:47 AM.
Very true Alan. "In the land of the blind, the 1-eyed man is king"
Hi !
Sometimes it's really hard to answer and stay cool :
few days ago on a local forum I've been warned my code does not work on rainy days !
So I had no word to answer except expecting sunny days ‼
RE: the main topic, this is an ideal example of "Feature creep" and it is undoubtedly ushered in by the "...one more thing" introduction.
My common answer when the new thing is truly a new feature is often, "That seems like a new idea for a new thread. Let's mark this one solved."
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_....." That sounds like a great idea for a new thread !!
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Hey, I was awesome in that thread
...LolHey, I was Awesome in that thread
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Us.. Yous.. Wot?
Nub of a Song: who is yous "who made yous" _Who_Is_Yous yeh..... awesome? ....wot you think?? I can play it .... The drums.. ( and sing it ) Can you Guitar it .. awesome, ..hey - ( need to cut out a string or two or three ? ) ?? Let's cover it :-) !
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Yes you were. I was afraid to post that here until you said it.Hey, I was awesome in that thread
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