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    Re: Need a Java Forum as good as Excelforum

    Hi Dave,
    Not yet!
    My approach is to have a general feel for the language before I go in to specific areas. My focus has been on the lasts versions and advanced level of C#.
    Correct me if I am wrong, why do I need to lean Forms while they have been or will be replaced by WPF?

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    It's horses for courses, winforms are less of a culture shock than WPF if you're coming from a VBA background.

    If I were starting again, I'd start with console applications in C# and work up, it's much easier to learn the language when you don't have to deal with all the additional complexities of whichever GUI framework you decide upon.

    Also, it's pretty easy to get caught up in things like design patterns, best practice and the "best way of doing things", programmers seem to have strong opinions on the so called "best way" (read their way). It's much better just to start programming things, you'll do things the hard way and all the design patterns will start to make sense - you'll have those eureka moments when you think ah! that's why that pattern exists - you'll remember it then and have a much better understanding up why it use it and what problem it solves.

    @Dave, how are you finding Xamarin? I need to develop a multi-platform app for work and am evaluating the various options - I was fairly settled on using the ionic framework with cordova, but I think I'm coming around to a more native application due to needing better integration with GPS, the camera and an offline database.

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    Hi Kyle,
    You are absolutely spot on!
    I have a bad habit of drifting. I was caught up on the debate "Composition versus inheritance" and somehow ended up on "Designs Patterns".

    Most developers are highly opinionated people. Some of them have "My way or the high way" attitude. They seem to spend lots of time thrashing each other and bickering over which language is better than another one. I am focusing on C# and would avoid to get caught up on such pointless debate.

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    Re: Need a Java Forum as good as Excelforum

    @Kyle,You can use Xamarin.Forms project for your UI. You can code your UI in either C# code or through a XAML (which as you know is almost the same as WPF XAML, slight differences in naming of a few controls and does some different features, but really this is a non issue) Doing something like this will allow you to have Cross-Platform UI. I am still learning about all this, but from what I can see, it seems to be the best way to use the language you are strongest in (I am still relatively new to Java) to do your code behind. I don't WinForms type code behind BTW. I am finding that XAML is so much better at creating the UI then using code behind and WinForms. I could not comment as to if this would be the better way to go for your project, as you know way more than me, but I am not finding the transition that difficult, which could be something to keep in mind, especially when Xamarin is so versatile.

    @AB33. I agree with Kyle, start on console apps and work your way to WPF. Don't bother with WinForms, even though as Kyle states, it is much less of a culture shock to start in WinForms, but the issue is that it is old tech and people these days are tending to move towards WPF and Xamarin.
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