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    Meaning of some English phrases

    I never heard of the verb "To tie the knot" in my early age of English learning during 90's.
    Is it a newly created phrase?

    Where should we use it ? as there is an old word "To marry"
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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    It's a very old expression, but it is still widely used by all age groups. It means to get married. We also say 'to get hitched'.

    We also say 'to wed', which is a bit old-fashioned, and 'to marry'.
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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/tie-the-knot.html
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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    @AliGW
    Thanks for adding more synonyms for the phrase. "Get hitched" is what I came to know today.

    @sir shg

    Thanks for the great phrase searching link.


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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    You're welcome! Anything linguistic is right up my street.

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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    Quote Originally Posted by AliGW View Post
    You're welcome! Anything linguistic is right up my street.
    Because you are native.
    And my situation is that in order to understand the phrase in red I have to search it in shg's link

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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    Etymology is the keyword if you're looking for the origin of a word or phrase. There are many good sites on line.

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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    Quote Originally Posted by ImranBhatti View Post
    Because you are native.
    I am a native English speaker, but not all native English speakers are interested in etymology and linguistics. I, on the other hand, am a languages graduate and use languages (French and German, actually) every day in my job. So, don't make assumptions - you may well be wrong!!!

    Feel free to ask anything here in The Water Cooler.

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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    Thanks you much @sir shg. It is great keyword and found many sites to search the confusing phrases.

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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    The below video is an interesting watch; (mods, hopefully a link to a YouTube video isn't against the rules?) It asks the question "what if English was phonetically consistent?" I read that learning English as a second language is one of the harder linguistic feats as English is rife with inconsistencies, idioms, colloquialisms and every manner of exception; we native speakers don't recognize how complex our tongue can be, e.g.: "bomb," "comb" and "womb," three words that are visually nearly identical, but are pronounced completely differently and utterly unrelated.

    https://youtu.be/A8zWWp0akUU

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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    Yes - the 'ough' combination is full of pitfalls: rough, cough, through, thorough, bough, bought, tough, etc.

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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    Now a days we have internet but I remember my school time English teacher( not from England but who taught me English) told me the famous tongue twister "Betty bater bought some butter, but she says butter is bitter, so she bought butter better than the bitter butter."

    He suggested this because I complaint that I can't understand the English actors accent.
    lolzzz none of us (students) was able to say this initially.

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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    You could try these:

    Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled pepper.
    She sells seashells on the seashore.

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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    It will take time to perfect them

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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    Would that I were taught at Harrow sitting beside Mr. WS Churchill

    "First Year at Harrow" was one of the stories taught us in our 12th class.
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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    Odd.

    No one had to mention "water cooler". (It's like we all just know!)
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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    Quote Originally Posted by AliGW View Post
    (French and German, actually) every day in my job.

    Feel free to ask anything here in The Water Cooler.
    Great!

    Never needed French but once needed German (while working in an NGO and I was a caretaker in the hostel of the organization) to talk with some German visitors/guests. But I came to know that it is very difficult than English. There are dozens of pronouns and many umlauts
    The only sentences that I still remember are
    1"Ich ben Imran" ( I am Imran)
    2 "Auf Wiedazien" (Goodbye)

    If I am not wrong.
    But one thing I still admire about German language that it is hell beautiful while speaking.

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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    I love speaking German - I lived there for a year as part of my degree.

    Ich bin Imran (or Ich heiße Imran).
    Auf Wiedersehen.

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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    Specially the Rolling R's show power.

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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    Quote Originally Posted by ImranBhatti View Post
    ... it is hell beautiful while speaking.
    I would certainly hesitate to call it "beautiful", but it does have some fab words. My favourite two words, in any language, being …

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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    It can be beautiful - most people think of Hitler's harsh Austrian delivery, of course, but most German doesn't sound anything like that. There are beautiful words in German, too, not least of which is Schmetterling, which is beautiful in every language I know: papillon, farfalla, mariposa, butterfly.

    Here's a wonderfully graphic German compound noun: Durchfall (literally through-fall). I'll leave you to look it up ...

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    Re: Meaning of some English phrases

    Quote Originally Posted by AliGW View Post

    Here's a wonderfully graphic German compound noun: Durchfall (literally through-fall). I'll leave you to look it up ...
    ... welp, yeah... I guess that makes sense.

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