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    Strange

    Visiting the forum this morning I got this message why? As most of my time in this forum is spent trying to solve problems not asking for help.

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    Re: Strange

    Alf, hard to see your pic (it's very small), but it is probably a banner I was asked to put up to help new members learn how to upload a file.
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    Re: Strange

    I don't think we need this banner in the watercooler section.



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    Re: Strange

    If you don't like the banner, hit the cross top right to dismiss it.
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    Re: Strange

    I can't see the cross to dismiss it.

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    Re: Strange

    Nor can I - must have been seeing things!

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    Re: Strange

    Quote Originally Posted by AliGW View Post
    Nor can I - must have been seeing things!
    It was there yesterday, it is not there today.

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    Re: Strange

    Only seen the banner for the first time this morning ... and no red cross.
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    Re: Strange

    Alf, hard to see your pic
    Hi Ford

    Right click on pic and select "Open image in new tab". This works for Chrome at least

    probably a banner I was asked to put up to help new members learn how to upload a file
    The idea behind this is a good one but the way the tech time implemented it leaves a bit to be desired. For new posters it is as I said a good idea but if you have spent years trying to solve problem in the forum is feels a bit strange.

    Should there not be a filter based on something like number of postings one has or days between registering and posting date perhaps?

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    Re: Strange

    The idea behind this is a good one but the way the tech time implemented it leaves a bit to be desired. For new posters it is as I said a good idea but if you have spent years trying to solve problem in the forum is feels a bit strange.

    Should there not be a filter based on something like number of postings one has or days between registering and posting date perhaps?
    Mmmm ... the Tech Team and implementing (stuff) in the same sentence. Now, there's a thought

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    Re: Strange

    There was a red cross. It dropped off somewhere along the way... I'm hugely in favour of the banner, as I can only understand what I see. I can't follow paragraphs of fractured text - especially when the poster is a non-native English speaker - and haven't the patience to retype pictures.
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    Re: Strange

    Ford implemented it - the tech team had nothing to do with it.

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    Re: Strange

    He he ...
    the tech team had nothing to do with it.
    No surprise there

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    Re: Strange

    None whatsoever!!!

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    Mmmm ... the Tech Team and implementing (stuff) in the same sentence. Now, there's a thought
    Sorry about that oxymoron

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    Re: Strange

    Just exclude element 'excelforum.com###navbar_notice_55' in your favourite adblocking tool, to suppress it once you've read it.
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    Re: Strange

    I originally included the option to dismiss it, but then figured that any newbie that "just dismisses" it, wont see it again. For the regulars, just ignore it, as soon as you scroll down, you wont see it.

    (cant please all the people, all the time)

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    Re: Strange

    It pleases me - I lose count of the number of first responses using the canned "Attach a sample workbook" message. If we could get everyone to update their Excel version in their profile, too, it would make helping much easier!

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    Re: Strange

    Grand job, Ford. Happy to have it made permanent. The ability to attach stuff was what brought me here to get help 6 or 7 years ago.

    A few of those who helped me so much back then are still very active today!!

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    Re: Strange

    I have no problems with it being there. Not wishing to be a damp squib, I do have serious doubts about how much it will help, but I suppose every little helps, as they say at Tesco.

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    Re: Strange

    Takes up quite a bit of room when checking out the forum on mobile/tablet.
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    Re: Strange

    Quote Originally Posted by Norie View Post
    Takes up quite a bit of room when checking out the forum on mobile/tablet.

    True, but as Ford said... just scroll on down.

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    Re: Strange

    Condition your brain not to see it ...

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    Re: Strange

    See what?????

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    Re: Strange

    That's what most of our members would say ...

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    You old cynic, you....

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    Moi? A cynic?


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    Re: Strange

    The message in the banner cops out a bit at the end, as there are no on-screen instructions on the Upload window - just a few buttons on opposite sides of the screen, with no clear direction on what to do with them (and why do we have a list of files and file sizes that can be uploaded ?). It would be better if that screen was redesigned, but I suppose that would be down to the Tech Team to implement, so perhaps the banner should spell out more clearly what to do when you get to the Upload Window.

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    Re: Strange

    I see that the banner can now be dismissed using the red cross at the extreme right.

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    I hadn't noticed! But then, I'd trained my brain not to see the banner, anyway ...

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    Re: Strange

    Yes, I didn't see it at first.

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    Mmm. And it doesn't seem to come back. I think that's a mistake. I'd leave it there permanently.

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    I thought it would just be dismissed for this session, and then come back when you next logged on, but you are right, Glenn - it seems to have gone completely.

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    Re: Strange

    With uBlock Origin you get rid of advertisements and can create a rule very simply to eliminate things you don't want to see / need

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    Re: Strange

    Hey Ford ... thanks a ton for this. It appears to be working. I can not recall having to use my canned response since you posted that banner.
    Hope it stays that way.
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    Re: Strange

    OK I made the banner dismissable yesterday (Oct 28.)

    Show of hands (or a poll maybe?) on it it should be perm or not?

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    I'm 100% with Dave. I liked it from the start and I, too, am convinced that it reprsents a big improvement. But.... also make it non-dismissable once more. The "business" of the Forum is to help others. A little incovenience (esp on a phone or similar) for us, to have to scroll down beyond it, is a very small price to pay for getting to the point where we can provide a solution FASTER and with LESS PAIN and FRUSTRATION is well worth it.

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    Re: Strange

    I'm happy to go with the majority. Not convinced it's having much effect just by being there, but people are using its presence instead of canned messages to get the message across (i.e. pointing to it). No harm in its being there. I am still (mostly) using my canned message.

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    Re: Strange

    Can it be made dismissable, but to return each time you log on? That would be my preference. I've still used my canned replies while it has been displayed, and I had learned to mentally dismiss it while it was up.

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    Re: Strange

    OK I removed the "dismissable", but also changed it to show only once per session.

    See how that works?

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    Re: Strange

    TbH... I'd leave it there permanently. But it's much better than having no banner....

    Edit: since the banner can "come and go" I think that devalues it. You can no longer say "Look at the banner", as it may have disappearred from the User's screen for that "session"; and you'll be left looking like an idiot.

    We need to remember that it's there for the benefit, not of us, but of new/inexperienced users and (especially) for non-native English speakers.

    There are, fundamentally, really only two choices regarding the banner's fate. Anything else is confusing. they are: Dump It or Keep It. I am 100% for Keep It. Always. Non-dismissable.
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    Re: Strange

    I am 100% for Keep It. Always. Non-dismissable.
    Me too. Especially feel that way because of a noticeable increase of wb attachments without prompting for them.

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    Re: Strange

    OK, point taken, it is once again not dismissable.

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    Re: Strange

    Great job! Many thanks!!

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    Re: Strange

    10-4 ... me too.

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