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    if anyone takes offense....

    if there are any complaints about me answering questions here, let me know and I will disappear. I'm assuming not, but you never know....

    thanks.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    Since you have raised it publicly, as you already know from private exchanges with me, there were a few complaints about the rather unhelpful nature of some comments that you made a while back, along the lines of, "you must work it out for yourself" and so on. However, there have been none recently, as you have tempered your approach, for which I am sure those who complained are grateful. However, let's be very clear: there have been NO complaints about any solutions that you have offered, for which we and those you helped are very grateful. Try to keep things in perspective, please, Adam. You will see from the nature of the rep comments you have had so far that there is a lot of positive: let's try to keep it that way.
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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    Quote Originally Posted by AliGW View Post
    You will see from the nature of the rep comments you have had so far that there is a lot of positive: let's try to keep it that way.
    I'll try my best. I won't intentionally cause any issues. and keep in mind, I don't care one bit about reputation. I help for other reasons.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    So do most of us, and I didn't say you did (there you go making assumptions again). However, the comments are a good weather vein, which is why I suggested you look at them.

    I won't intentionally cause any issues ...
    I'm sure you won't. Two things to bear in mind, then:

    1. On a forum, we have no body language or facial clues to help us read your comments, so you have to be careful how you express yourself, so ...
    2. Take the time to re-read what you have written before hitting SAVE.

    We have all fallen foul of this in the past to some extent.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    Quote Originally Posted by AliGW View Post
    (there you go making assumptions again)
    I'm just doing what the world does. I don't fit in otherwise.

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    We have all fallen foul of this in the past to some extent.
    i'm sure.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    I don't fit in otherwise.
    I suppose it depends what you mean by "fit in".

    Anyway, I hope that what I have said above has reassured you that you are not on some hit list or other.
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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    Quote Originally Posted by AliGW View Post
    I don't fit in otherwise.
    I suppose it depends what you mean by "fit in".
    I'm not a typical developer. at least not like 99% of them that I have known and/or worked with in the last 20 years. most don't talk to people, can't explain themselves, don't understand / don't want to know about business goals, etc, etc.... and I've never understood that about them. whenever I have to deal with them, I just find a workaround. I've also known many that think they literally know everything. but alas, the best hacker in the world can use human beings to get in, not code.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliGW View Post
    Anyway, I hope that what I have said above has reassured you that you are not on some hit list or other.
    well good! I haven't seen a firearm in years. although there are many that hate me the world over. but that's to be expected.
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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    although there are many that hate me the world over
    You see, this is what I don't get: why are you so keen to portray this negative image of yourself? You do seem to wear it as some sort of badge of honour!

    but that's to be expected.
    What is it about your opinion of yourself that makes you think that people should dislike you so much? Or even care enough to have an opinion? Is it a case of notoriety being better than finding yourself to be persona non grata?

    I think you are probably over-thinking the whole thing.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    Quote Originally Posted by AliGW View Post
    why are you so keen to portray this negative image of yourself?
    I don't. it is because of who I am that I am saying this. but most of this talk comes from a religiously-oriented life, and that talk has no place on this board.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliGW View Post
    You do seem to wear it as some sort of badge of honour!
    I have an answer for this. However, i can't say that here because it would be offensive to someone, no doubt. If you want to know, PM me. no other way.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliGW View Post
    What is it about your opinion of yourself that makes you think that people should dislike you so much?
    again, same answer as above. but it's not that they dislike me, but rather, when they meet me, they become confused. and that's to be expected too. if you want further explanation, again you'll have to PM. but you've said you don't want me to PM you anymore, and vice versa.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliGW View Post
    I think you are probably over-thinking the whole thing.
    I do that *all the time*. this instance is no different.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    Ali makes a very good point regarding needing to take care over how thoughts are expressed in writing. All any of us see is words on a screen, and more often than not, those words get filtered by our own internal perspective on the world.

    I have seen (more often than I can count), the same words/message/question be interpreted literally 4 or 5 different ways by 4 or 5 different people - it often fascinates me when something is read in a way that I never even considered.

    Again to agree with Ali, I have heard no/zero/nix/nada/nil complaints about any solutions you have offered.

    Probably the biggest take-away from this is to be not quite so sensitive about comments that are made - you (and others) have probably interpreted them in an unintended way. If you are in any doubt - and feel strongly enough - ask for clarification on what was said (in a constructive was, of course)

    My final comment here would be to express admiration for you posting this comment in the 1st place (read line above about asking for clarification), I appreciate that you raised this, rather than just sitting back and letting resentment build.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    Quote Originally Posted by FDibbins View Post
    I have seen (more often than I can count), the same words/message/question be interpreted literally 4 or 5 different ways by 4 or 5 different people - it often fascinates me when something is read in a way that I never even considered.
    you may not realize it Dibbins, but the reason this occurs is for a religious reason. you can expect more ""strangeness"" in the future, and I'm sure it's right around the corner. I'd post a link to a news article that's proof of this, but probably not a good idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by FDibbins View Post
    Probably the biggest take-away from this is to be not quite so sensitive about comments that are made - you (and others) have probably interpreted them in an unintended way. If you are in any doubt - and feel strongly enough - ask for clarification on what was said (in a constructive was, of course)
    I'm a rare case. I don't take offense to anything. That's a complete waste of life. 99% of the world does it by default, why follow the masses?

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    keep up the good work!!
    I don't take compliments well, but thanks. Ali asked me about this and I'd rather not answer. I'll let you guys figure that one out.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    Ali asked me about this and I'd rather not answer.
    Which is fine. I hope that you can now mark this thread as solved.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    you may not realize it Dibbins, but the reason this occurs is for a religious reason.
    I am not religious in the slightest, so that is not the case with me

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    Quote Originally Posted by FDibbins View Post
    I am not religious in the slightest, so that is not the case with me
    I've met almost no one in the forum community, regardless of discipline and/or area of focus, that believes anything religous whatsoever. especially Christianity. and I have accounts on 25 different technology internet forums.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

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    Which is fine. I hope that you can now mark this thread as solved.
    forgot that you are technical. can't forget the technicalities and process-oriented nature of tech folks! DONE.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    Adam - one thing about me that is no secret, as it's in my profile, is that I am not a techie: I am a teacher of modern foreign languages.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    Quote Originally Posted by AliGW View Post
    Adam - one thing about me that is no secret, as it's in my profile, is that I am not a techie: I am a teacher of modern foreign languages.
    no kidding!? cool. I love foreign languages, and I find it incredibly sad that some of them are being lost because this stupid country of mine injects its non-sense, capitalistic greed and pop culture into other countries when it has nothing else to sell in the USA.

    I know you won't tell me what you teach, per your words in that PM long ago. so I won't ask. That's interesting though. I have a high interest in teaching myself. I'm already teaching VBA to a girl in Slovenia.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    I have told you what I teach, so no need to ask - it's in my previous post. I'm retiring soon anyway.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    Well good for you I bet you're happy about that. I know a lot of people in the technology sector that want to retire immediately because it's gotten so nonsensical the days are pretty much pointless from 8:00 to 5:00 LOL. And I certainly don't blame them. I talked to a gentleman at a Hilton hotel here two months ago at the bar on the top floor and he told me that every programmer he manages in the corporate sector, he tells them to record every single thing that they do and every single hour that they work because corporate customers are so crazy and indecisive that managers inside companies change their minds constantly in a severe amount of work is wasted along with time. And thus he's looking over his employees and wants them to get paid for whatever they do even if the work is trashed and never used again 5 hours after they complete it.

    I also get a lot of people that tell me stuff like "" well I'm doing fine I've only got 10 years till retirement"".that obviously tells me that they don't generally like the work that they do in the people they deal with on a daily basis either period and of course no surprise there. :-)

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    I have always loved my job - teaching is a vocation, anyway. But I also value my free time, and so I am looking forward to the end of the year.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    obviously you don't spend your free time sending PMs back and forth to folks on this board. I believe you. and it's very rare that someone loves their job in this day in age. Most people that I talk to that say that are either lying, or they've learned to love it because they're scared to death to be automated out of it.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    you don't spend your free time sending PMs back and forth to folks on this board.
    I rarely send PMs except to other mods and admins, mostly about mod-related issues. But you know that anyway, don't you?

    I consider myself to have been very lucky in my career, partly because of what I do, which is extremely rewarding most of the time, and partly because I am part of probably the last generation of teachers that will be able to retire when they want to and not have to work until they are 70 or more. One of the things about teaching is that you have to stay up-to-date with teenage trends, and I do think that there comes a point at which there's too much of a gap in age between you and the pupils you are teaching: I didn't want to get to that stage. I shall retire still enjoying what I'm doing.

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    Re: if anyone takes offense....

    I think I understand exactly what you're saying about the Gap in age period and I talk about that all the time with people in my parish in the Catholic church. but it's not just our church it's every Church in the world all of the older people know that we've reached the point now in human progression where there's a mixing of knowledge between young and old people and it's causing a lot of problems but then again according to my own faith and not to bring religion into this at all but, that mixing of knowledge and the conflict between young and old people towards the end was actually predicted thousands of years ago. And it's in the book.

    But you are more positive subject, yes I do know that about you but I don't know everything :-)

    I'm glad you enjoyed teaching kids and I probably would enjoy teaching them as well but in america, and I don't know if it's different in the United kingdom or not, young kids are having a severe problem right now concentrating and focusing and even caring for that matter about the work that they're supposed to do to learn what they need to learn to do well in this life. but I think a lot of that has to do with American pop culture and this get-rich-quick nonsense mentality that this country has always operated on. But that's just my guess. unfortunately everybody in this country either worships corporate idols or government leaders and they shouldn't nor have they ever have started doing it long ago. But then again everybody calls America the land of opportunity which of course, when translated, means get rich in a capitalistic system because it's very easy to do so. :-(

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