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    Are we allowed to disagree with Moderators?

    My thought is that the Title "Dynamic Range" for a question on how to change from a static (hardcoded range) range to a dynamic range is right on.
    Certainly so if two posts previously there is a Title "Warranty Date" which is seemingly OK because it does not get the dreaded reprimand.
    The whole story, if you want to know is as follows:
    At 07:22 a request is posted.
    At 07:23 the reprimand is posted. (Talk about being swift)
    An edit to the original post is made 9 minutes after the reprimand (at 07:32)
    I saw the post at somewhere around 09:30 to the best of my recollection
    I noticed the reprimand, looked at things and in my mind the Title was OK and consequently thought that the edit had been made to the title and posted a suggestion at 10:17 hrs.
    Apparently wrong because I got a warning. Not that I care about a warning but it is getting silly if you ask me, certainly so if you explained what happened.
    I would be nice to hear someone else's take on this. Other moderators have to be political and have to agree to disagree, I am sure.

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    Re: Are we allowed to disagree with Moderators?

    You got an infraction ... which you will be able to gaze upon forever! Once upon a time, there was an option to hide them so that you didn't need to see them cluttering up your profile until the end of time. But not now.

    Anyway, to the question. Personally, I would have thought that "Dynamic Range" WAS/IS something that someone might Google for. "I want to create a "Dynamic Range" would surely find this thread. And I'm sure that your answer would have proved helpful.

    That said, generally speaking, no, you're not allowed to disagree with a Moderator. At least, not in public. Maybe discuss it via Private Messages. But, as far as I know, once an infraction has been given, it cannot be rescinded. Seems harsh unless you make a habit of it.
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    Re: Are we allowed to disagree with Moderators?

    Thanks Trevor for your opinion.
    I have asked this morning, one day later, and the answer was more or less that nothing had changed because the Title was not changed.
    You probably have enough "people knowledge" that at a certain point you know there is no use in continuing a discussion.
    Thanks again for your candid opinion.

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    Re: Are we allowed to disagree with Moderators?

    Don't go near that wall with your head, it will do you no good. And the wall probably won't notice. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt, got the headache.

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    Re: Are we allowed to disagree with Moderators?

    We'll chalk it up to "Democracy and freedom of speech."

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    Re: Are we allowed to disagree with Moderators?

    But, as far as I know, once an infraction has been given, it cannot be rescinded.
    In the past moderators could.
    I don't think the expertise of the current 'Technical' Team suffices to have changed that.



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    Re: Are we allowed to disagree with Moderators?

    In the past moderators could.
    Perhaps I was never able to argue my point effectively . I suspect it won't happen here, even if it could

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    Re: Are we allowed to disagree with Moderators?

    It won't be here.

    A title change was requested and that title change has not yet happened. Jolivanes posted to the thread several hours after the moderation note had been posted and the title had not been amended. It still hasn't been. Even forum experts have to abide by the rules.

    An edit to the original post is made 9 minutes after the reprimand (at 07:32)
    An edit was made to the post - however, you could see from the titles in the opening post and the moderation note that the title had not changed.

    'Dynamic Range' as a title is just as useless and generic as 'VLOOKUP' or 'Formula Help'.

    When the OP in that thread improves their thread title, it will be open to help.

    Of course you can disagree with a moderator (via PM, of course) - sometimes the moderator will agree with you and go back and rescind an infraction or whatever, and sometimes they won't.

    You won't hear about all the occasions when moderators do change things: you'll only ever hear about it when they don't.

    Thanks to all forum experts and gurus for the tremendous support you have shown here to the moderation team - it's so nice to know that we are appreciated.
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    Re: Are we allowed to disagree with Moderators?

    Re: "however, you could see from the titles in the opening post and the moderation note that the title had not changed"
    Be so kind and let me in on the secret how to see that if one sees the post well after the edit.

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    Re: Are we allowed to disagree with Moderators?

    Sure - so when I replied to the thread with the moderation note, the reply used the title that existed in the post to which I replied in my post (this is the way the forum works).

    Therefore, original post title:

    Dynamic Range

    My post title:

    Re. Dynamic Range

    Therefore you know by comparing these that the post edit that occurred AFTER I added my post had nothing to do with a title change. If it had, the two titles would have differed.

    Does this make sense?
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    Re: Are we allowed to disagree with Moderators?

    Now that I know that, yes it does. Do all people that frequent this site know that?
    I guess you could have explained that to me. After all, what do teachers do?
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    Re: Are we allowed to disagree with Moderators?

    They should do - they will have noticed the pattern when they reply to posts. That's how I know.

    In your case, the problem was more to do the assumption that the post edit had something to do with a title change. I would advise you to check with the moderator in question if in doubt.

    I guess you could have explained that to me. After all, what do teachers do?
    I have just explained it to you - did so as soon as you asked. Please don't start making personal jibes.

    I hope you can draw a line under this now.
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    Re: Are we allowed to disagree with Moderators?

    @jolivanes: I will point you back to post #4. You are getting remarkably close to that wall and it will do you no good

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    Re: Are we allowed to disagree with Moderators?

    Trevor - let's be very clear here. I have made a judgement and on this occasion it is not in favour of the complainant.

    As far as I am concerned, the matter is at an end, and will have no bearing on anything that happens in the future.

    I do not bear grudges - I do not understand why people contributing in this thread harbour so much animosity. I think it's very sad, to be honest.

    If you want to go on and on and on about it - if that makes you feel better - then fine. I have said what i am going to say on the matter, and here ONLY because Jolivanes started the thread.

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    Re: Are we allowed to disagree with Moderators?

    I think it's time this conversation was drawn to a close, before anyone loses their cool.

    Thread closed.
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