Originally Posted by
protonLeah
@JieJenn:
"...[I'm] Not trying to complain or anything, but recently I have been following and researching the competency and credibility of couple of Excel MVPs ..."
Reply:
1. What prompted you to "follow and research" these MVP's?
2. What standards are you using to evaluate "competency"? Who has authority to issue such standards?
3. CREDIBILITY?? I don't understand. What has belief got to do with Excel formulas and macros? They either work or they don't. It's not a matter of opinion. How do you read someone's answer to a question and say you don't believe it will work? Where are your examples JieJenn?
@JieJenn:
"... and to my surprise, their knowledge/expertise in MS Excel are no where near (?) [an] expert..."
Reply:
1. How do you judge someone else's knowledge base? Did they fail to correctly answer questions that were put to them directly?
2. What are the criteria for "expert"?
3. How/when did your knowledge of Excel become so complete, so perfect, so excellent that such a judgement of someone else's competency is warranted?
@JieJenn:
"... but they do [make] time and effort to answer people questions (when the question can be answered easily) ..."
Reply:
1. This forum is made up of volunteers who give their time freely, at their own convenience, for fun and recreation.
2. How do you know that these MVP's only answer the so-called easy questions?
3. What gives you the right to say that someone should/must answer a specific question?
* How dare you determine, on you own, that because someone did not answer a question, it is because he did not know the answer, hum?
There are members of the forum who are not what you would call experts, but when they see a question they say, "I know how to do that". So they answer the question and help someone to do his job.
Or maybe you think that only MVP's are allowed to answer questions, and then only those questions which require a PH.D in Physics + engineering + mathematics + brain surgery. Indeed!
What are the criteria for "easy questions"? I suspect that they are the one's to which you know the answer.
@JieJenn:
"... I always thought to becoming an MVP, one must be knowledge [sic - should be knowlegable] and expert in the application (Excel, Access, C++, SQL, etc)..."
Reply:
You seem to think that the forum is giving MVP certificates to members based on the number of posts one makes. Your "research" should have informed you that Microsoft has the right and authority to grant MVP Certifications for their products. (I have an MSCE and each test cost me $100 (I think there were six at the time)).
@JieJenn:
"... and at the same time make great[!] contributions to the community. ..."
Reply:
1. Define community.
2. There are, no doubt, several thousand Excel MVP's in the world. Most do their (paid) jobs and go home in the evenings and never log on to help forums to offer (free) help and advice to anyone. Not to mention those "GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS" what ever that might mean.
@JieJenn:
"... I have been work really hard trying to becoming an expert in MS Excel, but never I dream to become an MVP in the "tools" I use.
Reply:
1. >> I have been work really hard trying to becoming << shoud be: I have been working very hard to become...
2. >> but never I dream to become << should be: but, I have never dreamt of becoming...
3. >> in the "tools" I use << Huh??
@JieJenn:
"... Now I see people who became a MVP because they answer tons of easily questions but without having the level of expertise. ..."
Reply:
1. Presumption: This seems to be based on the notion that the forum is issuing certifications; and, that quantity is the sole qualification (geez). An error in logic and fact as explained previously.
2. >> tons << a bad metaphor in this case, though, unfortunately, expected.
3. >> easily questions << should be: easily answered questions. Again, what is the standard for an easy answer?
4. Should questions requiring only a simple or easy answer be ignored? Or maybe the answer should be diliberately convoluted and complicated in order to impress the questioner with the knowlege of the swelled head of the one who answers?
@JieJenn:
It is kinda discouraging and hard broken to be honest.
Reply:
>> kinda << bad english
>> hard broken << should be HEART BREAKING
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How sad that JieJenn seems to have such an exhaulted and exaggerated opinion of his/her own abilities that it leads him/her to question the motives and abilities of members who only want to help others for the sheer fun of it. It is painfully evident that he/she reads through the daily posts calling every question and answer offered simplistic and idiotic. And all because it is not the answer he/she would give or expect. Actually, I'm surprised that JieJenn doesn't post in order to correct all the incompetence and foolishness posted.
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