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    Live graphing comparing manually entered data with existing data

    I am trying to create an auto updating line graph that will compare data as it is manually entered with existing data. Specifically, I'm trying to compare a bicycle racer's average speed as he passes by 15 timing stations against pre-entered average speed targets. I'd like the graph to update automatically as times are entered at each timing station. I've attached the spreadsheet that I'm working with that will give you an idea of what I'm looking to do. The manual input would be the racer's time to complete each segment in the row, "TS elapsed time". Excel calculates the average speed over that segment and displays it in the row, "ACTUAL". I'd like that average speed to be graphed against the average speed targets that are already on the graph.

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    Re: Live graphing comparing manually entered data with existing data

    I'm not sure I understand what is going wrong. After clearing the formats that were hiding the values in rows 16, 14, and 4 so I could see those values. Here's what I see:

    1) Data entered into Row 16. What do these numbers represent? Time between destinations? Time from start? Time in what units?
    2) Row 4 then multiplies the entry in row 16 by 24, suggesting that row 16 is supposed to be entered as time in days. So, the current data suggest that it takes this individual 100 days to go between markers. Seems real slow for a biker, which is why the data for the "ACTUAL" data series is on the bottom of the chart.
    3) Row 14 then calculates speed (rate=distance/time) based on the hours computed in row 4 and the distance in row 3.

    I would suggest that, rather than a charting problem, something is not right in what you are entering in row 16, and how it is converting that entry to hours. I am not certain what your intention is, but it should be easy once you understand and/or explain what should be entered in row 16 and how that should be converted to elapsed hours in row 4.
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    Re: Live graphing comparing manually entered data with existing data

    The data in line 16 is only there to keep the "#DIV/0!" error from showing. You'll note that the data in line 16 is using "conditional format" to show white text on a white background when the time is that long, because yes, that is unbelievable slow. Once realistic times are entered as the race is underway the entered times would be visible.

    The chart that is in my example is not interactive, but a snapshot. I'd like it to update with current average speeds as they are entered.
    Time from time station to time station will be entered into line 16, excel will calculate the average speed in MPH and populate line 14.
    Line 4 is not visible (white text on white background) and is only used in interim calculations converting [h]:mm to decimal time.
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    Re: Live graphing comparing manually entered data with existing data

    So yes, elapsed time from time station to time station is entered into line 16 in [h]:mm format.
    Excel calculates average mph using the time entered into line 16 and the distance listed in line 3 then posts it to line 14 "ACTUAL".
    I'd like the graph to compare this "ACTUAL" average speed to the existing target averages listed in lines 6-13.

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    Re: Live graphing comparing manually entered data with existing data

    As the race progressed through time station 3, the Excel sheet might look like this.
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    Re: Live graphing comparing manually entered data with existing data

    What exactly is not working? It seems to update automatically (for me anyway) as data are entered in row 16. I guess I'm not sure I understand what more you want it to do, or what you want it to do differently.

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    Re: Live graphing comparing manually entered data with existing data

    The spreadsheet works exactly like I want it to work. I'd like to get the graph to automatically update as each new time station time is entered.

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    Re: Live graphing comparing manually entered data with existing data

    And the chart does not update for you as you add data to row 16? The chart updates just fine for me on my computer. Have you checked your automatic/manual calculation setting? Though, if that were set to manual, the spreadsheet formulas would not update either.

    Does Excel fail to update charts in all spreadsheets, or is it just this spreadsheet that won't update automatically? Anything else in your Excel environment that may be present?

    Or am I still not understanding what is going on.

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    Re: Live graphing comparing manually entered data with existing data

    I have never used charts before. (as you might be able to ascertain from my multiple questions. LOL) Are you sure that the chart you see is updating? I don't have anything set in it to update. The line that should display actual speed can be seen sitting hard against the bottom of the graph (robin egg blue). It should rise up to the to match data to the X axis scale. My spreadsheet works fine, it is the line graph that I'm trying to get to give live updates.
    Last edited by Desert Coyote; 05-15-2015 at 02:51 PM. Reason: additional info

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    Re: Live graphing comparing manually entered data with existing data

    You do not need to do anything special to a chart to instruct it to update. Charts should update automatically each time the spreadsheet calculates.

    What happens in the spreadsheet and the chart if you enter 3:00 into F16 of your most recent sample?

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    Re: Live graphing comparing manually entered data with existing data

    My apologies MrShorty. It IS updating! Now I just need to make the line that is updating more visible against the background. I was confused by all the help sites that I found with a Google search. It appeared that I had to insert long code strings to get this to work.

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