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    Tiered commission pay

    Hi!

    After taking a few weeks break, I've been trying for a several hours to build an Excel Spreadsheet for a Tiered Bonus System... but now, it needs to be done.

    I figured out how to do a "simple" Tiered Bonus System following the advice that I found on the web and or the forum here but where it gets complicated is the way I want to do my commission structure.

    (The following are fictitious salaries used for example purposes)

    I want to build an Excel Spreadsheet where the Tiered Bonus System is Variable with the Salary earned.
    So if the guy that earns a salary of $50,000 makes $100,000 in sales, I want him to get remunerated the same way as the guy who earns $100,000 in salary or the guy that decide not to take a salary.
    What happens when I do it on Excel, is YES, I'm able to get the same value for each Tier but when they add up, the value of "money" is not the same.

    In addition to this, I'm trying to plug-in a Quarterly Quota in the Spreadsheet... So if the Quota is met one Quarter, you get the salary but if 2 quarters later you're a quarter behind, you have to fulfill your previous number and the on-going one to get the commission... but that.. that's another story.

    Maybe I'm not clear or I'm trying to do something too complicated or I'm asking too much, I don't know but I have an headache now... I really need someones help. I know for someone, figuring this thing out is not as complicated as it is for me..

    Thank you.

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    Re: Tiered commission pay

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    Re: Tiered commission pay

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    Re: Tiered commission pay

    Thanks for the input.
    I'll post the spreadsheet shortly.

    Thank you for your help again!

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    Re: Tiered commission pay

    I attached the Excel Document here!
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    Re: Tiered commission pay

    I don't understand the concept. What exactly does this mean?

    So the person that makes a salary of $100,000 per year and just made $6,000,000 in sales end up making the same amount of money (after commission) as the person that makes a salary of $50,000 or the person that decided not to take a salary at all.

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    Re: Tiered commission pay

    So a person who has a salary of $50k, a sales value of $6m, and earned $13k of commission would have a final payout of $63k.
    You would like all your salespersons to earn the same amount in total after commission if they achieved the same sales value... So how much would a person with a $100k salary and a sales value of $6m get in total when compared against the first person's payout of $63k? Would they earn less than their salary, or would the first person's payout be inflated as if they were on $100k? What if a salesperson joined and had a salary of $300k, would everyone get a payrise?
    I don't get the logic, sorry.
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    Re: Tiered commission pay

    I agree stormin

    and as the original example was So if the guy that earns a salary of $50,000 makes $100,000 in sales, I want him to get remunerated the same way as the guy who earns $100,000 in salary or the guy that decide not to take a salary

    do we need to match for any given amount of sales?

    If that is the case the only way is to pay them all the same salary!

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    Re: Tiered commission pay

    That's precisely what I was getting at in post #6. It doesn't make sense as it stands.

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    Re: Tiered commission pay

    Hey, it's probably why I have a hard time doing it... It does not make sense. haha
    I'm confused myself.

    I'm trying to build financial security for the sales reps by offering them to take a Salary if they want. The higher the salary, the higher the quota they are required to meet.
    But, at the same time, I don't want to penalize anybody and I want everybody to have the same TOTAL PAYOUT at the end. No matter what their salary is.

    Really, like you see in the Excel Docs.. I want the guy who as a salary of 100k and sells $6m to have a total payout of: $113,350
    And I want the guy who earns a salary of 50k and sells $6m to have a total payout of: $113,350
    And the guy who does not take a salary.. or the guy who take 200k.. and sells $6m.. I want them both to get $113,350

    The $100,000 is the base salary I'm using just to "guide" myself.
    For the person who comes in with a salary of 300k, that person would need to meet a higher quota ($4.5m) to start getting any commission.


    Maybe I'm over complicating things right now.. The idea was brought to my attention and I thought I could work it by myself.
    If it's impossible, I'll go with a more straight forward Bonus Tier System.

    Hope I make more sense right now... if not... Just forgive me! haha!

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    Re: Tiered commission pay

    so a guy who does not sell enough will take a pay cut?

    It seems you just need to work out the value for the guy who is the 100k guy and then give this value to the other guys, adjusting for the wages that have already been paid

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    Re: Tiered commission pay

    True Davsth. A guy that does not perform enough should not get the same pay as the other guy.
    I could do it this way.. but I was trying to get everything automated. To show future employees and to show people I report to.

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    Re: Tiered commission pay

    Really, like you see in the Excel Docs.. I want the guy who as a salary of 100k and sells $6m to have a total payout of: $113,350
    And I want the guy who earns a salary of 50k and sells $6m to have a total payout of: $113,350
    And the guy who does not take a salary.. or the guy who take 200k.. and sells $6m.. I want them both to get $113,350
    That means their salary is just a draw against their commission, no?
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    Re: Tiered commission pay

    But if their base salary gets docked if they don't sell enough then it's not a salary - it's all commission. What's the advantages/disadvantages of taking a higher or lower salary?

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    Re: Tiered commission pay

    But if their base salary gets docked if they don't sell enough then it's not a salary - it's all commission. What's the advantages/disadvantages of taking a higher or lower salary?
    It's not uncommon: http://www.businessinsider.com/death...plained-2011-4

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    Re: Tiered commission pay

    I'm hit by a paywall so cannot read the article, but I have no reason to doubt you. I'm bowing out of this thread since I do not think my little knowledge of salespeoples salaries or commission etc. is enough to help. Sorry!

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