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    Problem in evaluation of formula with F9

    Hi, I create an array of the style =SEQUENCE(2000) or any equivalent version with ROW(INDIRECT()) etc.

    When I evaluate this with F9, I get as the last values: 1855;1856;䀄㕸Χ晔䀄

    Can anyone explain to me what is going on here? (Any formulas where I use this, work fine though. Similarly, when I extract its values, it doesn't yield the above symbols.)

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    Re: Problem in evaluation of formula with F9

    Hi,

    Either it's a new feature or a bug! I get the same, though I haven't managed to find any official documentation on this yet.

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    Re: Problem in evaluation of formula with F9

    At least it allows you to evaluate a formula up to a certain point. Didn't previous versions of Excel deny you that possibility for any formula exceeding 8192 characters?

    Not sure how useful it is to be able to see a subsection of the formula evaluation, though. This just adds to the argument for an improved Evaluate Formula window.

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    Re: Problem in evaluation of formula with F9

    I was thinking of Excel limitations first, too. I guess I was a bit lazy to look it up.
    At Item 1856 we're at around 6300 characters.
    https://support.office.com/en-us/art...7-269d656771c3
    Also mentiones the 8,192 max. length that you reference.

    The cutoff seems to be 1863 = at least 6345 characters + the semicolons, + maybe the {} gets us to the limit it seems.

    How the formula ends is a puzzle to me though.

    UNICODEs:
     4
    䀄 16388
    㕸 13688
    Χ 935
    晔 26196
     4
    䀄 16388

    If I change it to e.g.: =IF($AF$1#,111,) the last items are: 䀃㘮蜈䀃晔ʄ䀃
    which equate to unicode characters:

    䀃 16387
    㘮 13870
    蜈 34568
     3
    䀃 16387
    晔 26196
    ʄ 644
     3
    䀃 16387

    I personally use F9 to (part)evaluate formulas all the time.
    It's much faster than the Evaluate tool and more keyboard friendly; I recognize that F9 can yield wrong results in some instances where the Evaluate tool does not but these scenarios are so niche that they play virtually no role for me.

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    Re: Problem in evaluation of formula with F9

    I only ever seem to get two characters, i.e. 䀄, which appear to translate (from Chinese) as 'stupid' (!).

    That's only for numerical arrays, however. If I instead try e.g.

    =CHAR(64+ROW(1:3000)^0)

    the evaluation is simply cut off without any additional characters.

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    Re: Problem in evaluation of formula with F9

    As far as I can tell, these symbols are random, too, i.e. this is nothing meaningful in Chinese eiter.

    Can anyone with other/older versions of Excel check the same and let us know their outputs?

    E.g. the example fo XOR LX yields for me with F9 as the last results: ;"A垟

    While =ROW(INDIRECT(("1:2000"))) yields: ;1856;䀄㕸Χ晔䀄 for me.

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    Re: Problem in evaluation of formula with F9

    Quote Originally Posted by XOR LX View Post
    Hi,

    Either it's a new feature or a bug! I get the same, though I haven't managed to find any official documentation on this yet.

    Regards
    I just checked with Excel 2016 and there such F9 evaluation is not possible. It gives a straight error message "You can't use more than 8192 characters in an Microsoft Excel formula.".

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    Re: Problem in evaluation of formula with F9

    Quote Originally Posted by RaulSerg View Post
    I just checked with Excel 2016 and there such F9 evaluation is not possible. It gives a straight error message "You can't use more than 8192 characters in an Microsoft Excel formula."
    Yes, that's what I thought:

    Quote Originally Posted by XOR LX View Post
    At least it allows you to evaluate a formula up to a certain point. Didn't previous versions of Excel deny you that possibility for any formula exceeding 8192 characters?
    Perhaps there will be some cases for which being able to see a subsection of the evaluation is useful. Still, definitely looks buggy.

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