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    Hi.

    I hope this is the right place to ask. I am trying to break down how I get paid. I have my income which is ?1,828.10 every 4 weeks, but this is subject to change every 4 weeks, but for this calculation, I am working on ?1,828.10. My pension is 5% which would work out as a ?91.41 deduction, my N.I is 0% up to ?968, then 13.25% from ?968 which calculates as a ?113.96 deduction. The issue I am having is TAX. I understand that tax is 20%, but I need to calculate my TAXABLE PAY and then the actual TAX and I can't for the life of me figure this out, My personal allowance is ?12,630 a year.

    On a side note, using calculators online, I believe my taxable pay is ?765.16 which would be ?153.03 tax, but I don't know how this is calculated and broken down. This is the actual issue I am facing.

    If anyone can assist me and explain the calculation, that would be great.

    Thank you in advance, please ask for any clarification.
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    Re: PAYE Tax

    You are aware that this forum is a public place - anyone can view your details, so if anything here in the post or in the file is NOT for public consumption, then please desensitise it.

    Your NI calculation: =(B3-968)*0.1325
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    Hi.

    Thank you for your reply. All data shared is okay to share. Thank you. Thank you for the N.I formula, but my question was relating to tax if you're able to check again and assist?

    Many thanks.
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    Re: PAYE Tax

    Try this:

    =(B3-12630/12)*0.2

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    Re: PAYE Tax

    Long time since I've done this but, if it is 4 weekly, divide your annual tax allowance by 13 and subtract that from the 4 weekly pay and subtract your pension.
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    Re: PAYE Tax

    Please see the attached updated workbook.

    National Insurance contributions
    The rates of National Insurance contributions (NICs) for both employees and employers are increased by 1.25 percentage points for 2022/23. For employees, the rate of NICs is set at 13.25% on all earnings between the primary threshold and the upper earnings limit, and at 3.25% on earnings above the upper earnings limit. For employers, the rate of NICs is set at 15.05% on earnings above the secondary threshold.

    The primary threshold is set initially at ?190 per week, rising to ?242 per week from 6 July 2022. The secondary threshold is set at ?175 per week for the whole of the 2022/23 tax year. The upper earnings limit is set at ?967 per week for 2022/23, so that it remains aligned with the income tax higher rate threshold.
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    Re: PAYE Tax

    Is this resolved now? If not, how else may we help you?

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    Re: PAYE Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by TMS View Post
    Long time since I've done this but, if it is 4 weekly, divide your annual tax allowance by 13 and subtract that from the 4 weekly pay and subtract your pension.
    I believe that you've hit the nail on the head. I worked out what you said and used this formula: =SUM(B3-(12630/13)-B4) and this gave me the taxable pay which is on the online calculators which is what I needed.

    Is my formula a clean way of using it, or can it be simplified?

    Thanks so much, truly appreciate your knowledge and help.

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    Re: PAYE Tax

    Thanks for your in-depth calculations on the worksheet. It's been a great help.

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    Re: PAYE Tax

    You're welcome.

    You don't need SUM bracketing the calculations.

    Note: I changed cell A1 to just contain the allowance value of ?12,630 and used a Custom Format to add the text. That meant I could use
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    Re: PAYE Tax

    I spent 26 years as a tax inspector (4 of which were spent testing Payroll software), if you need a calculation to the exact penny (including rounding rules) then let me know and I'll post what I have.
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    Question Re: PAYE Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by pjwhitfield View Post
    I spent 26 years as a tax inspector (4 of which were spent testing Payroll software), if you need a calculation to the exact penny (including rounding rules) then let me know and I'll post what I have.
    Hi PJWHITFIELD.

    It'll be great for you to have a look and help me. I've made changes since my original upload and tried my best to get everything working, but still having a few issues.

    I am trying to break down my payslip so I can manually calculate how much I will get paid from work every 4 weeks. I work shifts so my income isn't fixed. The calculation below is based on ?1,828.10 this payday, but in 4 weeks times, this amount will be ?1,276.04. The formula will need to calculate what I earn based on Hours Worked x Hourly Rate and then the relevant Pension, Tax and N.I deductions to give actual pay every 4 weeks.

    Please download attached for latest edits: Tax Calculations (Latest).xlsx

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    Re: PAYE Tax

    hi you say you work shifts does that mean you get a shift allowance
    or does your hourly rate stay the same ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toonies View Post
    hi you say you work shifts does that mean you get a shift allowance
    or does your hourly rate stay the same ?
    Hi.

    I'm hourly paid regardless so ?10.10 p/h

    Thanks.

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    Re: PAYE Tax

    ...still having a few issues...
    I am not sure which calculations are causing issues?
    That said, I have modified the formulas in column D so that they round to 2 decimal places which has brought the value in cell D17 closer to what is manually placed in cell B17.
    Let us know if you have any questions.
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    Apologies i hadnt seen your previous message, when i get to my machine i'll take a look

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    Re: PAYE Tax

    So there are a couple of things slightly out,

    1. Freepay should be calculated as tax code with a 9 on the end, ie in this case 12639 (generally you will read that its a zero, its not it should be 9 (see point 4 below)

    2. You then take that and divide it by the number of periods (in this case 13 for 4 weekly), giving 972.24, if its not an exact penny then round UP

    3. Taxable pay is then your gross - freepay, so 1828.10 - 972.24 = 855.86 minus Pension contributions (note also that on Auto Enrolement you don't pay 5% of ALL earnings, its that over the LEL, so I get that to be 66.81), which gives 789.05

    4. For the tax calculation however you only use the whole pounds so roundown to zero decimals = 789



    5. As 789 is below the monthly threshold for higher rate (37,700 / 12 = 3141.66) this is all at 20% therefore 789 * 20% = 157.80 (round DOWN to 2 decimals)


    ps why do you have a 1263L tax code? standard one is 1257L


    Your NI is correct though
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    Re: PAYE Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by pjwhitfield View Post
    So there are a couple of things slightly out,

    1. Freepay should be calculated as tax code with a 9 on the end, ie in this case 12639 (generally you will read that its a zero, its not it should be 9 (see point 4 below)

    2. You then take that and divide it by the number of periods (in this case 13 for 4 weekly), giving 972.24, if its not an exact penny then round UP

    3. Taxable pay is then your gross - freepay, so 1828.10 - 972.24 = 855.86 minus Pension contributions (note also that on Auto Enrolement you don't pay 5% of ALL earnings, its that over the LEL, so I get that to be 66.81), which gives 789.05

    4. For the tax calculation however you only use the whole pounds so roundown to zero decimals = 789



    5. As 789 is below the monthly threshold for higher rate (37,700 / 12 = 3141.66) this is all at 20% therefore 789 * 20% = 157.80 (round DOWN to 2 decimals)


    ps why do you have a 1263L tax code? standard one is 1257L


    Your NI is correct though
    Hi. I have had a look over what you've said and made a few changes, but I can't get my head around it all. Would you be able to put in the formulas for me and re-upload so I can visualize what you're saying?

    Here is my latest changes: Tax Calculations (Working).xlsx

    I am on 1263L tax code because I have flat rate job expenses (uniform) which enables me a higher tax code from the default.

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    Re: PAYE Tax

    Please see attached.

    One bit that I'm not certain of is the NI, from my own calculator I developed many years ago I get the same (roughly) as the Reference calculator you've used, the difference is based on there being one more pound in the calculation rather than the straight forward Pay - Primary Threshold calc, why however is the question....(I know its right but can't quite explain why if that makes sense?)
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