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    excel default format to negative currency

    I'd like to know if there is a way to default formatted currency cells to negative numbers. So that, if you look at the example below, all columns from B to G will be automatically negative since they are representing my expenses.

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    Re: excel default format to negative currency

    You can FORMAT the number to APPEAR negative but the number will be positive. Is that what you are looking for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeTRON View Post
    You can FORMAT the number to APPEAR negative but the number will be positive. Is that what you are looking for?
    I want the value to be nagative as well.
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    Re: excel default format to negative currency

    You have to enter a negative number for that.

    If I saw what you were working with I could likely help you convert them all very quickly IF you had to do that. Or I could show you how to FORCE only negative numbers in certain columns... but I dont know what you are doing so I can't offer much help.

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    Re: excel default format to negative currency

    Formatting cannot change the underlying value, so there is no way for formatting to make a positive value be negative.

    The only way to change a value is to edit the value or change the formula in that cell.

    However, as far as I know (not an accountant or financials person), a red number in parentheses is pretty standard notation/format in accounting circles for "this is a negative number". In your screenshot, all of the numbers in B to G are red numbers in parentheses, so I would expect to read those numbers as negative numbers. As a scientist, the first thing I would probably do is to set the number format to "general" or fixed to 2 decimal places or something that shows positive and negative numbers the way I am used to seeing them, and see if the underlying values in those cells are already negative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrShorty View Post
    Formatting cannot change the underlying value, so there is no way for formatting to make a positive value be negative.

    The only way to change a value is to edit the value or change the formula in that cell.

    However, as far as I know (not an accountant or financials person), a red number in parentheses is pretty standard notation/format in accounting circles for "this is a negative number". In your screenshot, all of the numbers in B to G are red numbers in parentheses, so I would expect to read those numbers as negative numbers. As a scientist, the first thing I would probably do is to set the number format to "general" or fixed to 2 decimal places or something that shows positive and negative numbers the way I am used to seeing them, and see if the underlying values in those cells are already negative.
    Let me try to explain better. The B to G columns are data I entered manually. I had to add negative "-" simbol in front of each number. It is starting to become a major inconvenient since I had to enter a lot of numbers some of them are copy and paste. I want to save the time it take to type "-". So I'm looking for a way to make all these cells negative by default. Can it be done?
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    Re: excel default format to negative currency

    So you can enter the positive number, then copy and paste VALUES of a negative 1 over all of the cells and they ALL convert to negative in one swoop.


    Instructions
    1. Add -1 to a cell and copy to the clipboard
    2. Select the positive numbers you want to convert to negative
    3. Use Paste Special > Values + Multiply

    https://www.extendoffice.com/documen...of-values.html


    Learning this trick will alleviate your issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeTRON View Post
    You have to enter a negative number for that.

    If I saw what you were working with I could likely help you convert them all very quickly IF you had to do that. Or I could show you how to FORCE only negative numbers in certain columns... but I dont know what you are doing so I can't offer much help.
    Please read my comment to MrShorty you'll understand better

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    Re: excel default format to negative currency

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveBA View Post
    Please read my comment to MrShorty you'll understand better
    I did read it, before I commented. I am saying if they are copied and pasted in as negatives you can convert them with a few very quick button clicks.

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    Re: excel default format to negative currency

    I see three possible approaches to this:

    1) A VBA change event procedure that detects edits in those cells, and changes the sign of the entry.
    2) A "paste special" kind of operation like mikeTRON describes.
    3) Using helper cells where I enter the positive values in B2:G8 then have a block of cells (B12:G18, maybe) with a formula like =-B2 (copied across the range).

    If this is something I would do infrequently, I would probably go with (2). If this was something I did frequently, use (3). Under special circumstances (because I am not very excited about coding event code), resort to (1).

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    Re: excel default format to negative currency

    Number 2 looks like the right solution but I was hopping for something a little bit more elegant.the problem with this solution is that it will make my sheet very messy with a lot of extra numbers.

    Thanks for the help anyway

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    Re: excel default format to negative currency

    It should not make much of a mess on your sheet. You should only need a single cell with a -1 in that cell. Other than that one cell, it should not add anything to your spreadsheet.

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