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    Question Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    Hi guys,

    Im running Windows 7 machine with 4Gb of RAM, Pentium CPU and regular Western Digital HDD (blue series).


    Im doing a lot calculations in Excel (Office 2010 version) and some of the files which are filled with all kinds of formulas and even DB queries are quite heavy and have more then 200 Mbs.

    Due to some sotware limitations Im stuck with 32-bit OS and cant move to x64 platform so getting more RAM in order to get better performance is off the table.

    From my perspective I can do 3 things:

    1. Upgrade CPU
    2. Upgrade HDD to SDD
    3. Both above.

    Since I use socket 1150 LGA, i5 and i7 are quite expensive and my budget is limited.
    I can buy some good i5 or i7 processor or I can buy some SDD

    My question to you guys is, should I go with CPU upgrade or SSD upgrade since I cant afford both?

    I might be able to pull up with some 120 Gb SSD + some lower i3 CPU model as alternative to above.

    Which combination you think will bring more performance on to my excel calculations?

    Thank you in advance.
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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    W10, 16GB ram, SSD

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    RAM is fairly cheep and will give an improvement in speed, then maybe upgrade the HDD
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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    To extend your memory above the 32Bit address space you could try:
    https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...96(VS.85).aspx

    But in the long run you might need to switch to a 64Bit OS.

    Because memory is the way to go.

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    Hi,

    For purely Excel performance, I would upgrade the CPU over the SSD. Unless you are getting error messages about running out of memory, I am not convinced that adding RAM will help, certainly not if you can't upgrade to both 64bit OS and 64bit Office.
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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    Thank you all for suggestion.

    more RAM is not an option because as I said, I need to run W7 32-bit due to some technical limitations.

    so basically we can make this dillema more simple: CPU or SSD upgrade?

    P.S. Im not getting any out of memory errors nor RAM is used at its highest while running these excel calculations so I guess RAM is not the bottleneck here...
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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    200 Mbs is a reason to use MS SQL Server.

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    That is some valuable info but we dont have capacity for MS SQL Server...


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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    4Gb of RAM is enough.

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    Yes, thats something I cant increase anyway...

    I dont know should I go with better CPU or SSD

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    A right software application will be better.
    Last edited by 5631; 06-15-2017 at 05:12 PM.

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    Would you please explain?

    What do you mean by right sotware application?

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    I mean DBMS (data base management system). Excel is not specific for tasks of processing 200 Mbs data. You can chose Ms Access or MS SQL Server. 4Gb of RAM is enough for this.

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    Alternative software is not always an option (company restrictions, learning, costs, time etc)

    What kind of formulas are you using in your file? Maybe they can be streamlined?
    (and sorry, I forgot the 4 gig limit with 32 bit)

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    There are free versions (SQL Express, Access run-time).

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    Cost, as I mentioned above, might not be the only consideration. Learning a new program can take time that might not be available. Also, some companies are strict on what software they will allow to be used

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    Yes, it is so. But the topic starter can chose more options.

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    We use all kinds of formulas... INDEX is used a lot but I guess VLOOKUP is the most used formula in these files.

    Its a file with our product list containing more then 10 products, their names, SKU and all kind of data and then we perform updates of certain info
    from the DB of our business software, then we compare certain prices from certain suppliers etc... its quite complex file with lot of tabs doing different calculations...

    Here is a screenshot of the file just for the reference and informational purpose: http://prntscr.com/flw3xh

    Also this is how one of many formulas look like: https://prnt.sc/flw4fb
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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    Thank you all for joining this discusion.

    I would like to add that my company is a small one and in our HQ we use regular windows 7 machine to act as a server and by server I mean
    just another PC in the LAN on which we store data and other PCs that uses those resources are usually regular office machine with lower end hardware.

    True this "server" is running SSD and I7 CPU, but its also limited to 32-bit OS and 4 Gbs of RAM.

    That is an obsticle that cant be avoided at least for now.

    Somebody here suggested SQL Server 2016 but I dont know anything about it.
    Also I dont know if it can run under windows 7 pro or it needs to be installed on Windows server platform. All this asks for resources (mostly time) in order
    to be implemented which I currently dont have...

    We are currently nearing capacity and I might need real server in my company quite soon, but current setup does finish the job.

    So Im looking for a "quick fix" at least temporary in order to speed daily tasks for my employees.

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    Did you try to remove unused rows and columns, eliminate excessive formatting?
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...es-less-memory

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    I didnt but I dont experience memory problems at all.

    We just need more performance and I highly doubt its related to memory... Shouldnt we get that out of memory msg if memory is problem?

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    I would like to update this topic with some numbers... maybe I will get some extended help based on these new info.

    Our has around a milion formulas althogh its size is not what I mentioned before but more around 20 Mbs

    Does this put some lights on what should we persue to gain some computing power?

    Thank you

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    You guys with massive workbooks, using lots of indexes / lookups would get the biggest "bang for buck" by upgrading to Excel 2010 or later, and using Power Query / Power Pivot.
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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    I don't have enough hardware knowledge to comment. Just looking at the screen shots three things come to mind.

    In the spirit of what Ford mentions ...
    What kind of formulas are you using in your file? Maybe they can be streamlined?
    1. Can you sort the list(s)? (Approximate MATCH/VLOOKUP vs exact matches)
    2. Is there room for helper column(s).
    3. There might be more efficient alternatives to concatenating lookup values.

    I would look at those things before committing limited cash. If none of those things improve performance enough ... back to square one.
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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Olly View Post
    You guys with massive workbooks, using lots of indexes / lookups would get the biggest "bang for buck" by upgrading to Excel 2010 or later, and using Power Query / Power Pivot.
    Hi Olly

    We are using Excel 2010 I just havent made the update to my account here. I will do it now

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5631 View Post
    Did you try to remove unused rows and columns, eliminate excessive formatting?
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...es-less-memory
    Hi,

    Thank you for the suggeston.

    Im not original creator of this file and I highly doubt its going to be easy to optimize it since its quite complex and chance of messing it up during this optimization is quite high.

    I will certanly pass this link to original creator of the file so he can go through it and maybe implement some suggestions.

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    Re: Hardware upgrade to gain more Excel computing power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dolke View Post
    Hi Olly

    We are using Excel 2010 I just havent made the update to my account here. I will do it now
    Read everything I posted - the main benefit will come from using Power Query / Power Pivot, which is a very different way of working. Well worth the investment of time in learning how to change, though!

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