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    Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Hi, I am a bit of a newbee to excel though i have dabbled with it for a few years in small calculations.

    I have set up a sales sheet for eBay sales and it works rather well
    however i would like to improve it and my skills in excel.
    I have looked everywhere and i cant find an example of what i am trying to achive.

    Basically to keep it simple i have three different items that have different weights
    and three different packaging also with weights

    Item:
    Item1 = 35g
    Item2 = 24g
    Item3 = 51g

    The first part is: How do i associate the weight to the Item and add the packaging weight?
    If the item weight is under 100g then it selects C0; If the Item is over 100g then it selects E2

    Packaging:
    A000 = 8g
    C0 = 11g
    E2 = 21g

    The second part is how to i add the weight to the Packaging Item ?
    And then output the total cost.

    My biggest issue is to associate each name with a number.

    So for example: Item1=35, If Item1 is less than 100 then add the value of E2 else the value of C0 and add the postage for item under or over 100g

    Thanks for checking out my post.
    I would be really grateful for any help or guidence in the right direction.
    Somehow i think i maybe over thinking and the solution is simple.
    Many Thanks Carl

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Could you attach a sample workbook with a few manually produced outcomes so we can fully understand the requirement here?

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Don't worry there's quite a bit to it.

    A few different ways you could do it. Your first research topic is named ranges. You could assign a named range to any associated values. Or you could store values in a table; your second research topic is structured references (like named ranges but referring to table references).

    Your third research topic - nested if statements https://exceljet.net/formula/nested-if-function-example. This guy writes great articles, but here nested statements can also be nested in the if false parameter. Giving much more flexibility (and easier coding) as they can be tricky to get your head around them.

    So don't beat yourself up. What you're trying to do is a a little tricky. I've been working on a very complex spreadsheet with conditional logic (if statements and the like) for around 6 months now. It's not really a spreadsheet, it's more like software and it wouldn't take much to hard-code them into software really; python or whatever. But it's tricky to get your head around the logic gates & ensure you have all parameters covered in non-linear application (logic gates from different angles). What can help is to sketch the idea out on a flow chart, I couldn't have done 3/4 of my logical gates without this.
    If it's been helpful please mark as helpful

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Carl - as requested in post #2, please attach a workbook and one of us will give you some suggestions based on your data.
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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    I have created a New Workbook from scratch and i tried to add it as an attachment but the attachment link doesn't work.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Unfortunately the attachment icon doesn't work at the moment (it hasn't worked for years, and despite our repeatedly asking the technical team who own the forum to fix it, they can't be bothered to do so), so to attach an Excel file you have to do the following: just before posting, scroll down to Go Advanced and then scroll down to Manage Attachments. Now follow the instructions at the top of that screen.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Lol i figured that bit out and uploaded the attachment but then i am stuck.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    What do you mean? As you can see if you glance at other threads, many people attach workbooks successfully. In what way are you stuck?

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Second try with attachment hopefully.
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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Yeahj That worked :-)

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    I am usually the type that tries things over and over to figure things out and not one to learn by documents.
    Eventually i work it out. This one got my head spinning as i am relatively new and haven't used forums much.
    I was very well known on the BBS scene in the 80's before the internet lol.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    I don't quite understand, I'm afraid. Can you add some expected outcomes to your workbook, manually calculated, and explain the logic of these outcomes? Where are the results supposed to appear?

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Thank you for your reply. I have tried to simplify it so i can explain better.
    Please find attached the new Work Sheet.
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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    This all seems to be in an odd order, but here's the first bit for a starter in I2:

    =IF(A2="","",VLOOKUP(B2,$Q$17:$R$33,2,0)*A2&"g")

    Can you confirm which columns will be entered manually and which should be calculated in the main table.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Thanks for the formular.
    Lol sorry thats the way my head works and its a bit upside down.
    I don't mind if you change the order.

    In the Main Table Columns A, B, C and M (Item Cost) are entered manually.


    Edited
    Regarding the I2 Formular I tried to work it out and Wow i tottaly get it.
    I can use that Formular a lot.
    Last edited by carl97; 08-12-2019 at 09:58 AM.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    OK - thanks. I'll have another look.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    How is Excel meant to determine the weight of the package?

    Excel 2016 (Windows) 32 bit
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    =D2*0.15
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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    No D2:F2 where just a crued way of working out how many items and deducting 15% fees out of the total.

    D2 was to displace and calculate the price times the number in A2
    E2 was to display how much the fee was from D2
    F2 was to display the total money left after the fees in E2 where deducted and display the total in F2
    The Formular you helped me with before determins the weight and works really well

    =IF(A2="","",VLOOKUP(B2,$Q$17:$R$33,2,0)*A2&"g")
    I only got stuck on one thing though. At the bottom of the column I when i add up totals.
    for example when i do =I2+I3+I4 or use the =SUM(J2:J4) etc. to include the "g" in the total.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Can you share you latest workbook?

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Thank you ever so much for all the help.
    I feel that i am asking too many questions and for too much help.
    The Worksheets are just examples of what i am trying to do and i will rework out the one i will eventually create but hopefully with a bit more style and less muddled.
    I have attached the latest Worksheet sample 3 where i have added in the formulars that i assume are ok ish.

    I am doing a few online courses but most of them are very basic.
    Thanks again for all the help.
    I have attached the latest one.
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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    We are here to help!

    This makes things a bit clearer, thanks. I may not be able to look at this until this evening, but someone else may step in before then.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    =IF(A2="","",VLOOKUP(B2,$Q$17:$R$33,2,0)*A2&"g")
    I only got stuck on one thing though. At the bottom of the column I when i add up totals.
    for example when i do =I2+I3+I4 or use the =SUM(J2:J4) etc. to include the "g" in the total.
    If you are not aware of it when you concatenate it returns a text variable type. Its numeric value will always be 0. Math operations applied to those will always return an error.

    You can however apply a formatting "mask" to the numbers and thereby retain the desired numeric values.
    1. Select I2:I19.
    2. On the ribbon click Home. Then in the 'Number' group click the diagonal arrow in the lower right corner.
    3. Select 'Custom' from the Category.
    4. In the 'Type' box type in General "g"
    5. Click OK.


    The numbers will display in-cell with the "g" appended, but in the formula bar you will see just the formula (or just a number).
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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Hi Dave, Thanks for replying to my quest :-)
    I have tried what you have suggested from I2:I19 and I2 and I19 but it apears locked and i cant change anything in there.

    When i do this with I2:I19 it shows 54g in the sample box but it cant be edited.
    Last edited by carl97; 08-15-2019 at 03:56 PM.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Try modifying the formula in cell I2 so that it reads: =IF(A2="","",VLOOKUP(B2,$Q$17:$R$33,2,0)*A2)
    Copy the formula down to cell I18
    Now follow the steps listed in Dave's post. (Result should be that cell I19 displays 1452g)
    Let us know if you have any questions.
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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Thanks but when i do that then all of the cells become blank.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Here is the file with the formula and format changes applied.
    Let us know if you have any questions.
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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Thank you, I will download it and compare where i am going wrong.

    Edited...

    I was making the mistake by not adding 0"g"
    I was just adding g to the Numbers / Custom options and nothing else.
    Thanks again.

    Please could you help me with the postage formulat on J2:J18
    Basically i believe it is a if less than formular ?
    I think that i can figure out the rest with the previous help.
    Last edited by carl97; 08-22-2019 at 07:54 AM.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Two things are needed.
    1. Change the text values in AA28:AA33 to numbers (custom format 0"g")
    2. Populate J2:J18 using: =INDEX(AC$28:AC$33,MATCH(K2,AA$28:AA$33))
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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Thanks, that worked great.
    Hope i am not being cheeky to ask one more question.

    How would i calculate the variable in V26:Y26 to add to G2:G18 ?

    In that table V28:Y33 are the amount of units refering to the Items in T28:T33 that then should be added in G2:G18 as the variable. A2:A18

    F2 and F3 that i am refering to are Text not Columns or rows.
    example 1: If the Item is CAME (T28) and the number of units according to A2:A18 (Say 6) where ordered then the envelope would have to be an "F3" (Size) "F3" text would be added to the column G and add Y27 to H2:H18
    example 2: If the Item is BENINCA (T32) and the number of units according to A2:A18 (Say 10) where ordered then the envelope would have to be an "E2" (Size) "E2" text would be added to the Column G and add X27 to H2:18

    In examples above 1st: Column G= F3 and H= 26g
    ........................ 2nd: Golumn G= F2 and H= 21g

    I am sure that it is simpler to explain and there are easier ways.
    He he i like to learn the hard way. Thanks again for everybodys help.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    This proposal employs two helper columns (P:Q) which may be moved and/or hidden for aesthetic purposes.
    Column P displays the row number using: =MATCH(IFERROR(LEFT(B2,SEARCH(" ",B2)-1),B2),U$28:U$33,0)
    Column Q displays the column number using: =AGGREGATE(15,6,(COLUMN(W$28:Z$28)-COLUMN(V$28))/(INDEX(W$28:Z$33,P2,0)>=A2),1)
    The envelope size column is populated using: =INDEX(W$26:Z$26,Q2)
    The envelope weight column is populated using: =INDEX(W$27:Z$27,Q2)
    Let us know if you have any questions.
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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Thanks so much for your assistance.
    He he more complicated than i thought.
    I tried to apply the formula but i couldn't seam to get it to work.
    Please could you show me an example with my uploaded XLSX file

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    The .xlsx file is attached to post #30.
    I did neglect to mention that I changed the envelope weights (row 27) from text to numbers custom formatted 0"g"
    Let us know if you have any questions.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Thank you very much for your help.
    I am still trying to get my head round how the ES ROW and ES COLUMN works
    but that is great.
    Thanks again.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Thank you, you have been absolutely Great.
    As i didn't really understand the ES ROW and ES COLUMN
    I ended up with a further issue.
    I worked out that if i enter the unit number over the Table envelope number then i get an error on Colums H, P, R
    Also Column H doesnt relate to the Postage Table according to Weight in Column Q if ES ROW and ES COLUMN

    I have made some examples on the sample Workbook.
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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    It seems to me that if 7 Came C's are to be shipped only 6 will fit in an F3 envelope and 1 will need to be shipped in an A000 envelope unless there are larger sizes of envelopes not included in the envelope size table.
    Assuming the former to be the case the #NUM error (i.e. number of items is too large) seems appropriate and two lines will be needed to compute the postage on this order.
    Notice that in the attached copy of the file that C6 now shows 6 and C7 displays 1.
    (Row 7 was produced by selecting A7:V7, Pressing the Ctrl, Shift and = keys and selecting OK. Once a new row is inserted press the Ctrl and d keys then change C6 to 6 and C7 to 1)
    Similar treatments of rows 12 and 16 should clear all of the #NUM errors including those in column H.
    Let us know if you have any questions.
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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    From the experience here i have also answered a different question:
    To calculate other sheets in the Workbook to add up totals. I also managed to calculate formulars from different workbooks
    Last edited by carl97; 08-23-2019 at 04:22 PM.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    I am not sure what happened, my reply seamed to go missing once i sent it. I will try to re assimulate it.
    Thanks for the Example, that really helped. I am not so good at figuring it out from your explaination my it also now makes sense.

    What i did was add another Column AE and labled it "Parcel" Any size over F3 is a Small Parcel. That all worked perfect. I can keep adding. I figured that 6 x F3 is a Small Parcel etx si i could just add 2 x Parcel, 3 x Parcel etc
    It cant be a F3 and a A000 as the item will need to go to the same customer so it would have to become a Parcel. How would i change the Postage value to £4.55 in column H as soon as it goes beyond number of units to fit F3 size ?

    I have learned a lot from these examples and can impliment them in a lot of what i need to do. It has been great.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    How would i change the Postage value to £4.55 in column H as soon as it goes beyond number of units to fit F3 size ?
    Try pasting the following into cell H3 and copy down: =IFERROR(INDEX(AA$15:AA$20,MATCH(Q3,Y$15:Y$20)),4.55)
    Let us know if you have any questions.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Thanks but that didn't work. All it did was change all the data to £4.55 no matter what the results are.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Ha Ha i think you where just testing me. It worked perfect but your formular was incorrect. I believe it should have been:
    =IFERROR(INDEX(AA$13:AA$18,MATCH(Q3,Y$13:Y$18)),4.55) (only the column numbers though)

    I do learn very fast, but you guys have saved me so much time. The boring basic stuff makes me fall asleep lol.
    Thank you all again guys.. I will hope to become a Guru soon hehe

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    This is a bit of a Bonus question per say. It is sort of related.. I will ask in a different Thread later.
    Day that i wanted to use a handheld barcode Scanner and have barcodes on each item (1x 2x 3x 4 x etc and item..) ie 3x Item and send it straight to my Workbook and then the rest will auto fill.
    I can already send one at a time barcode and would be next to the computer to monitor for errors but would it be possible from a barcode to generate a full row ?

    In my case for examble Unit Number + Item Name (there would only be two manual inputs coming from the Barcode reader and the rest would be in the Workbook, updatable)
    This would be an interesting topic i think.
    Thanks again for all that helped me. I have learned a lot.
    Carl

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    Sorry, Carl - you may not ask this here. You must start a new thread for this as it is completely different and requires its own suitable thread title.

    This thread should be marked as solved, please. Select Thread Tools from the menu link above and mark this thread as SOLVED.

    Note to all participants: no answers to this new query here, please.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

    I cant seam to find the option to make the enquiry as solved.

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    Re: Associating items with numbers to calculate postal cost according to weight

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