Sort a Subtotalled List?

Hello,
Does anyone know if you can sort a list after it has been subtotalled?
The reason I ask is because I am basically sorting a list based on a criteria
and then deleted all transactions that offset to each other to equal zero. So
if I could sort the list after it was subtotalled all the subtotalled amounts
that equaled zero would be in order and I could delete them all at once,
instead of scanning through the list. Any help would save me a huge amount of
time.

Thanks,

Would it be better to remove the subtotals (Data/Subtotals/Remove All) then
sort/delete data, then re-apply the subototals?



"Rich" wrote:

> Hello,
> Does anyone know if you can sort a list after it has been subtotalled?
> The reason I ask is because I am basically sorting a list based on a criteria
> and then deleted all transactions that offset to each other to equal zero. So
> if I could sort the list after it was subtotalled all the subtotalled amounts
> that equaled zero would be in order and I could delete them all at once,
> instead of scanning through the list. Any help would save me a huge amount of
> time.
>
> Thanks,
>

That would not work. The reason why is because I am trying to match numbers
that will equal zero, then delete them once I have matched them. So what I
have been doing is sorting them, subtotalling them, and deleting all of them
that equal zero. But I would like to somehow get all of the transactions that
offset to zero together so I could delete them all at once.

"JMB" wrote:

> Would it be better to remove the subtotals (Data/Subtotals/Remove All) then
> sort/delete data, then re-apply the subototals?
>
>
>
> "Rich" wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > Does anyone know if you can sort a list after it has been subtotalled?
> > The reason I ask is because I am basically sorting a list based on a criteria
> > and then deleted all transactions that offset to each other to equal zero. So
> > if I could sort the list after it was subtotalled all the subtotalled amounts
> > that equaled zero would be in order and I could delete them all at once,
> > instead of scanning through the list. Any help would save me a huge amount of
> > time.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >

That would not work. The reason why is because I am trying to match numbers
that will equal zero, then delete them once I have matched them. So what I
have been doing is sorting them, subtotalling them, and deleting all of them
that equal zero. But I would like to somehow get all of the transactions that
offset to zero together so I could delete them all at once.

Thanks,

"JMB" wrote:

> Would it be better to remove the subtotals (Data/Subtotals/Remove All) then
> sort/delete data, then re-apply the subototals?
>
>
>
> "Rich" wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > Does anyone know if you can sort a list after it has been subtotalled?
> > The reason I ask is because I am basically sorting a list based on a criteria
> > and then deleted all transactions that offset to each other to equal zero. So
> > if I could sort the list after it was subtotalled all the subtotalled amounts
> > that equaled zero would be in order and I could delete them all at once,
> > instead of scanning through the list. Any help would save me a huge amount of
> > time.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >

That would not work. The reason why is because I am trying to match numbers
that will equal zero, then delete them once I have matched them. So what I
have been doing is sorting them, subtotalling them, and deleting all of them
that equal zero. But I would like to somehow get all of the transactions that
offset to zero together so I could delete them all at once.

"JMB" wrote:

> Would it be better to remove the subtotals (Data/Subtotals/Remove All) then
> sort/delete data, then re-apply the subototals?
>
>
>
> "Rich" wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > Does anyone know if you can sort a list after it has been subtotalled?
> > The reason I ask is because I am basically sorting a list based on a criteria
> > and then deleted all transactions that offset to each other to equal zero. So
> > if I could sort the list after it was subtotalled all the subtotalled amounts
> > that equaled zero would be in order and I could delete them all at once,
> > instead of scanning through the list. Any help would save me a huge amount of
> > time.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >

I think I see what you're getting at. Try collapsing the subtotals so you
only see the subtotals, not the details, then try sorting (based on whatever
column has the subtotal amount). Tested it on my machine and it looks like
it will sort the table using the subtotal amount as the key.

Be sure to back up your data and, after sorting, match the details of one or
two of your subtotals to make sure it moved the details (comprising the
subtotal) when you sorted the data. Again, on the test I ran, it looks like
it will work.





"Rich" wrote:

> That would not work. The reason why is because I am trying to match numbers
> that will equal zero, then delete them once I have matched them. So what I
> have been doing is sorting them, subtotalling them, and deleting all of them
> that equal zero. But I would like to somehow get all of the transactions that
> offset to zero together so I could delete them all at once.
>
> Thanks,
>
> "JMB" wrote:
>
> > Would it be better to remove the subtotals (Data/Subtotals/Remove All) then
> > sort/delete data, then re-apply the subototals?
> >
> >
> >
> > "Rich" wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > Does anyone know if you can sort a list after it has been subtotalled?
> > > The reason I ask is because I am basically sorting a list based on a criteria
> > > and then deleted all transactions that offset to each other to equal zero. So
> > > if I could sort the list after it was subtotalled all the subtotalled amounts
> > > that equaled zero would be in order and I could delete them all at once,
> > > instead of scanning through the list. Any help would save me a huge amount of
> > > time.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >

I tried that previously and it didn't appear to work. Are you running Office
XP? I only have Office 2000. What steps did you actually do?

Thanks,

"JMB" wrote:

> I think I see what you're getting at. Try collapsing the subtotals so you
> only see the subtotals, not the details, then try sorting (based on whatever
> column has the subtotal amount). Tested it on my machine and it looks like
> it will sort the table using the subtotal amount as the key.
>
> Be sure to back up your data and, after sorting, match the details of one or
> two of your subtotals to make sure it moved the details (comprising the
> subtotal) when you sorted the data. Again, on the test I ran, it looks like
> it will work.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Rich" wrote:
>
> > That would not work. The reason why is because I am trying to match numbers
> > that will equal zero, then delete them once I have matched them. So what I
> > have been doing is sorting them, subtotalling them, and deleting all of them
> > that equal zero. But I would like to somehow get all of the transactions that
> > offset to zero together so I could delete them all at once.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > "JMB" wrote:
> >
> > > Would it be better to remove the subtotals (Data/Subtotals/Remove All) then
> > > sort/delete data, then re-apply the subototals?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Rich" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > > Does anyone know if you can sort a list after it has been subtotalled?
> > > > The reason I ask is because I am basically sorting a list based on a criteria
> > > > and then deleted all transactions that offset to each other to equal zero. So
> > > > if I could sort the list after it was subtotalled all the subtotalled amounts
> > > > that equaled zero would be in order and I could delete them all at once,
> > > > instead of scanning through the list. Any help would save me a huge amount of
> > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >

I have Office 2000.

I set up a table with Names and Amounts. Then I clicked Data/Subtotals
(every change in Name, Sum Amounts). Then I collapsed the data so I could
only see the subtotals

A B
Name Amount
1 x total 15
2 y total 0
3 z total 30
4 Grand Total 45


Then, I selected A1:B3 (excluded the Grand Total line), clicked Data/Sort,
primary key = Amount, ascending order, resulting in

A B
Name Amount
1 y total 0
2 x total 15
3 z total 30
4 Grand Total 45


I then expanded the next level. Details were all intact.


"Rich" wrote:

> I tried that previously and it didn't appear to work. Are you running Office
> XP? I only have Office 2000. What steps did you actually do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> "JMB" wrote:
>
> > I think I see what you're getting at. Try collapsing the subtotals so you
> > only see the subtotals, not the details, then try sorting (based on whatever
> > column has the subtotal amount). Tested it on my machine and it looks like
> > it will sort the table using the subtotal amount as the key.
> >
> > Be sure to back up your data and, after sorting, match the details of one or
> > two of your subtotals to make sure it moved the details (comprising the
> > subtotal) when you sorted the data. Again, on the test I ran, it looks like
> > it will work.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Rich" wrote:
> >
> > > That would not work. The reason why is because I am trying to match numbers
> > > that will equal zero, then delete them once I have matched them. So what I
> > > have been doing is sorting them, subtotalling them, and deleting all of them
> > > that equal zero. But I would like to somehow get all of the transactions that
> > > offset to zero together so I could delete them all at once.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > "JMB" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Would it be better to remove the subtotals (Data/Subtotals/Remove All) then
> > > > sort/delete data, then re-apply the subototals?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Rich" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > Does anyone know if you can sort a list after it has been subtotalled?
> > > > > The reason I ask is because I am basically sorting a list based on a criteria
> > > > > and then deleted all transactions that offset to each other to equal zero. So
> > > > > if I could sort the list after it was subtotalled all the subtotalled amounts
> > > > > that equaled zero would be in order and I could delete them all at once,
> > > > > instead of scanning through the list. Any help would save me a huge amount of
> > > > > time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >

JMB Thanks a ton. I was able to get it to work. The mistake I was making was
just highlighting the whole sheet once it was subtotalled and you can't sort
that way. You have to just highlight the subtotalled group itself and then
sort. You just saved me a ton of time. I wish I had known this feature
earlier.

Thanks!

"JMB" wrote:

> I have Office 2000.
>
> I set up a table with Names and Amounts. Then I clicked Data/Subtotals
> (every change in Name, Sum Amounts). Then I collapsed the data so I could
> only see the subtotals
>
> A B
> Name Amount
> 1 x total 15
> 2 y total 0
> 3 z total 30
> 4 Grand Total 45
>
>
> Then, I selected A1:B3 (excluded the Grand Total line), clicked Data/Sort,
> primary key = Amount, ascending order, resulting in
>
> A B
> Name Amount
> 1 y total 0
> 2 x total 15
> 3 z total 30
> 4 Grand Total 45
>
>
> I then expanded the next level. Details were all intact.
>
>
> "Rich" wrote:
>
> > I tried that previously and it didn't appear to work. Are you running Office
> > XP? I only have Office 2000. What steps did you actually do?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > "JMB" wrote:
> >
> > > I think I see what you're getting at. Try collapsing the subtotals so you
> > > only see the subtotals, not the details, then try sorting (based on whatever
> > > column has the subtotal amount). Tested it on my machine and it looks like
> > > it will sort the table using the subtotal amount as the key.
> > >
> > > Be sure to back up your data and, after sorting, match the details of one or
> > > two of your subtotals to make sure it moved the details (comprising the
> > > subtotal) when you sorted the data. Again, on the test I ran, it looks like
> > > it will work.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Rich" wrote:
> > >
> > > > That would not work. The reason why is because I am trying to match numbers
> > > > that will equal zero, then delete them once I have matched them. So what I
> > > > have been doing is sorting them, subtotalling them, and deleting all of them
> > > > that equal zero. But I would like to somehow get all of the transactions that
> > > > offset to zero together so I could delete them all at once.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > "JMB" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Would it be better to remove the subtotals (Data/Subtotals/Remove All) then
> > > > > sort/delete data, then re-apply the subototals?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Rich" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > Does anyone know if you can sort a list after it has been subtotalled?
> > > > > > The reason I ask is because I am basically sorting a list based on a criteria
> > > > > > and then deleted all transactions that offset to each other to equal zero. So
> > > > > > if I could sort the list after it was subtotalled all the subtotalled amounts
> > > > > > that equaled zero would be in order and I could delete them all at once,
> > > > > > instead of scanning through the list. Any help would save me a huge amount of
> > > > > > time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >

you're welcome. although I had never tried it before now, either.

"Rich" wrote:

> JMB Thanks a ton. I was able to get it to work. The mistake I was making was
> just highlighting the whole sheet once it was subtotalled and you can't sort
> that way. You have to just highlight the subtotalled group itself and then
> sort. You just saved me a ton of time. I wish I had known this feature
> earlier.
>
> Thanks!
>
> "JMB" wrote:
>
> > I have Office 2000.
> >
> > I set up a table with Names and Amounts. Then I clicked Data/Subtotals
> > (every change in Name, Sum Amounts). Then I collapsed the data so I could
> > only see the subtotals
> >
> > A B
> > Name Amount
> > 1 x total 15
> > 2 y total 0
> > 3 z total 30
> > 4 Grand Total 45
> >
> >
> > Then, I selected A1:B3 (excluded the Grand Total line), clicked Data/Sort,
> > primary key = Amount, ascending order, resulting in
> >
> > A B
> > Name Amount
> > 1 y total 0
> > 2 x total 15
> > 3 z total 30
> > 4 Grand Total 45
> >
> >
> > I then expanded the next level. Details were all intact.
> >
> >
> > "Rich" wrote:
> >
> > > I tried that previously and it didn't appear to work. Are you running Office
> > > XP? I only have Office 2000. What steps did you actually do?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > "JMB" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think I see what you're getting at. Try collapsing the subtotals so you
> > > > only see the subtotals, not the details, then try sorting (based on whatever
> > > > column has the subtotal amount). Tested it on my machine and it looks like
> > > > it will sort the table using the subtotal amount as the key.
> > > >
> > > > Be sure to back up your data and, after sorting, match the details of one or
> > > > two of your subtotals to make sure it moved the details (comprising the
> > > > subtotal) when you sorted the data. Again, on the test I ran, it looks like
> > > > it will work.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Rich" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > That would not work. The reason why is because I am trying to match numbers
> > > > > that will equal zero, then delete them once I have matched them. So what I
> > > > > have been doing is sorting them, subtotalling them, and deleting all of them
> > > > > that equal zero. But I would like to somehow get all of the transactions that
> > > > > offset to zero together so I could delete them all at once.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > "JMB" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Would it be better to remove the subtotals (Data/Subtotals/Remove All) then
> > > > > > sort/delete data, then re-apply the subototals?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Rich" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > Does anyone know if you can sort a list after it has been subtotalled?
> > > > > > > The reason I ask is because I am basically sorting a list based on a criteria
> > > > > > > and then deleted all transactions that offset to each other to equal zero. So
> > > > > > > if I could sort the list after it was subtotalled all the subtotalled amounts
> > > > > > > that equaled zero would be in order and I could delete them all at once,
> > > > > > > instead of scanning through the list. Any help would save me a huge amount of
> > > > > > > time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >