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Is there an "if ... do nothing" mechanisim?

  1. #1
    GSalisbury
    Guest

    Is there an "if ... do nothing" mechanisim?

    Sorry if this is already discussed somewhere but I just can't find it.
    I'm basically new to Excel and maybe just don't know how to phase my
    question.
    Please point me to it if it's there.
    Anyway (I'm v7.0 in Office95 PRO if that matters)...

    Can I form an "if already there leave it alone otherwise if something is
    elsewhere do this" statement? Specifically I'm dealing with [current] date
    and time values. I'm trying to capture the date/time I enter something in a
    cell.

    What I have is:

    Date Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3...

    What I'm trying to do is-

    . when something is in any Time cell put the current date in the Date
    cell [once].
    . when something is in a vn cell put the current time in the sets Time
    cell [once].

    I can get it to appear to work but when I open the file let's say two days
    later the dates and times all change to "then" they don't stay as the
    intended values of when the data was entered.

    Hopefully what I'm trying to do and is happening is clear enough and a
    solution exists.

    TIA.
    gs



  2. #2
    Ian
    Guest

    Re: Is there an "if ... do nothing" mechanisim?

    Unable to test this until the date changes, but it works OK with NOW() in
    place of TODAY().

    Put this in A2.

    =IF(B2="","",IF(A2="",TODAY(),A2))

    --
    Ian
    --
    "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Sorry if this is already discussed somewhere but I just can't find it.
    > I'm basically new to Excel and maybe just don't know how to phase my
    > question.
    > Please point me to it if it's there.
    > Anyway (I'm v7.0 in Office95 PRO if that matters)...
    >
    > Can I form an "if already there leave it alone otherwise if something is
    > elsewhere do this" statement? Specifically I'm dealing with [current] date
    > and time values. I'm trying to capture the date/time I enter something in
    > a
    > cell.
    >
    > What I have is:
    >
    > Date Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2
    > v3...
    >
    > What I'm trying to do is-
    >
    > . when something is in any Time cell put the current date in the Date
    > cell [once].
    > . when something is in a vn cell put the current time in the sets Time
    > cell [once].
    >
    > I can get it to appear to work but when I open the file let's say two days
    > later the dates and times all change to "then" they don't stay as the
    > intended values of when the data was entered.
    >
    > Hopefully what I'm trying to do and is happening is clear enough and a
    > solution exists.
    >
    > TIA.
    > gs
    >
    >




  3. #3
    GSalisbury
    Guest

    Re: Is there an "if ... do nothing" mechanisim?

    Ian,
    Thanks.
    That was sort of one of my attempts (not the NOW part) and what I get is:
    "Cannot resolve circular references" using the A2=A2 syntax.
    That is what my problem is - how to tell it to leave a cell alone I like it
    the way it is.
    Geo.

    "Ian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Unable to test this until the date changes, but it works OK with NOW() in
    > place of TODAY().
    >
    > Put this in A2.
    >
    > =IF(B2="","",IF(A2="",TODAY(),A2))
    >
    > --
    > Ian
    > --
    > "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Sorry if this is already discussed somewhere but I just can't find it.
    > > I'm basically new to Excel and maybe just don't know how to phase my
    > > question.
    > > Please point me to it if it's there.
    > > Anyway (I'm v7.0 in Office95 PRO if that matters)...
    > >
    > > Can I form an "if already there leave it alone otherwise if something is
    > > elsewhere do this" statement? Specifically I'm dealing with [current]

    date
    > > and time values. I'm trying to capture the date/time I enter something

    in
    > > a
    > > cell.
    > >
    > > What I have is:
    > >
    > > Date Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2
    > > v3...
    > >
    > > What I'm trying to do is-
    > >
    > > . when something is in any Time cell put the current date in the Date
    > > cell [once].
    > > . when something is in a vn cell put the current time in the sets

    Time
    > > cell [once].
    > >
    > > I can get it to appear to work but when I open the file let's say two

    days
    > > later the dates and times all change to "then" they don't stay as the
    > > intended values of when the data was entered.
    > >
    > > Hopefully what I'm trying to do and is happening is clear enough and a
    > > solution exists.
    > >
    > > TIA.
    > > gs
    > >
    > >

    >
    >




  4. #4
    Bill Kuunders
    Guest

    Re: Is there an "if ... do nothing" mechanisim?

    Have a look at

    http://www.dataschenk.com/Newsletter...xDateStamp.htm

    Greetings from New Zealand
    Bill K

    "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Ian,
    > Thanks.
    > That was sort of one of my attempts (not the NOW part) and what I get is:
    > "Cannot resolve circular references" using the A2=A2 syntax.
    > That is what my problem is - how to tell it to leave a cell alone I like
    > it
    > the way it is.
    > Geo.
    >
    > "Ian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Unable to test this until the date changes, but it works OK with NOW() in
    >> place of TODAY().
    >>
    >> Put this in A2.
    >>
    >> =IF(B2="","",IF(A2="",TODAY(),A2))
    >>
    >> --
    >> Ian
    >> --
    >> "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >> > Sorry if this is already discussed somewhere but I just can't find it.
    >> > I'm basically new to Excel and maybe just don't know how to phase my
    >> > question.
    >> > Please point me to it if it's there.
    >> > Anyway (I'm v7.0 in Office95 PRO if that matters)...
    >> >
    >> > Can I form an "if already there leave it alone otherwise if something
    >> > is
    >> > elsewhere do this" statement? Specifically I'm dealing with [current]

    > date
    >> > and time values. I'm trying to capture the date/time I enter something

    > in
    >> > a
    >> > cell.
    >> >
    >> > What I have is:
    >> >
    >> > Date Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2
    >> > v3...
    >> >
    >> > What I'm trying to do is-
    >> >
    >> > . when something is in any Time cell put the current date in the
    >> > Date
    >> > cell [once].
    >> > . when something is in a vn cell put the current time in the sets

    > Time
    >> > cell [once].
    >> >
    >> > I can get it to appear to work but when I open the file let's say two

    > days
    >> > later the dates and times all change to "then" they don't stay as the
    >> > intended values of when the data was entered.
    >> >
    >> > Hopefully what I'm trying to do and is happening is clear enough and a
    >> > solution exists.
    >> >
    >> > TIA.
    >> > gs
    >> >
    >> >

    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  5. #5
    Peo Sjoblom
    Guest

    Re: Is there an "if ... do nothing" mechanisim?

    Tools>options>calculation and check iteration

    also see

    http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/timestamp.html

    --
    Regards,

    Peo Sjoblom

    (No private emails please)


    "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Ian,
    > Thanks.
    > That was sort of one of my attempts (not the NOW part) and what I get is:
    > "Cannot resolve circular references" using the A2=A2 syntax.
    > That is what my problem is - how to tell it to leave a cell alone I like
    > it
    > the way it is.
    > Geo.
    >
    > "Ian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Unable to test this until the date changes, but it works OK with NOW() in
    >> place of TODAY().
    >>
    >> Put this in A2.
    >>
    >> =IF(B2="","",IF(A2="",TODAY(),A2))
    >>
    >> --
    >> Ian
    >> --
    >> "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >> > Sorry if this is already discussed somewhere but I just can't find it.
    >> > I'm basically new to Excel and maybe just don't know how to phase my
    >> > question.
    >> > Please point me to it if it's there.
    >> > Anyway (I'm v7.0 in Office95 PRO if that matters)...
    >> >
    >> > Can I form an "if already there leave it alone otherwise if something
    >> > is
    >> > elsewhere do this" statement? Specifically I'm dealing with [current]

    > date
    >> > and time values. I'm trying to capture the date/time I enter something

    > in
    >> > a
    >> > cell.
    >> >
    >> > What I have is:
    >> >
    >> > Date Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2
    >> > v3...
    >> >
    >> > What I'm trying to do is-
    >> >
    >> > . when something is in any Time cell put the current date in the
    >> > Date
    >> > cell [once].
    >> > . when something is in a vn cell put the current time in the sets

    > Time
    >> > cell [once].
    >> >
    >> > I can get it to appear to work but when I open the file let's say two

    > days
    >> > later the dates and times all change to "then" they don't stay as the
    >> > intended values of when the data was entered.
    >> >
    >> > Hopefully what I'm trying to do and is happening is clear enough and a
    >> > solution exists.
    >> >
    >> > TIA.
    >> > gs
    >> >
    >> >

    >>
    >>

    >
    >



  6. #6
    GSalisbury
    Guest

    Re: Is there an "if ... do nothing" mechanisim?

    Bill,
    Peo,
    Thanks for the links to the timestamp macros - they're keepers.
    For the low-level sheet I'm playing with (tracking blood pressure and pulse
    readings) the NOW function and the Iteration Option seems to do more less
    what I want (I think).
    I'll have to play with it a little more at work (that's what work is for
    isn't it<g>) to see it I can parse the date and time pieces out of the
    ddd.ttt return.
    I'll post back with my results.
    Again, thanks.
    Geo.

    "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Ian,
    > Thanks.
    > That was sort of one of my attempts (not the NOW part) and what I get is:
    > "Cannot resolve circular references" using the A2=A2 syntax.
    > That is what my problem is - how to tell it to leave a cell alone I like

    it
    > the way it is.
    > Geo.
    >
    > "Ian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Unable to test this until the date changes, but it works OK with NOW()

    in
    > > place of TODAY().
    > >
    > > Put this in A2.
    > >
    > > =IF(B2="","",IF(A2="",TODAY(),A2))
    > >
    > > --
    > > Ian
    > > --
    > > "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Sorry if this is already discussed somewhere but I just can't find it.
    > > > I'm basically new to Excel and maybe just don't know how to phase my
    > > > question.
    > > > Please point me to it if it's there.
    > > > Anyway (I'm v7.0 in Office95 PRO if that matters)...
    > > >
    > > > Can I form an "if already there leave it alone otherwise if something

    is
    > > > elsewhere do this" statement? Specifically I'm dealing with [current]

    > date
    > > > and time values. I'm trying to capture the date/time I enter something

    > in
    > > > a
    > > > cell.
    > > >
    > > > What I have is:
    > > >
    > > > Date Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2
    > > > v3...
    > > >
    > > > What I'm trying to do is-
    > > >
    > > > . when something is in any Time cell put the current date in the

    Date
    > > > cell [once].
    > > > . when something is in a vn cell put the current time in the sets

    > Time
    > > > cell [once].
    > > >
    > > > I can get it to appear to work but when I open the file let's say two

    > days
    > > > later the dates and times all change to "then" they don't stay as the
    > > > intended values of when the data was entered.
    > > >
    > > > Hopefully what I'm trying to do and is happening is clear enough and a
    > > > solution exists.
    > > >
    > > > TIA.
    > > > gs
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >




  7. #7
    Bill Kuunders
    Guest

    Re: Is there an "if ... do nothing" mechanisim?

    Of course there is also the shortcut to enter the time
    hold <cntrl><shift>push : (colon)
    or for the date hold <cntrl> push ; semicolon

    --
    Greetings from New Zealand
    Bill K
    "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Bill,
    > Peo,
    > Thanks for the links to the timestamp macros - they're keepers.
    > For the low-level sheet I'm playing with (tracking blood pressure and
    > pulse
    > readings) the NOW function and the Iteration Option seems to do more less
    > what I want (I think).
    > I'll have to play with it a little more at work (that's what work is for
    > isn't it<g>) to see it I can parse the date and time pieces out of the
    > ddd.ttt return.
    > I'll post back with my results.
    > Again, thanks.
    > Geo.
    >
    > "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Ian,
    >> Thanks.
    >> That was sort of one of my attempts (not the NOW part) and what I get is:
    >> "Cannot resolve circular references" using the A2=A2 syntax.
    >> That is what my problem is - how to tell it to leave a cell alone I like

    > it
    >> the way it is.
    >> Geo.
    >>
    >> "Ian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >> > Unable to test this until the date changes, but it works OK with NOW()

    > in
    >> > place of TODAY().
    >> >
    >> > Put this in A2.
    >> >
    >> > =IF(B2="","",IF(A2="",TODAY(),A2))
    >> >
    >> > --
    >> > Ian
    >> > --
    >> > "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    >> > news:[email protected]...
    >> > > Sorry if this is already discussed somewhere but I just can't find
    >> > > it.
    >> > > I'm basically new to Excel and maybe just don't know how to phase my
    >> > > question.
    >> > > Please point me to it if it's there.
    >> > > Anyway (I'm v7.0 in Office95 PRO if that matters)...
    >> > >
    >> > > Can I form an "if already there leave it alone otherwise if something

    > is
    >> > > elsewhere do this" statement? Specifically I'm dealing with [current]

    >> date
    >> > > and time values. I'm trying to capture the date/time I enter
    >> > > something

    >> in
    >> > > a
    >> > > cell.
    >> > >
    >> > > What I have is:
    >> > >
    >> > > Date Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2
    >> > > v3...
    >> > >
    >> > > What I'm trying to do is-
    >> > >
    >> > > . when something is in any Time cell put the current date in the

    > Date
    >> > > cell [once].
    >> > > . when something is in a vn cell put the current time in the sets

    >> Time
    >> > > cell [once].
    >> > >
    >> > > I can get it to appear to work but when I open the file let's say two

    >> days
    >> > > later the dates and times all change to "then" they don't stay as the
    >> > > intended values of when the data was entered.
    >> > >
    >> > > Hopefully what I'm trying to do and is happening is clear enough and
    >> > > a
    >> > > solution exists.
    >> > >
    >> > > TIA.
    >> > > gs
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> >
    >> >

    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  8. #8
    GSalisbury
    Guest

    Re: Is there an "if ... do nothing" mechanisim?

    Bill,
    Thanks.
    I really don't know any of Excel's shortcut keys - I'll have to try to
    remember these I can see how they'd come in handy.
    I was looking for something a little more auto-entered.
    I think I found what I wanted - see other response.
    Geo.

    "Bill Kuunders" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Of course there is also the shortcut to enter the time
    > hold <cntrl><shift>push : (colon)
    > or for the date hold <cntrl> push ; semicolon
    >
    > --
    > Greetings from New Zealand
    > Bill K
    > "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Bill,
    > > Peo,
    > > Thanks for the links to the timestamp macros - they're keepers.
    > > For the low-level sheet I'm playing with (tracking blood pressure and
    > > pulse
    > > readings) the NOW function and the Iteration Option seems to do more

    less
    > > what I want (I think).
    > > I'll have to play with it a little more at work (that's what work is for
    > > isn't it<g>) to see it I can parse the date and time pieces out of the
    > > ddd.ttt return.
    > > I'll post back with my results.
    > > Again, thanks.
    > > Geo.
    > >
    > > "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > >> Ian,
    > >> Thanks.
    > >> That was sort of one of my attempts (not the NOW part) and what I get

    is:
    > >> "Cannot resolve circular references" using the A2=A2 syntax.
    > >> That is what my problem is - how to tell it to leave a cell alone I

    like
    > > it
    > >> the way it is.
    > >> Geo.
    > >>
    > >> "Ian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >> news:[email protected]...
    > >> > Unable to test this until the date changes, but it works OK with

    NOW()
    > > in
    > >> > place of TODAY().
    > >> >
    > >> > Put this in A2.
    > >> >
    > >> > =IF(B2="","",IF(A2="",TODAY(),A2))
    > >> >
    > >> > --
    > >> > Ian
    > >> > --
    > >> > "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    > >> > news:[email protected]...
    > >> > > Sorry if this is already discussed somewhere but I just can't find
    > >> > > it.
    > >> > > I'm basically new to Excel and maybe just don't know how to phase

    my
    > >> > > question.
    > >> > > Please point me to it if it's there.
    > >> > > Anyway (I'm v7.0 in Office95 PRO if that matters)...
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Can I form an "if already there leave it alone otherwise if

    something
    > > is
    > >> > > elsewhere do this" statement? Specifically I'm dealing with

    [current]
    > >> date
    > >> > > and time values. I'm trying to capture the date/time I enter
    > >> > > something
    > >> in
    > >> > > a
    > >> > > cell.
    > >> > >
    > >> > > What I have is:
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Date Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1

    v2
    > >> > > v3...
    > >> > >
    > >> > > What I'm trying to do is-
    > >> > >
    > >> > > . when something is in any Time cell put the current date in the

    > > Date
    > >> > > cell [once].
    > >> > > . when something is in a vn cell put the current time in the

    sets
    > >> Time
    > >> > > cell [once].
    > >> > >
    > >> > > I can get it to appear to work but when I open the file let's say

    two
    > >> days
    > >> > > later the dates and times all change to "then" they don't stay as

    the
    > >> > > intended values of when the data was entered.
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Hopefully what I'm trying to do and is happening is clear enough

    and
    > >> > > a
    > >> > > solution exists.
    > >> > >
    > >> > > TIA.
    > >> > > gs
    > >> > >
    > >> > >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >>

    > >
    > >

    >
    >




  9. #9
    GSalisbury
    Guest

    Re: Is there an "if ... do nothing" mechanisim?

    Thanks all for the input.
    I was able to construct what I needed.
    IYI, this is an example of some of it with Tools/Options Iteration controls
    "on":

    this is A26:
    =IF( AND(B26="",F26="",J26="",N26=""), "", IF(A26="",NOW(), A26 ) )

    this B26, F26, J26 and N26 (F, J and N reference their adjacent 3 cells):
    =IF( AND(C26="",D26="",E26=""), "", IF(B26="",ROUND(NOW()*$IV$2,0)/$IV$2,
    B26 ) )

    this is an x26 (someday I'll concatenate it with A26):
    =IF(A26<>"",
    LOOKUP(WEEKDAY(A26),{1,2,3,4,5,6,7;"Sun","Mon","Tue","Wed","Thu","Fri","Sat"
    }), "" )

    The $IV$2 in the B26 et.al. references a cell with a value for rounding to
    nearest minutes. In my case it's 288 for nearest 5 minutes. I got this,
    actually, from an 11/22 post in this group. Many thanks Bob Phillips. It was
    an amazing coincidence of timing as that is exactly what I would have wanted
    to do with the result.

    "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Sorry if this is already discussed somewhere but I just can't find it.
    > I'm basically new to Excel and maybe just don't know how to phase my
    > question.
    > Please point me to it if it's there.
    > Anyway (I'm v7.0 in Office95 PRO if that matters)...
    >
    > Can I form an "if already there leave it alone otherwise if something is
    > elsewhere do this" statement? Specifically I'm dealing with [current] date
    > and time values. I'm trying to capture the date/time I enter something in

    a
    > cell.
    >
    > What I have is:
    >
    > Date Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2

    v3...
    >
    > What I'm trying to do is-
    >
    > . when something is in any Time cell put the current date in the Date
    > cell [once].
    > . when something is in a vn cell put the current time in the sets Time
    > cell [once].
    >
    > I can get it to appear to work but when I open the file let's say two days
    > later the dates and times all change to "then" they don't stay as the
    > intended values of when the data was entered.
    >
    > Hopefully what I'm trying to do and is happening is clear enough and a
    > solution exists.
    >
    > TIA.
    > gs
    >
    >




  10. #10
    GSalisbury
    Guest

    Re: Is there an "if ... do nothing" mechanisim?

    I left out that A26 has a Date Format and the B, F, J and N 26es have Time
    formats.

    "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Thanks all for the input.
    > I was able to construct what I needed.
    > IYI, this is an example of some of it with Tools/Options Iteration

    controls
    > "on":
    >
    > this is A26:
    > =IF( AND(B26="",F26="",J26="",N26=""), "", IF(A26="",NOW(), A26 ) )
    >
    > this B26, F26, J26 and N26 (F, J and N reference their adjacent 3 cells):
    > =IF( AND(C26="",D26="",E26=""), "", IF(B26="",ROUND(NOW()*$IV$2,0)/$IV$2,
    > B26 ) )
    >
    > this is an x26 (someday I'll concatenate it with A26):
    > =IF(A26<>"",
    >

    LOOKUP(WEEKDAY(A26),{1,2,3,4,5,6,7;"Sun","Mon","Tue","Wed","Thu","Fri","Sat"
    > }), "" )
    >
    > The $IV$2 in the B26 et.al. references a cell with a value for rounding to
    > nearest minutes. In my case it's 288 for nearest 5 minutes. I got this,
    > actually, from an 11/22 post in this group. Many thanks Bob Phillips. It

    was
    > an amazing coincidence of timing as that is exactly what I would have

    wanted
    > to do with the result.
    >
    > "GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Sorry if this is already discussed somewhere but I just can't find it.
    > > I'm basically new to Excel and maybe just don't know how to phase my
    > > question.
    > > Please point me to it if it's there.
    > > Anyway (I'm v7.0 in Office95 PRO if that matters)...
    > >
    > > Can I form an "if already there leave it alone otherwise if something is
    > > elsewhere do this" statement? Specifically I'm dealing with [current]

    date
    > > and time values. I'm trying to capture the date/time I enter something

    in
    > a
    > > cell.
    > >
    > > What I have is:
    > >
    > > Date Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2 v3 Time v1 v2

    > v3...
    > >
    > > What I'm trying to do is-
    > >
    > > . when something is in any Time cell put the current date in the

    Date
    > > cell [once].
    > > . when something is in a vn cell put the current time in the sets

    Time
    > > cell [once].
    > >
    > > I can get it to appear to work but when I open the file let's say two

    days
    > > later the dates and times all change to "then" they don't stay as the
    > > intended values of when the data was entered.
    > >
    > > Hopefully what I'm trying to do and is happening is clear enough and a
    > > solution exists.
    > >
    > > TIA.
    > > gs
    > >
    > >

    >
    >




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