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PROBLEM WITH WORKBOOKS IN DIFFERENT WINDOWS

  1. #1
    KandK
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    PROBLEM WITH WORKBOOKS IN DIFFERENT WINDOWS

    I have two workbooks that are linked and if I open them in the same window
    they work together perfectly. However I need to open them in separate windows
    so one can be viewed on a separate monitor. When I do this it asks me if I
    want to update the links which I do but the relevant cells just show #VALUE!.
    Even if I go to Edit/Links and try to Update Values or Change Source even
    though it finds the right work book (it is password protected and asks for
    the password) the relevant cells still show #VALUE!. Is what I am trying to
    do impossible or am I missing something obvious.
    If it helps this is the formula when I open them in the same window:
    =IF(ISNA(MATCH($D$2-1,'[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE
    2006'!$C$2:$IJ$2,0)-1),"",OFFSET('[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE
    2006'!$C$2:$C$140,,MATCH($D$2-1,'[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE
    2006'!$C$2:$IJ$2,0)-1))
    And this is the formula when I open them in different windows;
    =IF(ISNA(MATCH($D$2-1,'C:\Documents and Settings\D
    Clarke\Desktop\[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE
    2006'!$C$2:$IJ$2,0)-1),"",OFFSET('C:\Documents and Settings\D
    Clarke\Desktop\[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE
    2006'!$C$2:$C$140,,MATCH($D$2-1,'C:\Documents and Settings\D
    Clarke\Desktop\[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE 2006'!$C$2:$IJ$2,0)-1))
    If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks.


  2. #2
    Dave Peterson
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    Re: PROBLEM WITH WORKBOOKS IN DIFFERENT WINDOWS

    It sounds like you're actually opening the two different files in separate
    instances of excel.

    If that's true, then each instance of excel doesn't know about the other
    instance. So the first instance of excel just knows that bookings.xls is a
    closed file.

    And there are some worksheet functions that don't work with closed files:
    =offset(), =countif(), =sumif()
    are a couple.

    If you could open both workbooks in the same instance and have multiple windows
    (Window|new window) open in that instance, you would see the results.

    (I don't know if that will work with multiple monitors, though.)

    Alternatively, you may be able to use an alternative worksheet function. Maybe
    =index() would would work for you.

    KandK wrote:
    >
    > I have two workbooks that are linked and if I open them in the same window
    > they work together perfectly. However I need to open them in separate windows
    > so one can be viewed on a separate monitor. When I do this it asks me if I
    > want to update the links which I do but the relevant cells just show #VALUE!.
    > Even if I go to Edit/Links and try to Update Values or Change Source even
    > though it finds the right work book (it is password protected and asks for
    > the password) the relevant cells still show #VALUE!. Is what I am trying to
    > do impossible or am I missing something obvious.
    > If it helps this is the formula when I open them in the same window:
    > =IF(ISNA(MATCH($D$2-1,'[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE
    > 2006'!$C$2:$IJ$2,0)-1),"",OFFSET('[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE
    > 2006'!$C$2:$C$140,,MATCH($D$2-1,'[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE
    > 2006'!$C$2:$IJ$2,0)-1))
    > And this is the formula when I open them in different windows;
    > =IF(ISNA(MATCH($D$2-1,'C:\Documents and Settings\D
    > Clarke\Desktop\[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE
    > 2006'!$C$2:$IJ$2,0)-1),"",OFFSET('C:\Documents and Settings\D
    > Clarke\Desktop\[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE
    > 2006'!$C$2:$C$140,,MATCH($D$2-1,'C:\Documents and Settings\D
    > Clarke\Desktop\[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE 2006'!$C$2:$IJ$2,0)-1))
    > If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks.


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    Dave Peterson

  3. #3
    Max
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    Re: PROBLEM WITH WORKBOOKS IN DIFFERENT WINDOWS

    Just to add on a little to Dave's good idea ..
    > .. Maybe =index() would would work for you.


    Instead of:
    > =IF(ISNA(MATCH($D$2-1,'[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE
    > 2006'!$C$2:$IJ$2,0)-1),"",OFFSET('[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE
    > 2006'!$C$2:$C$140,,MATCH($D$2-1,'[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE
    > 2006'!$C$2:$IJ$2,0)-1))


    Try something like:
    =IF(ISNA(MATCH($D$2-1,'[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE
    2006'!$C$2:$IJ$2,0)),"",INDEX('[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE
    2006'!$C$2:$IJ$140,,MATCH($D$2-1,'[BOOKINGS.xls]NOV 2005 - JUNE
    2006'!$C$2:$IJ$2,0)))

    Above is untested but think it should work ok ..

    The changes:
    1. Removed the extraneous "-1" bit from within the: ISNA(MATCH(...)-1)
    (overlooked this earlier, sorry)

    2. Amended the OFFSET to suit INDEX, viz.:
    a. Indexed range is $C$2:$IJ$140 (changed from the OFFSET's $C$2:$C$140)
    b. Adjusted OFFSET's "MATCH(...)-1" part, i.e. removed the arithmetic "-1"
    adjustment from "MATCH(...)-1" which is not required in
    INDEX(...,,MATCH(...))

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  4. #4
    KandK
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    Re: PROBLEM WITH WORKBOOKS IN DIFFERENT WINDOWS

    This works great, it is now seeing the information on opening the program and
    also changes the information when the day changes (there is three columns on
    the worksheet, yesterday, today and tomorrow). However for some reason when I
    enter information on the first workbook (Bookings) it does not automatically
    update the information onto the other program. I have the Update remote
    references in Tools checked and also the Automatic option in the Links dialog
    box is checked. Am I doing something wrong or won't this sort of link
    automatically update. Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated. Many
    thanks.

  5. #5
    Dave Peterson
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    Re: PROBLEM WITH WORKBOOKS IN DIFFERENT WINDOWS

    If you're still opening the files in different instances, then the "sending"
    file needs to be saved before any change will be reflected in the first
    workbook.

    Then in the receiving workbook, you can use Edit|Links|Update values to get the
    newly saved values.

    Or if there's only a couple of cells, you can:
    select the cell
    hit F2, then enter

    Excel will think that you're reentering a new formula and reevaluate it.

    KandK wrote:
    >
    > This works great, it is now seeing the information on opening the program and
    > also changes the information when the day changes (there is three columns on
    > the worksheet, yesterday, today and tomorrow). However for some reason when I
    > enter information on the first workbook (Bookings) it does not automatically
    > update the information onto the other program. I have the Update remote
    > references in Tools checked and also the Automatic option in the Links dialog
    > box is checked. Am I doing something wrong or won't this sort of link
    > automatically update. Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated. Many
    > thanks.


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    Dave Peterson

  6. #6
    KandK
    Guest

    Re: PROBLEM WITH WORKBOOKS IN DIFFERENT WINDOWS

    When I had originally set this up both workbooks opened in the same window
    and it worked great, instantly updating the information as it was entered.
    Unfortunately as I I do need them open in seperate windows and I need for
    them to automatically update, is this possble at all? Thanks for all the help
    I really appreciate it.



  7. #7
    Dave Peterson
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    Re: PROBLEM WITH WORKBOOKS IN DIFFERENT WINDOWS

    If they're in separate instances of excel, I don't think it's possible to have
    automatic updates.

    Have you tried one instance of excel and arranging your windows so that one
    window is on one monitor and the other is on the other monitor?

    (I _think_ I've seen some posts that say that this is possible--but I could be
    wrong.)

    KandK wrote:
    >
    > When I had originally set this up both workbooks opened in the same window
    > and it worked great, instantly updating the information as it was entered.
    > Unfortunately as I I do need them open in seperate windows and I need for
    > them to automatically update, is this possble at all? Thanks for all the help
    > I really appreciate it.


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    Dave Peterson

  8. #8
    KandK
    Guest

    Re: PROBLEM WITH WORKBOOKS IN DIFFERENT WINDOWS

    No I haven't tried that yet, the second monitor is only going to be bought on
    the strength that I can have something viable running. Just out of curiosity
    the second program does not have to be Excel it can be any program that will
    just display relevant information from the first, it should never have any
    information amended on it once it is set up. Are you aware of any program
    that I can use that will give the desired results. Once again many thanks for
    your help.

  9. #9
    Dave Peterson
    Guest

    Re: PROBLEM WITH WORKBOOKS IN DIFFERENT WINDOWS

    I don't have any firsthand knowledge of using multiple monitors.

    Maybe you could start a new thread with a better subject or search google
    looking through the *excel* newsgroups.

    KandK wrote:
    >
    > No I haven't tried that yet, the second monitor is only going to be bought on
    > the strength that I can have something viable running. Just out of curiosity
    > the second program does not have to be Excel it can be any program that will
    > just display relevant information from the first, it should never have any
    > information amended on it once it is set up. Are you aware of any program
    > that I can use that will give the desired results. Once again many thanks for
    > your help.


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    Dave Peterson

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