thanks rorya for the zip, helped me to close chapter 3. just so you know i have the ebook, so don't have access to the CD. trying to find out if sybex still has that with the printed book. be so much easier if i could just copy.

so finished with chapter 4 and 5, moving on to 6 "arrgh" = heavy topic. reading on classes from other excel sites. not for the faint of heart.