I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
You never open a file on a floppy nor should you ever save a file back to a
floppy.
Insert the floppy, save the file to the hard disk, open the file (on the
hard disk), make your changes, save the file (on the hard disk), close the
file, copy the file back to the floppy, move on to the next office.
Alternate solution - get a network and stay in your own office. ;-)
--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
"Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
>
Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however, Floppy
Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off using
one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a floppy
disk and are considerably more reliable.
Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3
"Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
>
Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
"CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
> Floppy
> Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
> failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
> using
> one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
> floppy
> disk and are considerably more reliable.
>
> Vaya con Dios,
> Chuck, CABGx3
>
>
> "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
>> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
>> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
>>
>
>
ditto
--
Don Guillett
SalesAid Software
[email protected]
"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
>
> --
>
> JoAnn Paules
> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
>
>
>
> "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
> > Floppy
> > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
> > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
> > using
> > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
> > floppy
> > disk and are considerably more reliable.
> >
> > Vaya con Dios,
> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >
> >
> > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
> >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
> >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off of
various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I suppose anything
is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a solid state
Jump Drive.
A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3
"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
>
> --
>
> JoAnn Paules
> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
>
>
>
> "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
> > Floppy
> > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
> > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
> > using
> > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
> > floppy
> > disk and are considerably more reliable.
> >
> > Vaya con Dios,
> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >
> >
> > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
> >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
> >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Don.........
Please see my response to JoAnn
Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3
"Don Guillett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:#[email protected]...
> ditto
>
> --
> Don Guillett
> SalesAid Software
> [email protected]
> "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
> >
> > --
> >
> > JoAnn Paules
> > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> >
> >
> >
> > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
> > > Floppy
> > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
> > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
> > > using
> > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
> > > floppy
> > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
> > >
> > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > >
> > >
> > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >
news:[email protected]...
> > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office
to
> > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will
the
> > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're editing the file.
And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots more real estate
available on a harddrive.
When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a new file. If
that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to something like
"backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad
things can happen.
And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the thumb drive is
that you have a backup.
(I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or even laptops.)
CLR wrote:
>
> Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off of
> various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
> problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I suppose anything
> is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
> mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a solid state
> Jump Drive.
>
> A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
>
> Vaya con Dios,
> Chuck, CABGx3
>
> "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
> >
> > --
> >
> > JoAnn Paules
> > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> >
> >
> >
> > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
> > > Floppy
> > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
> > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
> > > using
> > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
> > > floppy
> > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
> > >
> > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > >
> > >
> > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
> > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
> > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
--
Dave Peterson
When excel saves a file, it saves it as a new name first. If that works ok, it
either deletes the original or
renames it to something like "backup of book1.xlk".
And then renames that temporary file to the original file name.
If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad things can happen.
Dave Peterson wrote:
>
> It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're editing the file.
>
> And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots more real estate
> available on a harddrive.
>
> When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a new file. If
> that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to something like
> "backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad
> things can happen.
>
> And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the thumb drive is
> that you have a backup.
>
> (I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or even laptops.)
>
> CLR wrote:
> >
> > Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off of
> > various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
> > problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I suppose anything
> > is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
> > mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a solid state
> > Jump Drive.
> >
> > A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
> >
> > Vaya con Dios,
> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >
> > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > JoAnn Paules
> > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
> > > > Floppy
> > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
> > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
> > > > using
> > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
> > > > floppy
> > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
> > > >
> > > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
> > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
> > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
>
> Dave Peterson
--
Dave Peterson
When excel saves a file, it saves it as a new name first. If that works ok, it
either deletes the original or
renames it to something like "backup of book1.xlk".
And then renames that temporary file to the original file name.
If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad things can happen.
Dave Peterson wrote:
>
> It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're editing the file.
>
> And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots more real estate
> available on a harddrive.
>
> When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a new file. If
> that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to something like
> "backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad
> things can happen.
>
> And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the thumb drive is
> that you have a backup.
>
> (I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or even laptops.)
>
> CLR wrote:
> >
> > Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off of
> > various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
> > problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I suppose anything
> > is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
> > mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a solid state
> > Jump Drive.
> >
> > A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
> >
> > Vaya con Dios,
> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >
> > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > JoAnn Paules
> > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
> > > > Floppy
> > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
> > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
> > > > using
> > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
> > > > floppy
> > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
> > > >
> > > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
> > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
> > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
>
> Dave Peterson
--
Dave Peterson
It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're editing the file.
And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots more real estate
available on a harddrive.
When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a new file. If
that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to something like
"backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad
things can happen.
And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the thumb drive is
that you have a backup.
(I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or even laptops.)
CLR wrote:
>
> Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off of
> various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
> problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I suppose anything
> is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
> mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a solid state
> Jump Drive.
>
> A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
>
> Vaya con Dios,
> Chuck, CABGx3
>
> "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
> >
> > --
> >
> > JoAnn Paules
> > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> >
> >
> >
> > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
> > > Floppy
> > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
> > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
> > > using
> > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
> > > floppy
> > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
> > >
> > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > >
> > >
> > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
> > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
> > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
--
Dave Peterson
Don.........
Please see my response to JoAnn
Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3
"Don Guillett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:#[email protected]...
> ditto
>
> --
> Don Guillett
> SalesAid Software
> [email protected]
> "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
> >
> > --
> >
> > JoAnn Paules
> > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> >
> >
> >
> > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
> > > Floppy
> > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
> > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
> > > using
> > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
> > > floppy
> > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
> > >
> > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > >
> > >
> > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >
news:[email protected]...
> > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office
to
> > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will
the
> > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off of
various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I suppose anything
is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a solid state
Jump Drive.
A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3
"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing it.
>
> --
>
> JoAnn Paules
> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
>
>
>
> "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Technically, what you are wanting to do is possible.........however,
> > Floppy
> > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently subject to
> > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better off
> > using
> > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data than a
> > floppy
> > disk and are considerably more reliable.
> >
> > Vaya con Dios,
> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >
> >
> > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from office to
> >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or will the
> >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Uh-huh, uh-huh, and if a hard drive runs out of space, even more "bader"
things will happen, and that's a "for-sure".........but as with anything
else, the JumpDrive must be used within the parameters that exist for it.
NO memory device operates reliably when pushed past it's limit, Hard Drives
included. The JumpDrive is a very effective way of moving files around from
office to office, especially when the offices are not even with the same
company and are not hooked together with a network.......or the network has
so many "MIS monitoring features" on it the computers will hardly run
anyway. Like I said, I have been doing it with 4 different JumpDrives for
a couple of years and no problems........that's not personal opinion, that's
actual FACT.....and the best part is, NOone has access to those files but
ME. As for losing a JumpDrive, or the keys to your car, .......well, thats
not really a legitimate reason for not using JumpDrives or cars either one.
The OP wanted to know about moving files from computer to computer with a
physical device that he could take with him. I've told him of my actual
experience in doing so, and what I think is the best way to do that.
Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3
"Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> When excel saves a file, it saves it as a new name first. If that works
ok, it
> either deletes the original or
> renames it to something like "backup of book1.xlk".
>
> And then renames that temporary file to the original file name.
>
> If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad things can happen.
>
> Dave Peterson wrote:
> >
> > It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're editing the
file.
> >
> > And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots more real
estate
> > available on a harddrive.
> >
> > When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a new
file. If
> > that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to something
like
> > "backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb drive,
then bad
> > things can happen.
> >
> > And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the thumb
drive is
> > that you have a backup.
> >
> > (I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or even
laptops.)
> >
> > CLR wrote:
> > >
> > > Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off of
> > > various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
> > > problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I suppose
anything
> > > is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
> > > mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a solid
state
> > > Jump Drive.
> > >
> > > A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
> > >
> > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > >
> > > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing
it.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > JoAnn Paules
> > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is
possible.........however,
> > > > > Floppy
> > > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently
subject to
> > > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better
off
> > > > > using
> > > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data
than a
> > > > > floppy
> > > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
> > > > >
> > > > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > >
news:[email protected]...
> > > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from
office to
> > > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or
will the
> > > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Dave Peterson
>
> --
>
> Dave Peterson
I agree with almost everything you wrote.
Except for the pushed to the limit portion.
If have a drive with 5 meg available and open a 4 meg file, I may assume that
when I save it (with no changes even), it'll fit. But that's not the way excel
works. This can cause more heartache than it's worth.
I know the most important file I had at work was saved to my home drive on a
network share, copied to a common network share (twice--once for use and once
for common backup).
I'd save a copy on my harddrive and put a copy on two thumb drives (so I could
create a copy on my harddrive at home, too).
I'm not sure I'd want to keep one copy of anything important--including on a
jump drive.
It was a pain making backups and I don't recall any failure of any type, but I
slept better!
ps. lots of people only had trouble once when they save to floppies, too. But
once is more than enough.
Dave "belt and suspenders" Peterson
CLR wrote:
>
> Uh-huh, uh-huh, and if a hard drive runs out of space, even more "bader"
> things will happen, and that's a "for-sure".........but as with anything
> else, the JumpDrive must be used within the parameters that exist for it.
> NO memory device operates reliably when pushed past it's limit, Hard Drives
> included. The JumpDrive is a very effective way of moving files around from
> office to office, especially when the offices are not even with the same
> company and are not hooked together with a network.......or the network has
> so many "MIS monitoring features" on it the computers will hardly run
> anyway. Like I said, I have been doing it with 4 different JumpDrives for
> a couple of years and no problems........that's not personal opinion, that's
> actual FACT.....and the best part is, NOone has access to those files but
> ME. As for losing a JumpDrive, or the keys to your car, .......well, thats
> not really a legitimate reason for not using JumpDrives or cars either one.
> The OP wanted to know about moving files from computer to computer with a
> physical device that he could take with him. I've told him of my actual
> experience in doing so, and what I think is the best way to do that.
>
> Vaya con Dios,
> Chuck, CABGx3
>
> "Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > When excel saves a file, it saves it as a new name first. If that works
> ok, it
> > either deletes the original or
> > renames it to something like "backup of book1.xlk".
> >
> > And then renames that temporary file to the original file name.
> >
> > If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad things can happen.
> >
> > Dave Peterson wrote:
> > >
> > > It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're editing the
> file.
> > >
> > > And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots more real
> estate
> > > available on a harddrive.
> > >
> > > When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a new
> file. If
> > > that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to something
> like
> > > "backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb drive,
> then bad
> > > things can happen.
> > >
> > > And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the thumb
> drive is
> > > that you have a backup.
> > >
> > > (I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or even
> laptops.)
> > >
> > > CLR wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off of
> > > > various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
> > > > problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I suppose
> anything
> > > > is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
> > > > mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a solid
> state
> > > > Jump Drive.
> > > >
> > > > A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
> > > >
> > > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > > >
> > > > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before changing
> it.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > JoAnn Paules
> > > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is
> possible.........however,
> > > > > > Floppy
> > > > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently
> subject to
> > > > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much better
> off
> > > > > > using
> > > > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data
> than a
> > > > > > floppy
> > > > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > >
> news:[email protected]...
> > > > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from
> office to
> > > > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can or
> will the
> > > > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Dave Peterson
> >
> > --
> >
> > Dave Peterson
--
Dave Peterson
LOLOL...........I hear ya Dave. I would never deny the importance of
backups. The way I use my JumpDrive is to change the name/rev of the file
every time I work on it, so I constantly have current "backups". Then when
I'm done and the program works, I remove the old versions. This technique
has saved my bacon on numerous occasions when "things went wrong".......I
could go back in versions until I found one where that feature still worked
and then compare it to the next version to find the trouble. I learned this
the hard way from working on a sleazy network that failed several times a
day. As for "pushed to the limit", I usually keep about 25% of my jump
drives with a directory of music, so I can drown out the local chatter/noise
wherever I'm working.........when I get close to the limit on that drive, I
just dump the music directory and that gives me plenty of space
left.......then when I have time I can archive and clean up the drive. I
agree, with smaller drives it takes a bit of "management", to keep from
maxing them out considering the way Excel saves files, but JumpDrives sure
are convienient for personal security, and for transferring files from one
computer to another. I also keep my personal.xls there as well as various
Add-ins, and even an Image-editing program that I might need when I go from
location to location.......I really wish I could set up the entire Office
Suite on a JumpDrive, but haven't been able to figure out a way to do that
yet.
Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3
"Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I agree with almost everything you wrote.
>
> Except for the pushed to the limit portion.
>
> If have a drive with 5 meg available and open a 4 meg file, I may assume
that
> when I save it (with no changes even), it'll fit. But that's not the way
excel
> works. This can cause more heartache than it's worth.
>
> I know the most important file I had at work was saved to my home drive on
a
> network share, copied to a common network share (twice--once for use and
once
> for common backup).
>
> I'd save a copy on my harddrive and put a copy on two thumb drives (so I
could
> create a copy on my harddrive at home, too).
>
> I'm not sure I'd want to keep one copy of anything important--including on
a
> jump drive.
>
> It was a pain making backups and I don't recall any failure of any type,
but I
> slept better!
>
> ps. lots of people only had trouble once when they save to floppies, too.
But
> once is more than enough.
>
> Dave "belt and suspenders" Peterson
>
> CLR wrote:
> >
> > Uh-huh, uh-huh, and if a hard drive runs out of space, even more "bader"
> > things will happen, and that's a "for-sure".........but as with anything
> > else, the JumpDrive must be used within the parameters that exist for
it.
> > NO memory device operates reliably when pushed past it's limit, Hard
Drives
> > included. The JumpDrive is a very effective way of moving files around
from
> > office to office, especially when the offices are not even with the same
> > company and are not hooked together with a network.......or the network
has
> > so many "MIS monitoring features" on it the computers will hardly run
> > anyway. Like I said, I have been doing it with 4 different JumpDrives
for
> > a couple of years and no problems........that's not personal opinion,
that's
> > actual FACT.....and the best part is, NOone has access to those files
but
> > ME. As for losing a JumpDrive, or the keys to your car, .......well,
thats
> > not really a legitimate reason for not using JumpDrives or cars either
one.
> > The OP wanted to know about moving files from computer to computer with
a
> > physical device that he could take with him. I've told him of my actual
> > experience in doing so, and what I think is the best way to do that.
> >
> > Vaya con Dios,
> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >
> > "Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > When excel saves a file, it saves it as a new name first. If that
works
> > ok, it
> > > either deletes the original or
> > > renames it to something like "backup of book1.xlk".
> > >
> > > And then renames that temporary file to the original file name.
> > >
> > > If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad things can
happen.
> > >
> > > Dave Peterson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're editing
the
> > file.
> > > >
> > > > And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots more
real
> > estate
> > > > available on a harddrive.
> > > >
> > > > When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a new
> > file. If
> > > > that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to
something
> > like
> > > > "backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb drive,
> > then bad
> > > > things can happen.
> > > >
> > > > And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the thumb
> > drive is
> > > > that you have a backup.
> > > >
> > > > (I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or even
> > laptops.)
> > > >
> > > > CLR wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off
of
> > > > > various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
> > > > > problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I
suppose
> > anything
> > > > > is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
> > > > > mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a
solid
> > state
> > > > > Jump Drive.
> > > > >
> > > > > A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
> > > > >
> > > > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > > > >
> > > > > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before
changing
> > it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JoAnn Paules
> > > > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is
> > possible.........however,
> > > > > > > Floppy
> > > > > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently
> > subject to
> > > > > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much
better
> > off
> > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data
> > than a
> > > > > > > floppy
> > > > > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > > >
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from
> > office to
> > > > > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can
or
> > will the
> > > > > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Dave Peterson
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Dave Peterson
>
> --
>
> Dave Peterson
Thank you all for your comments and advice. I can see what I was trying to
do is a bit risky, so I'll take your advice and go another route. Thanks to
all!!!!!!!!!!!!!Martie
There's nothing wrong with taking a file on a floppy from location to
location. You just need to make sure that when you edit it, it's been copied
to the target computer, not just on your portable media.
(I'll bet you never expected *this* kind of response to what seemed like
such a simple question, did you?)
--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
"Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thank you all for your comments and advice. I can see what I was trying
> to
> do is a bit risky, so I'll take your advice and go another route. Thanks
> to
> all!!!!!!!!!!!!!Martie
>
I really think that the *literal*, verbatim subject line of this thread must
be answered as a *NO*.
You *save* to the HD.
You then *copy* to the floppy (hey!, that rhymes<g>), using Windows
Explorer!
Although for years I've actually calculated and revised WBs *on* a Zip
drive, but I don't consider Zips as a floppy.
And then again, *always* making sure that the Zip capacity was at least
double the size of the WB.
--
Regards,
RD
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"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> There's nothing wrong with taking a file on a floppy from location to
> location. You just need to make sure that when you edit it, it's been
copied
> to the target computer, not just on your portable media.
>
> (I'll bet you never expected *this* kind of response to what seemed like
> such a simple question, did you?)
>
> --
>
> JoAnn Paules
> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
>
>
>
> "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Thank you all for your comments and advice. I can see what I was trying
> > to
> > do is a bit risky, so I'll take your advice and go another route. Thanks
> > to
> > all!!!!!!!!!!!!!Martie
> >
>
>
Since technically it is possible to open an Excel File, from wherever, and
change it, and actually save that changed file to a Floppy Disk...........,
the correct answer to the *literal*, verbatim subject line of this thread is
actually YES!!!
Whether it "should" be done that way or not, is a matter of personal
opinion.
Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3
"Ragdyer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I really think that the *literal*, verbatim subject line of this thread
must
> be answered as a *NO*.
>
> You *save* to the HD.
> You then *copy* to the floppy (hey!, that rhymes<g>), using Windows
> Explorer!
>
> Although for years I've actually calculated and revised WBs *on* a Zip
> drive, but I don't consider Zips as a floppy.
> And then again, *always* making sure that the Zip capacity was at least
> double the size of the WB.
> --
> Regards,
>
> RD
>
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> Please keep all correspondence within the NewsGroup, so all may benefit !
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> "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > There's nothing wrong with taking a file on a floppy from location to
> > location. You just need to make sure that when you edit it, it's been
> copied
> > to the target computer, not just on your portable media.
> >
> > (I'll bet you never expected *this* kind of response to what seemed like
> > such a simple question, did you?)
> >
> > --
> >
> > JoAnn Paules
> > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> >
> >
> >
> > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Thank you all for your comments and advice. I can see what I was
trying
> > > to
> > > do is a bit risky, so I'll take your advice and go another route.
Thanks
> > > to
> > > all!!!!!!!!!!!!!Martie
> > >
> >
> >
>
Shoulda - Woulda - Coulda - You're right - I stand corrected!<g>
--
Regards,
RD
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"CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
> Since technically it is possible to open an Excel File, from wherever, and
> change it, and actually save that changed file to a Floppy
Disk...........,
> the correct answer to the *literal*, verbatim subject line of this thread
is
> actually YES!!!
>
> Whether it "should" be done that way or not, is a matter of personal
> opinion.
>
> Vaya con Dios,
> Chuck, CABGx3
>
>
>
>
> "Ragdyer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I really think that the *literal*, verbatim subject line of this thread
> must
> > be answered as a *NO*.
> >
> > You *save* to the HD.
> > You then *copy* to the floppy (hey!, that rhymes<g>), using Windows
> > Explorer!
> >
> > Although for years I've actually calculated and revised WBs *on* a Zip
> > drive, but I don't consider Zips as a floppy.
> > And then again, *always* making sure that the Zip capacity was at least
> > double the size of the WB.
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > RD
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> > Please keep all correspondence within the NewsGroup, so all may benefit
!
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > There's nothing wrong with taking a file on a floppy from location to
> > > location. You just need to make sure that when you edit it, it's been
> > copied
> > > to the target computer, not just on your portable media.
> > >
> > > (I'll bet you never expected *this* kind of response to what seemed
like
> > > such a simple question, did you?)
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > JoAnn Paules
> > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >
news:[email protected]...
> > > > Thank you all for your comments and advice. I can see what I was
> trying
> > > > to
> > > > do is a bit risky, so I'll take your advice and go another route.
> Thanks
> > > > to
> > > > all!!!!!!!!!!!!!Martie
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
You may want to include a copy of your xlb file, too.
I actually kept my development names as:
nameofworkbook_yyyy_mm_dd.xls
But I'd rename the general copy when I put it in that location.
(I actually kept a giant .zip file of almost all the versions for historical
purposes. You never know when you're gonna have to prove to someone that it
wasn't a program error <vbg>.)
CLR wrote:
>
> LOLOL...........I hear ya Dave. I would never deny the importance of
> backups. The way I use my JumpDrive is to change the name/rev of the file
> every time I work on it, so I constantly have current "backups". Then when
> I'm done and the program works, I remove the old versions. This technique
> has saved my bacon on numerous occasions when "things went wrong".......I
> could go back in versions until I found one where that feature still worked
> and then compare it to the next version to find the trouble. I learned this
> the hard way from working on a sleazy network that failed several times a
> day. As for "pushed to the limit", I usually keep about 25% of my jump
> drives with a directory of music, so I can drown out the local chatter/noise
> wherever I'm working.........when I get close to the limit on that drive, I
> just dump the music directory and that gives me plenty of space
> left.......then when I have time I can archive and clean up the drive. I
> agree, with smaller drives it takes a bit of "management", to keep from
> maxing them out considering the way Excel saves files, but JumpDrives sure
> are convienient for personal security, and for transferring files from one
> computer to another. I also keep my personal.xls there as well as various
> Add-ins, and even an Image-editing program that I might need when I go from
> location to location.......I really wish I could set up the entire Office
> Suite on a JumpDrive, but haven't been able to figure out a way to do that
> yet.
>
> Vaya con Dios,
> Chuck, CABGx3
>
> "Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I agree with almost everything you wrote.
> >
> > Except for the pushed to the limit portion.
> >
> > If have a drive with 5 meg available and open a 4 meg file, I may assume
> that
> > when I save it (with no changes even), it'll fit. But that's not the way
> excel
> > works. This can cause more heartache than it's worth.
> >
> > I know the most important file I had at work was saved to my home drive on
> a
> > network share, copied to a common network share (twice--once for use and
> once
> > for common backup).
> >
> > I'd save a copy on my harddrive and put a copy on two thumb drives (so I
> could
> > create a copy on my harddrive at home, too).
> >
> > I'm not sure I'd want to keep one copy of anything important--including on
> a
> > jump drive.
> >
> > It was a pain making backups and I don't recall any failure of any type,
> but I
> > slept better!
> >
> > ps. lots of people only had trouble once when they save to floppies, too.
> But
> > once is more than enough.
> >
> > Dave "belt and suspenders" Peterson
> >
> > CLR wrote:
> > >
> > > Uh-huh, uh-huh, and if a hard drive runs out of space, even more "bader"
> > > things will happen, and that's a "for-sure".........but as with anything
> > > else, the JumpDrive must be used within the parameters that exist for
> it.
> > > NO memory device operates reliably when pushed past it's limit, Hard
> Drives
> > > included. The JumpDrive is a very effective way of moving files around
> from
> > > office to office, especially when the offices are not even with the same
> > > company and are not hooked together with a network.......or the network
> has
> > > so many "MIS monitoring features" on it the computers will hardly run
> > > anyway. Like I said, I have been doing it with 4 different JumpDrives
> for
> > > a couple of years and no problems........that's not personal opinion,
> that's
> > > actual FACT.....and the best part is, NOone has access to those files
> but
> > > ME. As for losing a JumpDrive, or the keys to your car, .......well,
> thats
> > > not really a legitimate reason for not using JumpDrives or cars either
> one.
> > > The OP wanted to know about moving files from computer to computer with
> a
> > > physical device that he could take with him. I've told him of my actual
> > > experience in doing so, and what I think is the best way to do that.
> > >
> > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > >
> > > "Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > When excel saves a file, it saves it as a new name first. If that
> works
> > > ok, it
> > > > either deletes the original or
> > > > renames it to something like "backup of book1.xlk".
> > > >
> > > > And then renames that temporary file to the original file name.
> > > >
> > > > If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad things can
> happen.
> > > >
> > > > Dave Peterson wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're editing
> the
> > > file.
> > > > >
> > > > > And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots more
> real
> > > estate
> > > > > available on a harddrive.
> > > > >
> > > > > When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a new
> > > file. If
> > > > > that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to
> something
> > > like
> > > > > "backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb drive,
> > > then bad
> > > > > things can happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the thumb
> > > drive is
> > > > > that you have a backup.
> > > > >
> > > > > (I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or even
> > > laptops.)
> > > > >
> > > > > CLR wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working off
> of
> > > > > > various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
> > > > > > problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I
> suppose
> > > anything
> > > > > > is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working off a
> > > > > > mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a
> solid
> > > state
> > > > > > Jump Drive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before
> changing
> > > it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > JoAnn Paules
> > > > > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is
> > > possible.........however,
> > > > > > > > Floppy
> > > > > > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore inherently
> > > subject to
> > > > > > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be much
> better
> > > off
> > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more data
> > > than a
> > > > > > > > floppy
> > > > > > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > > > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > >
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go from
> > > office to
> > > > > > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense can
> or
> > > will the
> > > > > > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the changes?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Peterson
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Dave Peterson
> >
> > --
> >
> > Dave Peterson
--
Dave Peterson
Yeah, good idea, thanks Dave........I never messed with the .xlb file
before........thanks for the suggestion.
I also keep all the old versions as I progress along with a programs design.
I use dates, andRev numbers and letters, anything to make it different and
consecutive. I even save when someone comes up and interrupts me. I've had
several occasions where some change the Client had me make caused some
feature to take a dump, and I just go back to where I have two consecutive
saves, one in which the feature worked and the next in which it don't and
then I can usually find out by looking at them what I did
wrong.........saved my bacon a number of times.........
Vaya con Dios,
Chuck CABGx3
"Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> You may want to include a copy of your xlb file, too.
>
> I actually kept my development names as:
> nameofworkbook_yyyy_mm_dd.xls
>
> But I'd rename the general copy when I put it in that location.
>
> (I actually kept a giant .zip file of almost all the versions for
historical
> purposes. You never know when you're gonna have to prove to someone that
it
> wasn't a program error <vbg>.)
>
>
>
> CLR wrote:
> >
> > LOLOL...........I hear ya Dave. I would never deny the importance of
> > backups. The way I use my JumpDrive is to change the name/rev of the
file
> > every time I work on it, so I constantly have current "backups". Then
when
> > I'm done and the program works, I remove the old versions. This
technique
> > has saved my bacon on numerous occasions when "things went
wrong".......I
> > could go back in versions until I found one where that feature still
worked
> > and then compare it to the next version to find the trouble. I learned
this
> > the hard way from working on a sleazy network that failed several times
a
> > day. As for "pushed to the limit", I usually keep about 25% of my jump
> > drives with a directory of music, so I can drown out the local
chatter/noise
> > wherever I'm working.........when I get close to the limit on that
drive, I
> > just dump the music directory and that gives me plenty of space
> > left.......then when I have time I can archive and clean up the drive.
I
> > agree, with smaller drives it takes a bit of "management", to keep from
> > maxing them out considering the way Excel saves files, but JumpDrives
sure
> > are convienient for personal security, and for transferring files from
one
> > computer to another. I also keep my personal.xls there as well as
various
> > Add-ins, and even an Image-editing program that I might need when I go
from
> > location to location.......I really wish I could set up the entire
Office
> > Suite on a JumpDrive, but haven't been able to figure out a way to do
that
> > yet.
> >
> > Vaya con Dios,
> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >
> > "Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I agree with almost everything you wrote.
> > >
> > > Except for the pushed to the limit portion.
> > >
> > > If have a drive with 5 meg available and open a 4 meg file, I may
assume
> > that
> > > when I save it (with no changes even), it'll fit. But that's not the
way
> > excel
> > > works. This can cause more heartache than it's worth.
> > >
> > > I know the most important file I had at work was saved to my home
drive on
> > a
> > > network share, copied to a common network share (twice--once for use
and
> > once
> > > for common backup).
> > >
> > > I'd save a copy on my harddrive and put a copy on two thumb drives (so
I
> > could
> > > create a copy on my harddrive at home, too).
> > >
> > > I'm not sure I'd want to keep one copy of anything
important--including on
> > a
> > > jump drive.
> > >
> > > It was a pain making backups and I don't recall any failure of any
type,
> > but I
> > > slept better!
> > >
> > > ps. lots of people only had trouble once when they save to floppies,
too.
> > But
> > > once is more than enough.
> > >
> > > Dave "belt and suspenders" Peterson
> > >
> > > CLR wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Uh-huh, uh-huh, and if a hard drive runs out of space, even more
"bader"
> > > > things will happen, and that's a "for-sure".........but as with
anything
> > > > else, the JumpDrive must be used within the parameters that exist
for
> > it.
> > > > NO memory device operates reliably when pushed past it's limit, Hard
> > Drives
> > > > included. The JumpDrive is a very effective way of moving files
around
> > from
> > > > office to office, especially when the offices are not even with the
same
> > > > company and are not hooked together with a network.......or the
network
> > has
> > > > so many "MIS monitoring features" on it the computers will hardly
run
> > > > anyway. Like I said, I have been doing it with 4 different
JumpDrives
> > for
> > > > a couple of years and no problems........that's not personal
opinion,
> > that's
> > > > actual FACT.....and the best part is, NOone has access to those
files
> > but
> > > > ME. As for losing a JumpDrive, or the keys to your car,
........well,
> > thats
> > > > not really a legitimate reason for not using JumpDrives or cars
either
> > one.
> > > > The OP wanted to know about moving files from computer to computer
with
> > a
> > > > physical device that he could take with him. I've told him of my
actual
> > > > experience in doing so, and what I think is the best way to do that.
> > > >
> > > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > When excel saves a file, it saves it as a new name first. If that
> > works
> > > > ok, it
> > > > > either deletes the original or
> > > > > renames it to something like "backup of book1.xlk".
> > > > >
> > > > > And then renames that temporary file to the original file name.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you run out of space on that thumb drive, then bad things can
> > happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Peterson wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's very difficult to remove your harddrive while you're
editing
> > the
> > > > file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And as large as those jump drives are, there is usually lots
more
> > real
> > > > estate
> > > > > > available on a harddrive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When excel saves a file, it renames the original file, creates a
new
> > > > file. If
> > > > > > that works ok, it either deletes the original or renames it to
> > something
> > > > like
> > > > > > "backup of book1.xlk". If you run out of space on that thumb
drive,
> > > > then bad
> > > > > > things can happen.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And a side benefit of saving to a harddrive and copying to the
thumb
> > > > drive is
> > > > > > that you have a backup.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (I bet more thumb drives are just plain lost than desktops or
even
> > > > laptops.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > CLR wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pray tell "Why"?................I have personally been working
off
> > of
> > > > > > > various types of Jump Drives for a couple of years with nary a
> > > > > > > problem............I can understand it with Floppies, and I
> > suppose
> > > > anything
> > > > > > > is possible, but I cannot even begin to concieve how working
off a
> > > > > > > mechanical Hard Drive would be considered more reliable than a
> > solid
> > > > state
> > > > > > > Jump Drive.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A complex technical explanation will suffice.........
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
> > > > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > > > > Even then, the file should be saved to the hard disk before
> > changing
> > > > it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > JoAnn Paules
> > > > > > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > > > > > Technically, what you are wanting to do is
> > > > possible.........however,
> > > > > > > > > Floppy
> > > > > > > > > Disk Drives are mechanical devices and therefore
inherently
> > > > subject to
> > > > > > > > > failure which could result in data loss. You would be
much
> > better
> > > > off
> > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > one of the new pocket "jump" drives, they hold a LOT more
data
> > > > than a
> > > > > > > > > floppy
> > > > > > > > > disk and are considerably more reliable.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Vaya con Dios,
> > > > > > > > > Chuck, CABGx3
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
news:[email protected]...
> > > > > > > > >> I have a monthly expense I set up in excel. I have to go
from
> > > > office to
> > > > > > > > >> office to different computers so if I add in an expense
can
> > or
> > > > will the
> > > > > > > > >> update be saved in the floppy or how can I save the
changes?
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dave Peterson
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Peterson
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Dave Peterson
>
> --
>
> Dave Peterson
No prob RD..........I know how it is with you "younger guys" <VBG>
I also used to work off of ZipDisks too, but switched to JumpDrives because
hardly anyone had ZipDrives where I went......in fact, I've even worked off
of Floppies like the OP asked about, a very very loooooong time ago, in a
land far away.
Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3
"Ragdyer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Shoulda - Woulda - Coulda - You're right - I stand corrected!<g>
> --
> Regards,
>
> RD
>
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> "CLR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Since technically it is possible to open an Excel File, from wherever,
and
> > change it, and actually save that changed file to a Floppy
> Disk...........,
> > the correct answer to the *literal*, verbatim subject line of this
thread
> is
> > actually YES!!!
> >
> > Whether it "should" be done that way or not, is a matter of personal
> > opinion.
> >
> > Vaya con Dios,
> > Chuck, CABGx3
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Ragdyer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I really think that the *literal*, verbatim subject line of this
thread
> > must
> > > be answered as a *NO*.
> > >
> > > You *save* to the HD.
> > > You then *copy* to the floppy (hey!, that rhymes<g>), using Windows
> > > Explorer!
> > >
> > > Although for years I've actually calculated and revised WBs *on* a Zip
> > > drive, but I don't consider Zips as a floppy.
> > > And then again, *always* making sure that the Zip capacity was at
least
> > > double the size of the WB.
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > RD
> > >
> >
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> > > "JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > There's nothing wrong with taking a file on a floppy from location
to
> > > > location. You just need to make sure that when you edit it, it's
been
> > > copied
> > > > to the target computer, not just on your portable media.
> > > >
> > > > (I'll bet you never expected *this* kind of response to what seemed
> like
> > > > such a simple question, did you?)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > JoAnn Paules
> > > > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Martie1949" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > >
> news:[email protected]...
> > > > > Thank you all for your comments and advice. I can see what I was
> > trying
> > > > > to
> > > > > do is a bit risky, so I'll take your advice and go another route.
> > Thanks
> > > > > to
> > > > > all!!!!!!!!!!!!!Martie
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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