I'm not quite sure if this fits in as an Issue, an Improvement or a Water Cooler comment, but when did the forum get updated so that you must be logged in to view code?
I know I never would have found ExcelForum.com if it had not have been for a google search on an obscure piece of code I needed, and I was wondering if there was maybe a downward trend in traffic as the search engine's cache gets depleted or if google was special in some way so that their indexer still has access to the code...
This condition has been in force since a long time. If a non-registered user wants to view the code, he must be logged in to view it. So he will need to register and view the code.
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oh, thank you. I guess I just hadn't noticed since I'm not used to being logged off so often.
But then does google still have access to the code, or do I need to use the forum's search tool to pickup code matches?
I think google should have access to the code, but for you to view it, you will need to login to the forum. That is, when you search in google and it shows you this forum's threads in the search results, you will need to login to the forum to view that code.
I definatly agree, that is what it should do. Do you mind if I post a CODE block in this thread to try and see if google picks it up within the next few weeks?
Yeah sure you can try it.
I'd be amazed if google can see code. It will just see he questions and responses
I know this is not an end all be all test, but it should hopefully at least get which direction the wind is blowing. I propose the following two random phrases which currently have a low hit rate on Google. One inside a CODE block the other outside; now I would assume that the one outside gets picked up faster than the one inside, and moreover if Google doesn’t have visibility to the code then that one shouldn’t be picked up at all (as long as it stays within a code block…).
Outside code phrase: Srxfcz745892
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Hi Gregor
If you were to do a Google Search on "Code-Visibility vs. Traffic" you'll get a hit. If you do a Google Search on " Srxfcz745892" I'll be surprised if you ever get a hit.
Just my guess.
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Oddly enough Google caches all kinds of random things: BK100FS270R, so far I still believe it's more of a matter of when as opposed to if Srxfcz745892 will get cached.
Hi Gregor
Perhaps...I've not tested that...I assume you are. Please report back if you will.
I did plan to keep an eye out over the next few days to see about how long it took, and will post back although someone else may hopefuly beat me to it with a more accurate time. I would assume around a week since we know that "Code-Visibility vs. Traffic" took at least that long; however it may be longer if the re-cache time is longer than the original discovery cahceing.
Google Link: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Srxfcz745892
Last edited by Gregor y; 09-08-2014 at 08:02 PM. Reason: add google link
The outside phrase hits now, inside doesn't.
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Odd I cleared my local machine's internet cache, and I'm still drawing a blank. I wonder if we may be hitting a different Google server...
I too get a hit on Srxfcz745892
I'm picking it up now too, still nothing on the other though.
Although I'm wondering if google may have had help since none of the others I've looked at have picked it up yet... Yahoo, HotBot, Bing, ...
I got both
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Aparently I have the slow version of Google, becuse I'm still not picking up the inside phrase. However Bing is now hitting on the outside phrase.
Last edited by Gregor y; 09-11-2014 at 08:31 PM. Reason: clarify which bing is hitting on.
I'm not picking the inside phrase either. Has anyone else other than xladept got the inside one too?
Not picking for me too..Originally Posted by jewelsharma
May be xladept should upload a screenshot of the google search result I think
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I'm not getting QRVZVc215396 now
well there went that experiment.I'm not gettingnowPlease Login or Register to view this content.
Unless someone's given the google bot login permissions, there's no way they could see the code. Google also take a dim view on showing them content that requires users to be logged in to see, I seem to think that Experts Exchange got "done" for that a while ago.
although since this thread is in the "Sugestions for Improvement" section I guess I do have a sugestion:
Add an additional text field to the database table that stores the code, then run a query that updates said field with an alphabetized version of the code with duplicate words removed (excluding at least comments and strings). Then add to the forum code that will pick up this extra field and build out the keywords meta tags.
That should make the code indexable with out being "visible"...
@ Gegor
Log out of the Forum then do a Google Search on Srxfcz745892. You'll find the hit but, I believe, you'll be asked to log in to see the Code Block.
I know, in my testing, that's what happens.
Just to set the record straight - I think that I googled the one starting with B instead of Q - and I'm sorry for the missstatement
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